Chang'e 3 - China Rover Separates From Lander, Now On Moon's Surface

Started by rdunk, December 15, 2013, 06:21:12 PM

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zorgon

Zorgon seeks help making TWO DOTS on this photo :D

Yellow Dot #1 The Chinese Wabbit

Blue Dot #2 Apollo 15 Site

Please be as accurate as possible :D

Much obliged


deuem

This is not exactly what you asked for but it is a close as I can get today. I'm sure this is a loaded question. But with the data I have have this should be the location, All cords are on the print with a distance of 488 miles. It also places the rabbit in the middle of the alantic Ocean on Earth with 15 in Africa.

Deuem

zorgon


deuem

Quote from: zorgon on January 01, 2014, 11:18:00 AM
No not a loaded question :D

Ok then did I win a stuffed Jade Wabbit at least? The moon is so clutered with junk in that area if One stakes claims they will overlap each other. Besides, It's my moon! Deuem was there first and I claimed the entire place. Can't you see my flag. Oh thats right NASA blurred it out, Sorry.

Deuem

ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on January 01, 2014, 02:27:49 AM
Says who?
Apparently, Public Law 112-55 Sec. 539.

QuoteSec. 539. <<NOTE: China.>> (a) None of the funds made available by this Act may be used for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) or the Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP) to develop, design, plan, promulgate, implement, or execute a bilateral policy, program, order, or contract of any kind to participate, collaborate, or coordinate bilaterally in any way with China or any Chinese-owned company unless such activities are specifically authorized by a law enacted after the date of enactment of this Act.

Source

And your photo is from 2006. :)

ArMaP

Quote from: 08rubicon on January 01, 2014, 02:13:16 AM
deuem-armap
   go to www.lroc.asu.edu   lroc images  scrole down and click on act-react
quick map. At maximum resolution at  lat.44.1147  lon. -19.5153 you will
find the exact crater layout as in the landing video..IT IS THERE..
   rubicon
That's what I have been using. :)

I was trying to something with the video but I found out that the new version of Avidemux is missing some plugins/filters. :(

ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on January 01, 2014, 02:35:32 AM
Zorgon seeks help making TWO DOTS on this photo :D
That's not a photo.  :P

QuoteYellow Dot #1 The Chinese Wabbit

Blue Dot #2 Apollo 15 Site

Here's my attempt. :)




rdunk

Chang'e-3 satellite payload APXS obtained its first spectrum of lunar regolith (mantle rock)

The Active Particle-induced X-ray Spectrometer (APXS), carried by the Yutu rover of the Chang'e-3 satellite got its first X-ray fluorescence spectrum of lunar regolith around the landing site on December 25, 2013.

An initial analysis indicates that eight major rock-forming elements (Mg, Al, Si, K, Ca, Ti, Cr and Fe) and at least 3 minor elements (Sr, Y and Zr) of the Moon can be identified in this spectrum.  ................................more

http://www.moondaily.com/reports/Change_3_satellite_payload_APXS_obtained_its_first_spectrum_of_lunar_regolith_999.html

deuem

On my Wabbit location the chines space agency had a film running on one of their screens with the location and I grabbed it. Worked it around and located the pair. I wanted to see if it matched what everyone else was getting. it was only on the screen for a couple of frames but one frame is all I ever need.  8)  Bond, Deuem Bond  ???

ArMaP

Quote from: deuem on December 31, 2013, 06:32:46 PM
ArMap, What I was thinking would be from the landing footage from orbit to the moon. Begining at the 100 meter hover they should match with the LRO photo. That would be the best. We can do an overlay. We should be able to line up every crater.

As the lander was moving and horizontally and vertically I couldn't find a way of showing the smaller craters at the end and the bigger ones at the beginning of the video, so I used several images from the ASU's quick map.

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Now the panorama with the craters identified as in image 10.



Finally, the image published by the ASU, with the same labels as image 10.



Sorry for the delay, I hope this (or similar) is what you wanted to see. :)

rdunk

So, does the above "pin-pointing" of the locations on the lunar surface mean some of you are now accepting the fact that China's Rover is actually on the Moon?? Or, are you making some other point?? :)

Just wondering whether we ought to get serious about China's achievement, and about what China is accomplishing with this little moon shot?!

deuem

276 gold to 277 for Sir ArMaP

Really nice job there ArMaP. could not have done better myself.

Rdunk, this is the type of research we would love for you to do also. Dig in deeper and put things together. We have a solid location, a 4000 frame lander vid and a LRO spoting photo. See if they match up. ArMaP understood my question and did the matching even further back than I thought he would. If you remember, I was going to try from the 100 meter hover to the ground against the LRO and he went well beyond that mark.

What I think you might want to do is to try and match up at least one frame from a hover frame to the LRO frame and answer your own question. Once I figured out that all the photos were of TV frames it put the question on hold of fake or real until more info was given to us.

See what you can do with a test and let us know. I would like to see another shot at it to see if you find anything different. OK? You can even rotate or overlay photos or do inserts to show your findings.

Deuem

rdunk

My question was for you guys who seem to have thought it possibly unreal. I am satisfied that China et al is wise enough to not chance the extreme embarrassment that would result from being caught, as they surely would have been, if they tried to "fake" a moon landing mission.

Elvis Hendrix

Excellent Armap. Gfy. I'm still frustrated at the lack of images from the rabbit . Time will tell.
"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration – that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
B H.

zorgon

Quote from: rdunk on January 05, 2014, 11:25:58 PM
So, does the above "pin-pointing" of the locations on the lunar surface mean some of you are now accepting the fact that China's Rover is actually on the Moon?? Or, are you making some other point?? :)

Just wondering whether we ought to get serious about China's achievement, and about what China is accomplishing with this little moon shot?!

Some other point, yes :D