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burntheships

#225
Quote from: Amaterasu on February 06, 2014, 03:30:36 AM
How so?  Do You understand the comparison between loving/lusting for/coveting money over Your fellow Human, regardless of which term You insert?  I do.  Any of those three give Me the same message to put My fellow Humans above acquiring money at any cost.

I keep thinking You are nitpicking here...

Huh?  If antonym, the original would read "The hate (fear) of money is the root of all evil..."  Which is surely NOT the message.  Frankly, when People go to translate, They usually try to find the best/closest word to what is written.  Thus One arrives at exact correlation when a word is available, or a synonym, either very close or rough.  One rarely winds up with an opposite, unless an agenda is in place and it's not a true translation.

No, not nitpicking here; it is basic understanding
of translation from one language to another.

Greek to English being the translation in question.

With that said, we do agree on many things,
and I have no agenda. We seem to agree that
love should be primary motivation,
I would add a scripture as you did in
your earlier posts yet then I suppose some
one would come along and call me a Bible
thumper.

Love you Amy.
And that is love on many levels.

I think it is the English language that comes up
short here, the greeks had a greater grasp on language
and humanity it you ask me, and a literary tradition that
impressed the Romans and made them envious.





"This is the Documentary Channel"
- Zorgon

Amaterasu

Quote from: astr0144 on February 06, 2014, 01:34:26 AM
Your theory may well be right Amy...

Maybe I had not thought / researched about it enough to fully see it all that way...

Many things are so called labour intensive, be it manual labour or administrative...

I know when I worked in a past Job...part when I was training... so much was just labour intensive...routine...

I wouldn't call it a theory...  [smile]  It's an analysis.  I can demonstrate and explain every part of it.  Understand that 80-90% of all jobs out there are in support of the money system.  Maybe more!

Banking - no real productive support for living needs outside the money system
Insurance - no real productive support for living needs outside the money system
Wall Street - no real productive support for living needs outside the money system
Accounting - no real productive support for living needs outside the money system
Financial Advising - no real productive support for living needs outside the money system
Advertising - no real productive support for living needs outside the money system
Sales - no real productive support for living needs outside the money system
Cashiering - no real productive support for living needs outside the money system
Auditing - no real productive support for living needs outside the money system

In other words, the rich are getting richer from Our energy input into the system that accounts for Our energy.  WE are not the beneficiaries of Our own energy expended, as long as We accept a few tokens in exchange.  Some will get enough in the way of tokens to afford a higher standard of living; most barely scrape by.  The bulk of the benefit goes to a very few, and We are slaves that They don't have to worry about feeding and clothing and housing, giving Us tokens to do that Ourselves, and holding power over Us in the form of threat of lost jobs (and therefore Our tokens).


QuoteSome / Many things are specialist and require higher level training, knowledge and abilities to do them...and that is the part that I may not fully account as being looked at in terms of being Energy related to do certain Jobs.. Maybe that is what you mean by some are administrators...

ALL jobs are energy related.  If One puts no energy in, no job gets done.  What I mean by Some being administrators is that Some LOVE to ensure things run smoothly, solve problems that arise in a production process (We all are problem-solvers in general), coordinate and direct.  These are the Ones who will step in to keep things like food, transportation, product creation, and such run smoothly.  They will earn much social currency in appreciation, thanks, gratefulness, and maybe even fame.

QuoteAs for the Globalist...

Initially yes, they want us as their slaves...But when they know that the AI / Robotics have been designed and created...Then they may also decide that there is no further use for a huge population who they may see as using up resources...and may have too much time on their hands to consider and learn about what they are up to... and we may be seen as a threat to them..

That may be an other reason that they want to reduce population... but it may also be similar in terms of them wanting to do this for easier control...

There are plenty of resources for all of Us.  Right now We produce about 25% MORE food than every One of Us could eat if We all tried to eat it all.  BUT...  Through spoilage, nearly half of that food is thrown away.  If the food was distributed by need and not profit, We would have a surplus.  Add new methods of farming, like vertical farming, We could support maybe 100 times the number of People now on this planet.

If We designed products to last, instead of planning obsolescence so as to ensure future sales, We would have well more than We all could need or want.  As it is now, We overflow land fills.  Ship waste to Africa by the boatload and dump it.  And so it LOOKS like there is not enough.

The "elite," however, would promote the idea that there are too many of Us to justify moves to reduce Our numbers, reduce what is available to Us, and give Them a rationalization in inciting wars such that We slaughter One another.  They love to have Us go to war at Their whim and to Their profit.

