Startling Footage of a Triangle Craft over the Netherlands

[ArMaP]

You do give me the feeling that since you can't do it or bust it it is worthless. My feeling, not yours.

Now that I understand what it does I'm not interested in doing it.

People should either like it or not like it, see it as it is or move on to other things. You read UT comments, Have I ever been like that? Should I? Should I call people ****'** stupid like they do there on UT. No way would I do that. I am not that kind of a person.

I know (as far as I think I understand your personality) you're not, I was not talking about being negative to people that do not like/understand/don't see the usefulness of it, I was talking about you considering those actions as negative, and, as indicated by the  was more of a joke.

I do think that little snipit was rather rude of you but I consider the source.

Sorry.

You seem to toss out these little spikes in the road when you start to lose your ground as it looks like here on this thread.

No ground lost when we are only presenting opinions, and if if there was, I don't have any problem with admitting that I am wrong, when I see that I am wrong.

Seems that when your answer-less you go on the hunt instead of learning something new.

No hunting, I only hunt for knowledge, and in this case the only new thing was the "card stacking", which was a good idea, as I said, that I wouldn't have thought about.

Then I guess I answered that. An Old member of another site thst helped me prove the UT slander routine.

It looks like you ignored the text I quoted when I wrote that "What kind of experience does she have", maybe I misunderstood you.

You see, that is just a lot of words on a forum. We all need including myself abolute proof it is CGI. Until then all we can do is prod at it and see what the story is. 

Yes, it's just words in a forum, but when I think of making something I always think of the "target audiance", as you did when you presented ways of measuring the video without software tools. If I was making a video to fool people into thinking that it was a real UFO I would try to make something that would follow what most people are expecting, in this case a triangle with lights at each corner.

First of all AfterFX is not a 3D program so some one would have to design a rotating model in say 3d max.

I saw once a video showing how to make birds fly in AfterEffects, and it included changes in perspective, which works as a kind of 3D. In an object as bright as the triangle in the video we don't have real 3D perception, so we cannot see (at least I cannot) if it really rotates in all 3 axis or not.

Bragging about something and doing something are 2 different things. Please come to the table with 100% proof it is CGI and I will listen and learn.

That's why I don't brag about anything, not even about the things I can do.


Apologies to Deuem and everybody else. 

[deuem]

Accepted.

I am really happy you did the card sack, I have never seen that before but I thought it was worth a try. I mean stacking clouds. Regular stacks are panaramas. But this proved very interesting and I am sure we will both do it again. Even if it is for nothing I did learn this card trick for clouds. If the UFO jumped with out the clouds jumpimg it should show foul play and poor motion tracking. So it is an option to keep in our researdh list of How toos'

It looks like you ignored the text I quoted when I wrote that "What kind of experience does she have", maybe I misunderstood you.

I got that part, but what she are you talking abot. The women who took the UFO video we tryed on UT? If it is her, she is just a normal every day person who was outside at night filming the moon with her new camera and spotted a UFO. Sort of like Sky does.At that time she had about 1/2 hour filming time. And had a very hard time posting the video due to the lack of computer experience. That can all be a lie but I trusted her. If there can be internet trust.  If your talking about someone else let me know.

We need more members to tackle the CGI issue with some kind of proof. Got any ideas? What does the Alphabet crew use. They must have some nice toys.

Deuem

[robomont]

Oxygen argon and nitrogen at atmospheric pressure or at half pressure say 7lbs.psi at first shell of the electrons.what would the energy be neede and voltage for say 3 cubic meters.

These are the primary gasses in the atmosphere so they are the ones glowing.if we find the right voltage and frequency then we should be close on the power requirements needed to get an object to fly.
ive been burning through the youtube anti gravity .the two magnets has got me inspired right now .vry enlightening.
Ive also watched some high level physics vids that talks about the frequency.a sort of quantum surface very similar to liquid hydrogen at close to absolute zero.only this happens to the atmosphere and thats what holds the craft in place.

[deuem]

Robo, I just opened a new thread "Nobel gasses and UFOs" this topic can get very deep and it needs its own home. See you there, Recopy your post there if you wish.
Deuem

[Amaterasu]

Thanks for the explanation.

As I have said before, I don't think the clouds are CGI (no need for that), only the triangle.

Yes, ArMaP.  The question is, what caused that swish if not a real craft?  Wind? Did NOT look like that.  It looked like localized interference.  And specifically in response to the movement of the craft.

[deuem]

Amy, is it possble that we are looking at that with trained eyes and it is very difficult to pick up. That cloud is so faint that we are almost looking at pixels movinig, Maybe need to grab so frames out of his 7 sec video and measure it somehow or circle a start middle end frame..Yes I see the swish but I look for those things and think it is not natural and is a re-action. Thinking !

Deuem

[Amaterasu]

Unsure, Deuem.  I can say that the swish is extremely clear to Me.  Hard to imagine Others not seeing it.

[deuem]

Yes, I would expect more answers like , "Yea I see it but I say it ts the wind"  or "they added that in CGI also' ,  something, but we are getting nothing. HUM?


