Joint decision

[burntheships]

"In November, Colorado voted to legalize the recreational use of marijuana. Currently, only Colorado residents can purchase marijuana in the state. But they may open it up to nonresidents too.

The new state slogan is 'Come for the legal marijuana, stay because you forgot to leave.'" –Jimmy Kimmel

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

That's funny! A great slogan

Oh sure, the cancer rate from radiation is going to skyrocket because of Fukush**ma, it is already, and if the readings are correct they are already 6-8 times above the norm in the U.S. and 3-4 times in Europe.

The lightest radioactive element i can think of is Radium, FB but i will have to jog my memory on the chemistry of it all.

From what i've seen at the chemical factories, they make some very lethal stuff there, most of which ends up in our homes in one form or another.

Plastics were another invention from the 40's so were refrigerants......

And we are worried that if someone smokes some herbs he's going to destroy society?

[Amaterasu]

Cancer rate 1 in 5??

It was already 1 in 3 pre-fukushima...
Some say it's a fifty-fifty deal now.

And lets just consider cancer from fags for a second. Does anyone not think that the connection between cancer and fags would have been made in the early days of medicine, when they were doing all that anatomy work? It's bleeding OBVIOUS if someone dies of lung cancer, particularly if you disassemble the body and take a look, which they have been doing for centuries now.

Cancer from fags I am told is because tobacco has an affiliation for a radioactive element that was released during the early days of nuclear testing. Unfortunately I cannot remember the elements name... I have researched the issue a bit though by reading old medical texts on gutenburg, and it does appear that cancer was really rare pre-1945. Wonder what we did in '45...

FB.

Buried deep in the ATS archives is a thread that points out a few things about tobacco:

1.  It was used as medicine

2.  It had no association with cancer until the 1950's

3.  In 1945 They exploded the Trinity device

4.  5-10 years later, People were seeing skin and lung cancers

5.  The military industrial complex did not want Their tests blamed

6.  The sun did not cause cancer until the 1950's

7.  A campaign was launched to demonize tobacco and the sun as the causes of these cancers

8.  Since then:
       a. Tobacco must be grown with radioactive "fertilizer" (by "law")
       b. Tobacco is often steeped in carcinogens
       c. Fiberglass (!) filters were added

9.  All told, One might think there is a vested interest in keeping a myth alive.

EDIT:

10. No test on pure, organic tobacco has ever linked it to cancer.  Ever.

[Fruitbat]

I'm remembering now why I really enjoyed your posts when I first came here, Amy.

There are some corkers in this thread...

Fb.

[zorgon]

How about the "myth" that weed smokers become giggling Zombies that cannot focus on reality?

The new state slogan is 'Come for the legal marijuana, stay because you forgot to leave.'" –Jimmy Kimmel

AH! My point

[robomont]

Ive only had giggly pot once in the last ten years.seed dealers call it old school.its a cross between colombian and hawaiian.low thc but fun  for all.

I read somewhere that they used asbestos before going to fiberglass.i actually met the guy who invented the filter used these days.its made from cellulose from pine trees.we use to trout fish together.he worked at tennessee eastman as head of the chemistry engineering dept.

[Anthra]

How about the "myth" that weed smokers become giggling Zombies that cannot focus on reality?

That's exactly what it is: A Myth!

While it may be true that weed affects short term memory to some degree, it has been my experience that it tends to improve focus, and enhance reality. I can get more technical work done when I'm stoned than when I'm not; as you remember, I'm a software engineer / architect.

Then again; back in the 70's when we were busy inventing this technology; Silicon Valley "ran" on Coke and Weed. I knew many engineers from Intel who partook...

[robomont]

Google and microsoft dont drugtest.hmm?

[Back]

Hey All

I guess I will give my 2 cents worth on this thread.

When I was younger I was a pot head. I was able to keep a ful time job ect. 18 years ago I took a job that has random drug test so I quit so I could support my family. No with draws ect.

I did not partake for over 10 years after that. I am 1/4th american indian. About 8 years ago a friend that is 3/4 talked to me about rituals in the modern way.

It worked this way. He said make a list of things that are very import thing that is in your life that you want to evaluate.

We planed a day and went into the woods and built a sweat lodge. In the end he did his indian thing and we sweated and smoked a joint and talked. It inabled me to see where I was and where I wanted to go.

So to make this short to this day 2 times a year I build a lodge to evaluate my life situation

Bless
Back

[ArMaP]

ROFL!  The People who are in accidents from drugs other than alcohol is about 1% of the accidents caused by drugs - alcohol is 99% of them.  I don't think THIS is a problem of any great proportion.

Do you have any real data or is this one of those cases where people pick a random number that suites their needs?

[ArMaP]

WHA?  That is why We have DMT in Our system...  That is why We have cannabinoid receptors all ready to go...

The problem is the amount. We also have arsenic in our system, but if we take more than some amount we die.

[ArMaP]

The word, recreational drug(s)  with an "S" on drug has been used here alot.

Where is the line in the sand if there is one. If one goes legal, will they all?  Should they be legal or held back?

Will cocane, smack or LSD be on the store shelf right next to the pot ? Like beer is to whisky.

In Portugal there aren't any legal (besides the ones that can be bought in a pharmacy) drugs, but the use of any drug is not a crime.

[ArMaP]

6.  The sun did not cause cancer until the 1950's

Really? 

[Anthra]

Google and microsoft dont drugtest.hmm?

Last I checked (long ago) Microsoft was not a "drug free workplace", don't know about Google.

But, then again, Microsoft is in Washington State; its legal there.
Google is in Calif. very tolerant, though not legal.

[robomont]

Well then there should be total chaos in the streets of portugal.
Thats what most of our police chiefs say will happen in america if drugs were legal.
It must be so difficult to get anything done in your country with all the zombie drug addicts everywhere.