Are Aliens "On Pause"?

[Eighthman]

A Rethink?  Exactly.  Given the contrast of Utterly Naïve Aliens acting like ignorant tourists in a 3rd world country ( as in Timothy Good's book), it's hard to imagine how a rethink can be avoided.

And a population of sanctioned beings?  Yeah, kinda. But since none of the Doom n' Gloom threats that would eliminate us Unsanctioned Humans ever materialize, I still gotta think they may have a nicer plan in mind...

at least, before they give up completely.  So, we're on Plan B, I think.

[ArMaP]

So, we're on Plan B, I think.

I hope it's better than Plan 9.

[Pimander]

Putting it all together, did the Aliens collectively realize that their visits weren't working and might even be counterproductive?

Well one thing has changed.  It is a connected world so you would think that it is easier to research now.  Could it be all the microwaves from cellular phones and such like?  Is there something about all the human electromagnetic pollution that changes the UFO phenomenon?

[The Seeker]

Well one thing has changed.  It is a connected world so you would think that it is easier to research now.  Could it be all the microwaves from cellular phones and such like?  Is there something about all the human electromagnetic pollution that changes the UFO phenomenon?

Let us consider that many of the reports from abductees state that the visitors are telepathic; is it possible that all the emp does indeed interfere with the control systems and perhaps with their communications mentally?

just pondering...


seeker

[Pimander]

Let us consider that many of the reports from abductees state that the visitors are telepathic; is it possible that all the emp does indeed interfere with the control systems and perhaps with their communications mentally?

Don't forget human consciousness.  We know that EM radiation at certain frequencies effects human consciousness.  If many researchers are correct and at least some of what is reported as contact with other intelligences and UFO sightings are linked to human consciousness then we don't even need to speculate about how it effects so called aliens.

[sky otter]

my two cents..
i think the disconnect is with our systems more than theirs...
(if there even is a theirs.?)
our receptor channels are off line

how hard has it been for you to meditate ..or sometimes even think clearly in certain places?
brain fog seems to be a real problem ..that's just my observation lately

[Eighthman]

If we accept what Pinker says about the history of violence, then most folks in the developed world are doing better than ever.  Scandinavians are a model of social justice and don't wear pointy helmets or hack people to death anymore. So, consciousness-wise, we must be doing better.

Let me throw this out there:  what has always firmly stood in the way, ever since WW2 ?  The governments - and especially the US government.  These are the obstacles and mass visitations might only trigger a false flag sort of 9/11, given that we are ruled by greedy sociopaths.

Plan B might involve some sort of mass de-legitimizing of governments, especially the US.

And coincidentally..........how do things seem to be heading on that score?

[Pimander]

Let me throw this out there:  what has always firmly stood in the way, ever since WW2 ?  The governments - and especially the US government.  These are the obstacles and mass visitations might only trigger a false flag sort of 9/11, given that we are ruled by greedy sociopaths.

Alternatively, the channelled claims that we would get mass landings were not made by beings who come from other planets in the first place.  They are the same "beings" who:-

1.  Tell a religious person that Jesus  will soon return or claim to be an angel or similar.

2.  Tell a Spiritualist they are your dead aunt.

3.  Tell an Occultist they are an ascended master or an Egyptian priest/God.

4.  Tell a New Ager they are a 5th dimensional Plaiadian.

5.  Tell a Native American they are a spirit animal

You get the idea.  Is it not clear that the phenomenon adapts itself to the consciousness of the recipient.  And don't even start me off on the examples that are from a very human source.

[Eighthman]

That's Jacques Vallee stuff and it's a big part of the puzzle.  Masters of Deception and so on.
I've wondered if many of these cases involve some sort of false memory being triggered.

The current opinion on New Age sites seems to be More Sightings But No Visitations (even as I read just this morning on American Kabuki)

However, the record of the USAF in particular is clear.  Deny, deny....   Human governments remain the obstacle. The peak of willing Disclosure (I think) was the COMETA report in France  - representing officials opinion but technically unofficial as a whole.