But overall, Your assessment of Their motives and thinking is quite correct.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Quote from: ArMaP on February 06, 2014, 01:37:25 AM
"Social currency" is any different?

Yes, ArMaP.  Because:

1.  You don't NEED it to survive in a society
2.  You can't steal it, defraud a Person out of it, counterfeit it, or otherwise gain it illegitimately
3.  You earn it through character and accomplishment, not merely adding Your energy for a few tokens to the enrichment of a few
4.  It promotes betterment and Human caring, not the forsaking thereof
5.  It is undefined in the sense that One cannot say, "I have 20,000 units of respect."
6.  It is not an accounting system (for the reason that it is undefined)
7.  It motivates without contract (helping Others through One's skills, for example, is not a matter of how much thanks You will get)

I'm sure I can find more, but it's late and I am tired.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

#228
Quote from: ArMaP on February 06, 2014, 01:48:25 AM
Sometimes we need something that keeps us from reaching our dreams. Imagine someone that is looking for life on Mars and, thanks to free energy and robots that do all the work, they can finally go to Mars and see that there are only rocks. What would that person do? He/she could lose the only thing he/she made him/her happy, the pursuit of something that was always eluding him/her.

PS: the above is said half joking, but only half.  :)

I doubt that Mars would be the ONLY place They would be happy searching...  I bet They can choose to go to other planets, other stars, and beyond with the tech We have (hidden just now).  Just sayin'.

Virtually all of Us have things, like painting or playing an instrument or so on that We could do the rest of Our lives and be gloriously happy.  I can't see keeping a system of accounting for energy so that the .00001% who have only one goal that, when reached, ends all motivation for Their lives will be forever pursuing it.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Quote from: burntheships on February 06, 2014, 03:50:08 AM
No, not nitpicking here; it is basic understanding
of translation from one language to another.

Greek to English being the translation in question.

With that said, we do agree on many things,
and I have no agenda. We seem to agree that
love should be primary motivation,
I would add a scripture as you did in
your earlier posts yet then I suppose some
one would come along and call me a Bible
thumper.

Love you Amy.
And that is love on many levels.

I think it is the English language that comes up
short here, the greeks had a greater grasp on language
and humanity it you ask me, and a literary tradition that
impressed the Romans and made them envious.

And I say that, regardless of the specific words used in translation, if the original message is understandable, that is what counts.  [smile]

Love You too, BTS.  [hugs!]
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

The Matrix Traveller

Why is it the human species is the ONLY ONE needing $$$$$$$'s ?

Even on Earth the human species is a very, very small minority, compared to all the other species,
let alone all the species in this little universe ....  :)

Looks like we are the odd ones out in this ?

The Matrix Traveller

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on February 06, 2014, 01:40:52 AM
So Why don't we do something about it then ?

Or is $$$$$$$$  the most Powerful "DRUG" on the Earth with "Insecurity" being its Pusher !

Sorry Armap....

Should have had this Quote you gave....

QuoteFor the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.  -- 1 Timothy 6:10

instead of ...

Quote"Social currency" is any different?

My Bad ....  :(



deuem

QuoteALL jobs are energy related.  If One puts no energy in, no job gets done.
Then the PTB also do this, they work very hard scheming everyday.

I think you would do better working on the laws first. Many of out problems today are based on laws. The laws are made to make us do things we don't want or need to do. Many laws are pushed through just to make a small percentage more gains.

I wonder how many laws would actually be on the books if the people got to vote them in or out.

I also wish that your idea of robots would be pushed to the very last thing on the list [if ever]  I have seen robots take over so many jobs now it is not funny. If the PTB get ahold of them first we will be scrapping dumpsters for food and they will be sitting high on the hog. No need for us at all. Then they can get rid of us with no problem. If they just have us around now to do those slave chores, what will happen when robots can do them. They will live in TAP and we will be food for the hogs.

Laws are everything with humans. They use the laws to get what they want. It is the law you pay taxes, the law you go to jail for smoking pot, the law that says you must do things, the money is what they get when you break them. A bonus to keep you down. Even Mosis had 10 laws? Do we really need over a million of them? First, get rid of any laws that force people to be slaves in their own house.

Then everyone start taking a day off a week to cut back on taxes paid. Don't spend money on anything that is fighting you back. Use it to your advantage, not to theirs.

Save robots for last!

And this world you are talking about sure sounds like utopia to me. I guess I don't understand that word like you do. Dolphins are in utopia with no robots. Swim all day, eat free fish, what a life. Yet they will still outcast a member and even kill if need be. Their laws maybe very simple.

