The World Is Building Up To Something

[ArMaP]

So is the meanness.

And goodness, psychopathies, stupidity, intelligence, etc. All those things are real and are natural.

[ArMaP]

In My plan, I FORCE no One to do ANYTHING.

That's what happens when people read a post while ignoring what that post was answering.

I said I didn't like the "forcing" part because Sinny said "You have discouraged the work of Amy who happens to be a foot soldier on the front line forcing many to contemplate alternative realities, which are within our grasp if the human race could only open it's mind and perception."

I wasn't talking about your plan forcing any thing.

It's very clear You don't have a CLUE about what I suggest and base Your thinking on something YOU created, not Me.

See above. I suppose that happened because, once more, you think that I was talking about something I was not.

Fine, ArMaP.  Give Me another plan, a BETTER one, that solves for poverty, oppression, wage/debt slavery, and profiteering.

If I had a better plan (which I do not), I would give it to everyone, not just to you.

[ArMaP]

OR...  It's the way You choose to read it.  Meh.

That's what communication is all about, one person says something, the other person may understand it or not. If both want to communicate they try to say things in a way the other person understands it, without creating any confusion. I know that I have been the source of confusion enough times, but I'm not the only source.

Who's suggesting ""deus ex machina" that solves the complex parts?"  I merely have faith in Humanity to move along a better path, and will happily assist as I can.  You seem to think I expect an external "God" to do things.  I do not.  Go back and read My plan, eh?

Why would I think that you expect an external god to do things?

I said a "deus ex machina", which, according to Wikipedia (it's easier to use an already written explanation) is "a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly resolved by the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability or object".
In this case I was thinking about your idea of "free energy" and "working robots" as the "deus ex machina" that is going to solve the problems, as your idea depends on their existence.

Whatever. 

Suuuure.

[zorgon]

Whatever. 

Suuuure.

[A51Watcher]

"Things are gonna change, I can feel it!"

[zorgon]

The tipping point has tiers.  If 10% of one group has the idea then it fills that group - whether They agree or not - from there that group spreads the idea into other groups which, when reaching the tipping point, will fill and spread...  And so on.

That ONLY holds true IF the idea is one that has STICKING POWER...  For every thousand ideas someone comes up with, maybe ONE has that STICKING POWER

And "Tipping Point" also has THREE LAWS  which I am sure you are aware of

1 The three rules
1.1 The Law of the Few
1.2 The Stickiness Factor
1.3 The Power of Context


Lets have a look at this since most people probably are not familiar with the concept.

Malcolm Gladwell, The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference




I see that Malcolm understands the 80/20 rule that I have posted on many times... where 20% do all the work to see a project through.  He uses Paul Revere's ride "The British are Coming" as an example of an idea that reached the tipping point and we all know that the American Revolution was fought by only 20% of "We the People.."

Pet Rock, Hush Puppies, Hula Hoop, Frisbies... all examples of the tipping point spreading like a virus.  So yeah I can see where you think it might be that simple...

But all these ideas are small compared to changing an entire global system. They are a SINGLE POINT item of change... something that people can grasp easily.


Lets have a look at the three laws according to Malcolm...

The Law of the Few

"The success of any kind of social epidemic is heavily dependent on the involvement of people with a particular and rare set of social gifts"  - Malcolm Gladwell  According to Malcolm Gladwell, economists call this the "80/20 Principle, which is the idea that in any situation roughly 80 percent of the 'work' will be done by 20 percent of the participants". These people are described in the following ways:

Connectors, are the people in a community who know large numbers of people and who are in the habit of making introductions. A connector is essentially the social equivalent of a computer network hub. They usually know people across an array of social, cultural, professional, and economic circles, and make a habit of introducing people who work or live in different circles. They are people who "link us up with the world...people with a special gift for bringing the world together". They are "a handful of people with a truly extraordinary knack [... for] making friends and acquaintances". Malcolm Gladwell characterizes these individuals as having social networks of over one hundred people. To illustrate, he cites the following examples: the midnight ride of Paul Revere, Milgram's experiments in the small world problem, the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" trivia game, Dallas businessman Roger Horchow, and Chicagoan Lois Weisberg, a person who understands the concept of the weak tie. Gladwell attributes the social success of Connectors to the fact that "their ability to span many different worlds is a function of something intrinsic to their personality, some combination of curiosity, self-confidence, sociability, and energy".