ROBO:  Can you find out if we have any TR-3B Disection threads. If not start one and see if you can find any information on the engines.

Z: Can you locate any more white triangle TR-3B videos to compare.

Area 51: In Roswell some said it was the special radar thet knocked them down. Any info on what power or frequencies they used. One nulled out another deal. That might put a range for the older craft and the new ones stepped up a notch from radar frequncies, maybe another start.

PWM, Can 1 frequncy null another in flight. They do it with ear phones but I am not sure if it needs the sound.

Amy: Is there any way you could grab and circle the 3 frames from ArMaPs vid. start mid and end,

ArMaP: can you research where this video came from and is the origial obtainable from the guy who shot it or did he sell it. Your good at digging, go get them. Did he ever publish anything else, Does he publish a lot of CGI, what is his back ground. Clean or dirty.

Just for this one lets work as a team and see what we can dig up. We have a lot of experts here and more on the fence waiting for an assignment. Please all fence peeps, dig in where you can. Lets go into this one as it is a TR-3B or newer model and see where it brings us. If it is fake and we find real proof then the team did well. If it is real then maybe we can collectly figure out how it works and PWM or FB can model it for a test flight.

Deuem

[ArMaP]

ArMaP: can you research where this video came from and is the origial obtainable from the guy who shot it or did he sell it. Your good at digging, go get them. Did he ever publish anything else, Does he publish a lot of CGI, what is his back ground. Clean or dirty.

I doubt that that YouTube channel will tell me where they got the video, but I'll see what I can do.

[A51Watcher]

Area 51: In Roswell some said it was the special radar thet knocked them down. Any info on what power or frequencies they used. One nulled out another deal. That might put a range for the older craft and the new ones stepped up a notch from radar frequncies, maybe another start.

D, it appears that the new (at the time) SCR-584 monopulse radar is what was used.





Portable models on flatbed trucks and RR cars were used.





I have photos of them camouflaged out in the Utah desert ready for an ambush. 

[deuem]

ArMaP, you are the master digger. The man with the sharp shovel. Go as far as you can, like Zs test. Where does this video bring you. Like was there any news in the papers that day, any one else report it to the police. Dig around the edges.

Area 51. Yea, why would you camo a site in the middle of the desert? Afraid that tumble weeds are going to see it. War Games? Hiding from Russian satalites? Making it difficult for Saucers to see and fly into a trap? All of the above?

Can you fill in the rough edges on this. Post those photos if you can and build a story around it.

I would like all of us to say for this time, "Yes they are real" [tr-3b] and then find where the holes are. Go at it like they do back-engineering. Just do back-researching.

What did the SCR-584 monopulse put out? A blend of frequencies or just a single one, pulsed. If it is single then we need to figure out what would it cancel. Hence we need the Inventors group and PWM type people.

Go team.......By the way this thread is in the "OPEN" section of Peggy and can be read by anyone on the WEB. If you are worried about something, then bring it in under the rug in a closed section.

Deuem.

[A51Watcher]

White Sands Proving Ground, New Mexico 1947


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[deuem]

Yea, It depends on how you read into that photo. They say missiles yet I see him working at the controls. One might think they are set up to see what comes up that valley. A picture has a 1,000 words in it. Which words can you find.

There are wires coming this way on the ground and 2 more antenas a Tee and whip.

Whats the difference between the slave and master radar?

One star means Army?

They planned on being there awile, they took the time and money to add a sidewalk of stepping stones

WSPG, White sands proving ground I guess, New Mexico. Can you locate that site on Google Earth?

A51, Do a real close up of the first dish. It is the only place in the photo that has a glimmer around it. Either meaning these things are running hot or they have been digitaly replaced. What do you think is going on. If heat rising then why nothing else?

Deuem

[The Seeker]

Phillip Corso stated the occcupants of the craft wore headgear that allowed them to operate the craft with their thoughts; also that fiber optics were in use in the craft...

the thought comes to mind that the radar pulse could have interfered with the control signal from the headgear or caused disruption with the fiber optics...


seeker

[deuem]

So if all it did was mess up the control systems they would hit the ground at full speed and not just drop. If that is the case then all they needed to do is a little shielding and they are in the air once more. That is after they figured out what the heck happened! By that time we had them and some crash sites. They would either seek peace or work the bugs out and come back another time when they are ready.

Maybe they under estimated what would happen. Hey the ants on this planet have what, crash! Its like taking the batteries out of a remote control. We're done... It used to be that everything you could do in a remote, you could also do by hand. Now we have a lot more functions on the remote than by hand and I guess they will drop all the reduntant hand controls in the future.

My A/C: I can not turn it on by hand. I would have to leave it on and unplug it. So imagine what time will do for that....

Maybe the Fiber Optics would be safe but anything electrical running at a certain frequency that the radar negated would just stop intantly. 6 little grays just stained their flight suits. Even worse might be if it scrambled the signals and now up is down. Crash!

Seeker do you know anything about the special missiles they said they used to shot several of these down.

Deuem