Possible "Holy Grail Proof" of NASA Et Al Photo Tampering

Started by rdunk, December 12, 2013, 04:14:15 AM

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ArMaP


Pimander

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I can't find the large thread that exists on this on the ATS site.  I do remember it.

rdunk, I can see why people think the formation has a statue in it.  It could obviously be a joke but it may also be naturally occurring simulacra.

Quotesimulacrum
noun [C]     /?s?m.j??le?.kr?m/ (plural simulacrums or simulacra) formal
› something that looks like or represents something else
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/simulacrum

Fence posts really do interest me if they are visible in pictures taken on more than one occasion. A fence post like object to me is less likely than rocks that look like a statue but that is only my opinion.  I am poor at image identification based on RAF tests but supposedly very good at analysis of data and quick decision making (think fighter controller or intelligence analyst).  For image analysis I am not the best person even though I find it fascinating.

I don't think there are steps there.  The surrounding rocks have evenly spaced beds just like that.  They could be cut out using the evenly spaced bedding of the rocks for a joke or be naturally cut out of the rock by wind erosion.

It does look amazingly similar to the type of geology found at Giza.  Make of that what you will. :)

I remain open minded about the possibility of buildings elsewhere in the solar system but have not seen proof.

deuem

All I see is a little Deuem bunny,

Deuem

eta: ps, that bunny is in the original, I did not add it, just colored it

rdunk

Quote from: the seeker on January 11, 2014, 11:52:53 AM
OK, what about the fence post on top of the bluff, slightly to the left of the statue? it is casting a distinct shadow...

seeker

Hey seeker! There is a lot to see on this cape, but it is hard to see it all! :)  After your question, I have gone back and looked for the "fence post" you are seeing, but I haven't found it yet.  I will keep looking.

What do you think about the photo differences noted in the OP and comments following - photo tampering or not?

The Seeker

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rdunk, look at the photo Z posted with the measure scale on it on it; at the top left of the scale you will see this one post sticking up, it is curved to the left and then upwards again; it is also casting a shadow

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars5/Egypt/Height.png

look directly above the F in the top 10FT marker...


seeker
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rdunk

Quote from: Pimander on January 11, 2014, 01:34:19 PM


rdunk, I can see why people think the formation has a statue in it.  It could obviously be a joke but it may also be naturally occurring simulacra.
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/simulacrum


I don't think there are steps there.  The surrounding rocks have evenly spaced beds just like that.  They could be cut out using the evenly spaced bedding of the rocks for a joke or be naturally cut out of the rock by wind erosion.

It does look amazingly similar to the type of geology found at Giza.  Make of that what you will. :)

I remain open minded about the possibility of buildings elsewhere in the solar system but have not seen proof.

Pimander, actually, as said earlier, there are two statues - one the Egyptian, and the other can be see on the ridge pretty much directly above the Egyptian. The 2nd is a little weird looking, but obviously not just "a jumble of rocks".

Regarding the "steps", yes, they are a little hard to see. But, with everything just right (screen resolution, photo magnification, screen brightness, and maybe a hand magnifier), one can see the side edges of two or three white steps at the top of the stairway, directly above the Egyptian statue, and at least one step, maybe two, at the bottom, below the Egyptian statue. Now to see these steps, you do need to be using the untampered photo, Sol day 1105, because the steps have been "tampered out" in the later photos!!!!

Pi, re: your having not seen any convincing buildings on Mars: one of these days.............I will post details of a community/very small city I have found on Mars, that does have "buildings". The photos of this community seem to have serious tampering too, but enough is left to see very obvious evidence of humanoid existence, with small buildings. :) 

ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on January 10, 2014, 11:55:04 PM
And before ArMaP jumps in about COLOR :P here is the coresponding color wheel for the day

There's no such photo on Sol 1167.  ???

ArMaP

Quote from: the seeker on January 11, 2014, 05:15:00 PM
rdunk, look at the photo Z posted with the measure scale on it on it; at the top left of the scale you will see this one post sticking up, it is curved to the left and then upwards again; it is also casting a shadow

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars5/Egypt/Height.png

look directly above the F in the top 10FT marker...


seeker
That's a "break" (I cannot think of other word) in the cape, separating that V-shaped area from the rest, not an object.

The Seeker

Quote from: ArMaP on January 11, 2014, 05:32:24 PM
That's a "break" (I cannot think of other word) in the cape, separating that V-shaped area from the rest, not an object.
Armap, I am going to disagree with you, for it is a vertical object and casts a perpendicular shadow to the left... just my opinion, of course  :D

perhaps it is a trick of light and shadow, but I think not...


seeker
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ArMaP

Quote from: the seeker on January 11, 2014, 05:37:20 PM
Armap, I am going to disagree with you, for it is a vertical object and casts a perpendicular shadow to the left... just my opinion, of course  :D

perhaps it is a trick of light and shadow, but I think not...


seeker
Look at the other shadows, then look at photos from other Sols, at different times and with different shadows, and you will see that what you call a "shadow" remains in the same position.

rdunk

Quote from: the seeker on January 11, 2014, 05:15:00 PM
rdunk, look at the photo Z posted with the measure scale on it on it; at the top left of the scale you will see this one post sticking up, it is curved to the left and then upwards again; it is also casting a shadow

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars5/Egypt/Height.png

look directly above the F in the top 10FT marker...


seeker

Thanks seeker, I can see the "fence post" you are referring to now. But, there is a bit of a problem with that - we are seeing this "fence post" in a photo of one of the latter sol day tampered shots. When I look for this post in the untampered photo sol day 1105, so far, I don't see it. The earlier photo is a little darker, but also in the earlier photo, there is a lot more stuff on the upper nose of this cape, including a slope, that is not there in the tampered photo. So, I  don't know if the "post looking feature" is actually there or not??

rdunk

Quote from: ArMaP on January 11, 2014, 05:39:22 PM
Look at the other shadows, then look at photos from other Sols, at different times and with different shadows, and you will see that what you call a "shadow" remains in the same position.

ArMaP, I believe the "post" seeker is referring to, is not connected with the "V" rock. Rather it is a little farther to the right of the "V". on top of the cliff nose. At least that is where I see it, along with its shadow on the tampered photo. :)

ArMaP

Quote from: rdunk on January 11, 2014, 05:46:54 PM
ArMaP, I believe the "post" seeker is referring to, is not connected with the "V" rock. Rather it is a little farther to the right of the "V". on top of the cliff nose. At least that is where I see it, along with its shadow on the tampered photo. :)
That's why I was making this image: :)



Is this the "post"?

rdunk

No, it is directly above and a little right of the point of your arrow - see the black shadow. Yes, as you said earlier, the V is a "break" in the rocks.