Chang'e 3 - China Rover Separates From Lander, Now On Moon's Surface

[stealthyaroura]

EXACTLY Deuem its a work in progress.
seems we're the only group trying to get to the bottom of this mess.

go team peggy!

[A51Watcher]

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4 green lights in the sky?


http://www.abqjournal.com/321072/news/china-hails-success-of-first-lunar-mission.html

[sky otter]

A51
i count 7 green lights
and they go to sqaure shapes when i enlarge them..like the satelites i get sometimes

[undo11]

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4 green lights in the sky?


http://www.abqjournal.com/321072/news/china-hails-success-of-first-lunar-mission.html

those are rocks. hehehe

couldn't resist.

[ArMaP]

When I wrote "I Don't  care where they came from" I was being sarcastic.

Sorry, I didn't understand it that way.

Maybe it will go to sleep now and stay that way just to save face. That way they can say they were there and it will drop off the news 100% in a week or so.

Maybe, I have thought about that.

Remember we were promised all the moon photos! Where are they. We got a map. Where are the photos? Thousands of them. Where are the thousands of 10 per second lander/rover photos?

Where are the photos from the previous Moon mission? They were promised to the Chinese people, so people in China should be able to find them.

They are hurting their own credibility not us.

Yes, but what I was saying is that we are hurting our own credibility if we post "artistic renderings" as if they were real photos.

I posted 2 processed photos from the best sources I could get and the photos are tampered with.

I thought both were from the same photo, if they are then you should know that you shouldn't expect much from a highly contrasted image.

[Flux]

Lets play where's Waldo

There is also a faint horizontal line and vertical line which is approx 90degs from the horizontal.

[deuem]

Yes, but what I was saying is that we are hurting our own credibility if we post "artistic renderings" as if they were real photos.

At this point in time I'm not quite sure if every photo meets that criteria. With the true Artistic photos, you will have to ask the person who posted them.

I thought both were from the same photo, if they are then you should know that you shouldn't expect much from a highly contrasted image.

No, One was the lander and the other the rover. Sorry to ask but can't you see the difference between the two? One is big and on legs, the other is small and has wheels. I am on a little bit of sticky ground here ArMaP. I might get cut off if I go too far. I don't know. All I want to see is a good data base for us to look at and know where and when they are from. Hopefully it will be from the local space agency files.

Flux: what print?

Today we processed the Garden tractor print and it has 5 levels of colors. layers, walls. One of the layers an overlay of translucent garbage to block the view. There seems to be so many things wrong with the prints so far I don't know where to start. I would love to process some good prints. Then we can party.

Deuem

[deuem]

After a little bit of digging I found this statement again on the Chinese Space web site.

As a photo appeared on a big monitoring screen at the Beijing Aerospace Control Center (BACC), senior state leaders and dozens of center staff clapped hands in cheers.

This is making me think that not one of the photos we are looking at are the space ships photos but the news people taking photos of the big screen. The large plasma screens are really nice to see. One of my friends screen is almost 4 feet long and you can almost step into it. If the photos we have are all news re-shots of this screen it would explain every thing so far, Even the different colors.

Certain lights in the hall will give you the green Yellow and others will be true white. The 4 to 7 green floating balls could be all news crews using Video cameras with on lights in the front of then reflecting on the plasma screen. The fact I can not pick up stars or that the sun light is null would also be solved by this re-shot. If I process a picture of a picture it removes all the fine details.

So it is quite possible that we have never yet seen an official real photo yet. Why is the new question. This makes it impossible to do any real detective work. Every thing is wrong to begin with. So if this is the only way we will ever get to see the shots, the quality can be blammed on the TV re-shoot. Very smart move if true.

So far I can not find any data base of even 1 print. All the prints must be grabbed off a news site. These photos look like re-shoots.
I feel stuck in the mud now. And most of all, there is no local news and nothing being taught in any of the schools or parties in the streets. Almost like it was an everyday occurance and nothing of interest.


Deuem

[ArMaP]

At this point in time I'm not quite sure if every photo meets that criteria. With the true Artistic photos, you will have to ask the person who posted them.

That's the problem, as some of the images are posted here without any comments and the one I am sure is an "artist version" the person that posted it never answered my question.
 

No, One was the lander and the other the rover. Sorry to ask but can't you see the difference between the two?

I don't know how I did it, but for some reason I only saw the top part of the second image. Sorry for the confusion. 

One of the layers an overlay of translucent garbage to block the view.

How can you know that?

[ArMaP]

This is making me think that not one of the photos we are looking at are the space ships photos but the news people taking photos of the big screen.

I agree, that would explain all the differences and more.

[08rubicon]

  The best way I have found to get information, is to ask a dumb
question. The information on this site is the best I have found, even
though I sometimes find that I am very wrong in my judgement.
I want to thank everyone for all the images and information. I first
became interrested in the moon and mars from J.P.Skipper, who
had a good web site.I am critical of all videos,and images from the
news outlets, as I feel they are controling our thinking on all subjects,
for they own benefit. I am a conspiricy nut. Thanks again
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[WhatTheHey]

Howdy, I was checking out the pictures in this thread and I have not seen anyone mention the depressions that seem to be equally spaced and very much alike. You can see them in the picture in this post http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5839.msg81775#msg81775 by A51watcher when you click to enlarge. They are along the left side of the picture and go a ways off looking out under the panel. There does not look to be any tracks accompanying them either. There is a series of them, 3 maybe 4. and they look as though they are old. (Almost looks like something was walking lol)

Cool stuff
whatthehey

[deuem]

Whatthehey: I presume thee are the steps you're talking about.
Deuem

[WhatTheHey]

 Yup that's the ones. Do you know what they are. I just noticed them and thought they were a bit strange.

[08rubicon]

  I have a question. We do not know the sensor type used in chang'e 3
cameras, ccd or cmos. The light is transfered digitally pixel by pixel,
line by line in cmos,sent to a transmiter, picked up by a receiver, fed
into a computer. It is then reconstructed as an image. Is it possible
to alter the final image if the transmision does not meet pre-programed
computer instructions ? Can the image be generated in a computer
program without a camera ? Sorry if this question is too basic . I seem
to be knowledge handicaped.
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