Deuem

rdunk

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on February 06, 2014, 04:53:44 AM
Why is it the human species is the ONLY ONE needing $$$$$$$'s ?

Even on Earth the human species is a very, very small minority, compared to all the other species,
let alone all the species in this little universe ....  :)

Looks like we are the odd ones out in this ?

No not really! The people on this Earth are the only life-form group that is able to reach far beyond its created level in every aspect of thought and achievement. We are not the odd ones out. Rather we have proven capabilities that have demonstrated greatness beyond any levels of expectation, in spite of the need to deal with the frailties of humanness.

No, we will not succumb to the thoughts and comments of those who are unable to deal with normal day to day events and interactions of the society of man. The problems in the daily lives of people do need to be addressed, but those problems certainly won't be solved by creating "ghost story causes", and then trying to bring truth to the ghost stories.

In my opinion, TAP as is usually discussed here details "ghost story" problems.

The Matrix Traveller

Quote from: rdunk on February 06, 2014, 06:27:13 AM
No not really! The people on this Earth are the only life-form group that is able to reach far beyond its created level in every aspect of thought and achievement. We are not the odd ones out. Rather we have proven capabilities that have demonstrated greatness beyond any levels of expectation, in spite of the need to deal with the frailties of humanness.

No, we will not succumb to the thoughts and comments of those who are unable to deal with normal day to day events and interactions of the society of man. The problems in the daily lives of people do need to be addressed, but those problems certainly won't be solved by creating "ghost story causes", and then trying to bring truth to the ghost stories.

In my opinion, TAP as is usually discussed here details "ghost story" problems.

QuoteThe people on this Earth are the only life-form group that is able to reach far beyond
its created level in every aspect of thought and achievement. We are not the odd ones out.

Rather we have poven capabilities that have demonstrated greatness beyond any levels of expectation,
in spite of the need to deal with the frailties of humanness.

Heaaaa Right ......... 

zorgon

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on February 06, 2014, 04:53:44 AM
Why is it the human species is the ONLY ONE needing $$$$$$$'s


I hear the Ferengi are worse than Hu-mons wanting GOLD

QuoteEven on Earth the human species is a very, very small minority, compared to all the other species,
let alone all the species in this little universe ....  :)

But other species DO hoard 'stuff' and will get very mad when you try to take it back. Ravens for one, Ferrets for another :D Both are expert thieves and very particular about what they want

And EVERYONE knows Dragons hoard  GOLD

zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on February 06, 2014, 04:38:46 AM
I doubt that Mars would be the ONLY place They would be happy searching...  I bet They can choose to go to other planets, other stars, and beyond with the tech We have (hidden just now).  Just sayin'.

Well whether or not there is hidden tech... Hu-mons will not be going out to the stars anytime soon   Your ROBOTS will be doing that and already are. All Russian Progress series ships are robots, so is the Air Force space plane. All mining off world will be done by robots and NASA is creating the robot astronauts because space travel is to dangerous for Hu-mons


So Hu-mons will be left to smoke wacky tabacky to forget about life and tip toe trough the tulips...

...pretty much like the Hippies in the 70's :D





deuem

QuoteSo Hu-mons will be left to smoke wacky tabacky to forget about life and tip toe trough the tulips...


No tulips here, do we all have to move the Holand? After the failure of one of my processes being mis-understood I am thinking of changing my practice to "study flowers" anyways. Tinny Tim Move over.

Tip toe through the tulips, with me....Can't you just hear him singing that....

So the world is building up too tulips and smoking wacky tabacky, well that's better than war.

Deuem

zorgon

Quote from: deuem on February 06, 2014, 11:41:11 AM
No tulips here, do we all have to move the Holand?

Horse Pucky!!! 

Tulips ready to blossom in Xining, NW China
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo/2013-05/09/c_132371190.htm

Tip toe through the tulips, with me....Can't you just hear him singing that....





QuoteSo the world is building up too tulips and smoking wacky tabacky, well that's better than war.

No Only the Western World.

The Muslims want to wipe us off the face of the Planet and China wants to buy us out :D  I doubt you will find that weed taking a foothold in either of those groups :P

deuem

QuoteThe Muslims want to wipe us off the face of the Planet and China wants to buy us out :D  I doubt you will find that weed taking a foothold in either of those groups

Ok that will leave? Just the 2. Will it then be the Chinese vs the Muslims or will they leave each other alone? Both are noted for other drugs like opium, No?
D