Religions would mostly be an obstacle as well but their influence is limited.  The Vatican seems oddly OK with it.

[Eighthman]

A further part of the puzzle is why Aliens seemed so willing to visit humans openly in ancient cultures but not now (??).

I think the "Government As (potential blue beam) Obstacle" idea explains the Ancient Alien paradox pretty well.  In the past, with ancient religions dominating, it's perfectly OK to show up as Dogon or Quetzalcoatl or Some Other Agent Of Culture.  The Gods have favored us.....

At the same time, take a hard look at the Hebrew interpretation of this: Genesis 6 and the book of Enoch. These helpful aliens were seen as nasty demons, rebellious angels.

So, this takes us into the 21st century in which Hollywood is eager to see them as invaders and the governments are likely willing to encourage such a notion to maintain their power.

[Pimander]

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A further part of the puzzle is why Aliens seemed so willing to visit humans openly in ancient cultures but not now (??).

*snip*

These helpful aliens were seen as nasty demons, rebellious angels.

What if the ancients were right and you're wrong?  These "beings" could be misinterpreted as aliens or both cultures could be wrong.

Philip Coppens is worth a read.

This, and other "UFO incidents", did not evolve around whether or not UFOs were alien spacecraft, or, whether or not, ET crashed in Roswell and the Air Force put his tiny, grey body on ice. The UFO psychological warfare was a display by a small group of people, who pretended to have a big secret; a big secret they pretended to have the power to shield from the public as a whole, and the President and his entourage in specific. It was a mechanism whereby even the President was led to believe there were men somewhere in his government whom he had to fear tremendously. The latter was true - but not because they were in possession of alien beings. In truth, it was - and is - nothing more than an exercise in power, in which a myth was created, then promoted, then apparently covered-up, even though each cover-up was a confirmation of the existence of the myth, so that we would believe. In truth, it was an empty secret...

http://www.philipcoppens.com/ufo_overlords.html

The real phenomenon has been blurred by these strange activities to the point where we have discussions about political motives of extraterrestrials who are no such thing.

[Eighthman]

What then is the 'phenomena' at its most basic?  Coppens would say that all of it is false - no crashes, no Roswell, no bodies, no visitations, nothing to see here, folks.

Is the claim of the military-industrial complex having such Alien tech completely false? Or partly true? Are we then seeing a 'pause' because the deception no longer suits them?

And in similar fashion, did the Soviets and others engage in the deceptions in their own homelands, for the same reasons?

[deuem]

[snip]
Is the claim of the military-industrial complex having such Alien tech completely false? Or partly true? Are we then seeing a 'pause' because the deception no longer suits them?

[snip]

At the moment this makes the most sence. It even makes sence if there were never any aliens and all of it was a cover up to hide z-guberment skunk work projects. In the early days they must have been making a lot of mistakes that they have no ironed out and are flying very high now. Minimum 100,000 feet then out to space.

Maybe if there are still aliens around they are dealing with them out in space or on the Moon. The CGI people are doing there best to fill in the missing gaps. I would not under-estimate the power of trillions of dollars spent and what that can really do.

It would take a major crash in a city to bring one of these to the light of day.

When the USA made a law that said they could test weapons on their own people then anything became possible. They do what they want where and when they want. The only reason why any of this is getting out is because it would cause a panic of the people if they were hit cold with it say 50 years from now. The future will tell us, no one else.

Deuem

[robomont]

I think they were afraid to admit that the russians had saucers .so they just said they were aliens to keep us distracted from the truth.roswell may be real though.xfiles did an episode where they hinted that grays were created by jap scientist.its hard to belive that we didnt seize any tech from japan but did seize piles from germany.

[ArMaP]

its hard to belive that we didnt seize any tech from japan but did seize piles from germany.

The problem with Japan is that they were very limited on resources (at the end of the war they had many ships and aeroplanes stopped for lack of fuel), so most things were little more than ideas, so it's hard to know what those ideas may have turned into.