Secret Structures on the Moon

[A51Watcher]

Can I get a happy meal and a couple 70mm to go? 

[deuem]

Sarge, hope You feel better soon.

That is My biggest clue...  When repeated efforts to make contact go unanswered.

Amy, that is not a very good clue, maybe they just don't want to talk to you. Have you ever recieved an answer from Obumma? These people could care less who you/we are. If they did they would seek you/us out. Don't feel bad, just feel Rejected...

A person like Greer must get thousands of people knocking on his door. I would look for better clues....

Deuem

[zorgon]

Hey Z, Where are all those tapes now and how can we see them?

Well that is a long story.... I know where we can get them but the ones we saw didn't get much better quality that we already had from the USGS and ASU scans.

Can we access the whole lot? Don't know  We stopped following up on that a few years ago. I can contact the team... and I can bug Dr X ( the guy from JPL that had them all those years in his garage) and get him over here if he is still kicking)  He was at Kwajalien the same time as Jack was

Are you going to tell me they are out front? or hiding in the peggy basement waiting for someone to transfer them to video 70mm is nice film stock. Like Imax.

Not 70MM film   70MM Ampex recording tape.  See that Ampex machine in the McDonald's pirate photo? It is the ONLY one in existance that is working and they needed a lot to get it repaired.

So are they movies or photos?

Lunar orbiters took the photo on the space craft and processed the 70MM film on board.  Then scanned the strip and sent signals to Earth. The original negatives were deliberately crashed on the moon

[zorgon]

I would look for better clues....

Like easily verifiable data that shows him to be a liar?



It sucks... because I was all gungho when the Disclosure Project first came out....  I even posted a page for Karl Wolf until I caught that date...  You can still see my AWW CRAP moment at ATS

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

What about www.moonviews.com?

[zorgon]

Can I get a happy meal and a couple 70mm to go? 

When all was said and done with that McMoon thread (Dennis Wingo REALLY freaked out when we tracked his actual location so fast), one of the team members wrote me and said "Look... no hard feelings, we all want the same thing here. If you let that thread die, we will make it worth your while"

Well the thread was almost done anyway as there was no new info... so we let it die.

That letter was cc'd with one other name that wasn't in previous group letters.  I filed that name away, and the NASA email address that came with it... but then we never followed up on it because  people lost interest and I got busy on other topics

And mostly... I didn't know what to ask.... and didn't want to waste the opportunity.  Then tempis fugit and I never followed up


That name was John Phillips  read his biography here CAREFULLY and then ask why was he involved in these missing lunar orbiter tapes?

http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/phillips.html

[zorgon]

Lunar Orbiter Image Recovery Project (LOIRP) Status 27 November 2013.
By Keith Cowing and Dennis Wingo

Dennis WIngo: Status, end of day, December 2, 2013.

Today has been a marathon tape day. We started with M5-126 and made it al l the way through M5-150! Lots of not neededs and few frame let captures but we are now to the final day of image capture (from the ground station's perspective) and we will complete through M5-158 tomorrow, good lord willing and the creek don't rise as the old saying goes.

Will do the final listing after I finish the tapes tomorrow.

We will then go back and see what we have missed. I know of a couple of images that we mistakenly did not capture from Woomera. However, it is highly likely that by CoB Wednesday, we will have finished the Lunar Orbiter V captures. This mission had by far the most tapes and images. There are many really cool images that are NOT on the LPI website or the USGS. We look forward to providing these to the lunar science community...

http://www.moonviews.com/

Moonviews: Archives

http://www.moonviews.com/archives.html

So... to answer your question...

WORK IN PROGRESS

[zorgon]

What about www.moonviews.com?

LOL you posted while I was typing   Yeah Moonviews

That info is in the original McMoon Thread  one of our best threads ever

I will write Dr X right now and see if he is still around

Problem is Wingo et al cannot be trusted to show us ALL the images especially if they do show something that shouldn't be there. And with that Navy Astronaut involved... well crap... I think that is why we stopped following it... figured there was no way we would ever see any good stuff

Though Dr X had the tapes all these years, seems he was kicked off the team

[deuem]

Ok, Z, you said tapes not film stock. I presume it is then something like a VCR tape with just data and needs to be processed. Ok, But why are there a hundred canisters on the floor, Copies? or is each one an original.

Standard VCR tape is 1/2 inch. Broadcast cameras start at 3/4 inch and the real good ones are 1 inch. But, 1 inch is only 25mm. So 70mm must have 3 times the info. Like HD would have compared to an 8mm film. If all the films are different then the camera must have been a video camera on a loop otherwise the craft would need to carry a lot of film and do a change over in flight. Any idea, is it 100 copies or 100 tapes?

As far as the crash. That is NASA at its best, Dumping garbage all over the universe. No wonder the Moon Aliens told them to stay off the lawn.

Deuem

[Amaterasu]

Amy, that is not a very good clue, maybe they just don't want to talk to you. Have you ever recieved an answer from Obumma? These people could care less who you/we are. If they did they would seek you/us out. Don't feel bad, just feel Rejected...

A person like Greer must get thousands of people knocking on his door. I would look for better clues....

Deuem

No, but I got a response from Karen Hudes...  [shrug]

[zorgon]

Ok, Z, you said tapes not film stock. I presume it is then something like a VCR tape with just data and needs to be processed. Ok, But why are there a hundred canisters on the floor, Copies? or is each one an original.

Each one is an original  There were 5 Lunar Orbiters that were shooting for weeks Mapped most of the surface in high resolution
But the old Ampex system was scrapped. They found that machine in a garage that was used as a chicken coup   It was in rough shape.  His seeking parts for it was how we tracked him to where that McD's was located

Any idea, is it 100 copies or 100 tapes?

Several hundred tapes.... had the exact count on that thread (which you could read   I removed all the BS posts from ATS when we copied it here)

As far as the crash. That is NASA at its best, Dumping garbage all over the universe. No wonder the Moon Aliens told them to stay off the lawn.

yes I made posts on the website  NASA: Cosmic Literbugs.  I figure it was there way to cover up any real debris from Aliens 

[zorgon]

Comparison of the old and the restored version of a famous photo from Lunar Orbiter

[zorgon]

One of the two Ampex FR-900 instrumentation tape drives located at the facilities of the Lunar Orbiter Image Recovery Project (LOIRP) at NASA Ames Research Center. This tape drive is used to recover images of the moon that were sent from the Lunar Orbiter probes, and recorded to tape using an FR-900 like the one pictured.
Date   5 August 2011

[deuem]

No, but I got a response from Karen Hudes...  [shrug]

Karen the whistle blower?  Ok what did she tell you? Don't bother me again or I want to be part of your team? Do you have her home telephone number? Get together for Skype chats?  I don't see her here as an active member? Ok, I will stop being silly..

What I am saying is that contacting someone and really being in contact are different. With Greer it would be his post I would respond to and he respond back. Still waiting. Also waiting for Bob Lazar to show up and he has been contacted and a friend of Johns.

[zorgon]

Good summary here;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOIRP

I just wrote Dr X  Seems he did try to log in here in Nov 2012... but got lost in the forum mess and was using the old forum to get in