Mavens are "information specialists", or "people we rely upon to connect us with new information." They accumulate knowledge, especially about the marketplace, and know how to share it with others. Gladwell cites Mark Alpert as a prototypical Maven who is "almost pathologically helpful", further adding, "he can't help himself". In this vein, Alpert himself concedes, "A Maven is someone who wants to solve other people's problems, generally by solving his own". According to Gladwell, Mavens start "word-of-mouth epidemics" due to their knowledge, social skills, and ability to communicate. As Malcolm Gladwell states, "Mavens are really information brokers, sharing and trading what they know"

Salesmen are "persuaders", charismatic people with powerful negotiation skills. They tend to have an indefinable trait that goes beyond what they say, which makes others want to agree with them. Malcolm Gladwell's examples include California businessman Tom Gau and news anchor Peter Jennings, and he cites several studies about the persuasive implications of non-verbal cues, including a headphone nod study (conducted by Gary Wells of the University of Alberta and Richard Petty of the University of Missouri) and William S. Condon's cultural microrhythms study.


So which of the three do you consider yourself to be? The connector who can tie people together to a common cause, the maven or the salesman that can sell the idea successfully?

I think I am a Maven "A Maven is someone who wants to solve other people's problems, generally by solving his own"

Yup that be me Practice what I preach

Stop looking at it as if the whole globe must reach that point, initially.

I don't  I figure that IF this were to start it would be a local thing at first... but for a no money system to have ANY chance at all of succeeding it would need to go Global very quickly as we are a Global economy that depends on trade with most of the nations on the planet

I am NOT looking for agreement, but DIALOG. 

Well to reach any tipping point you would need agreement... but you don't really want dialog that doesn't accept your solution

As with many blueprints, improvements can be made as Other minds contemplate the drawing.  Though I think I have a fine blueprint, I am open to ideas to improve it.

This is why you are not getting anywhere. The situation in the world is bad RIGHT NOW... people in the USA (never mind the starving nations) are losing homes, can't feed their families etc...  They need answers NOW that will help them TODAY to survive the next few years

You say you want to help the starving.  Well how many have YOU helped feed?  I have helped raise MILLIONS of dollars literally to help hundreds of mentally handicapped deal with life.  I am only one person, but I created my own 'tipping point' of an idea to help where I could and have others want to join the cause

If every person who had a little extra would help 5 who don't... the problem would soon be solved  A trickle that would become a stream

The Maven... that old philosophy that says "You cannot help others until you help yourself first"  Even the Church says it "God will help those that help themselves"  Another way is "You can feed a man a fish, but tomorrow he will need another fish... and you will spend your life giving that man a daily fish.... or you can teach that man to fish for himself and thus solve the problem"

[zorgon]

The Stickiness Factor

THIS is THE MOST IMPORTANT part of any tipping point...

The specific content of a message that renders its impact memorable.

Popular children's television programs such as Sesame Street and Blue's Clues pioneered the properties of the stickiness factor, thus enhancing the effective retention of the educational content in tandem with its entertainment value.

If your idea is too complicated, too wide spread and not showing a specif fix, it will leave people confused and thus unable to grasp the idea, much less that it is doable. Most ideas that have gone viral in history are single one point ideas... One single focus on one single easy to grasp point where people can say "Hell YEAH! I get it."

What is the SPECIFIC CONTENT of TAP that will be memorable and  make people say "Hell YEAH! I get it."

[zorgon]

The Power of Context

Ah yes "Context"   I see Malcolm DOES take into account HUMAN BEHAVIOR

Human behavior is sensitive to and strongly influenced by its environment. As Malcolm Gladwell says, "Epidemics are sensitive to the conditions and circumstances of the times and places in which they occur". For example, "zero tolerance" efforts to combat minor crimes such as fare-beating and vandalism on the New York subway led to a decline in more violent crimes city-wide. Gladwell describes the bystander effect, and explains how Dunbar's number plays into the tipping point, using Rebecca Wells' novel Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood, evangelist John Wesley, and the high-tech firm W. L. Gore and Associates. Malcolm Gladwell also discusses what he dubs the rule of 150, which states that the maximum number of individuals in a society or group that someone can have real social relationships with is 150.

Gladwell also includes two chapters of case studies, situations in which tipping point concepts were used in specific situations. These situations include the athletic shoe company Airwalk, the diffusion model, how rumors are spread, decreasing the spread of syphilis in Baltimore, teen suicide in Micronesia, and teen smoking in the United States.

I see Malcolm made some serious MONEY on this

Malcolm Gladwell and his co-partner, John Decker, both received an estimated US$1–1.5 million advance for The Tipping Point, which sold 1.7 million copies by 2006. In the wake of the book's success, Gladwell was able to earn as much as $40,000 per lecture. Sales increased again in 2006 after the release of Gladwell's next book,

[Eighthman]

http://carnegieeurope.eu/2013/12/27/worldwide-protests-portend-shaking-of-authority/gx5m

Similar to the original link but without the cool buildup of dots.

My OCD is better than your OCD!

[Amaterasu]

I am NOT looking for agreement, but DIALOG. 

false

HOW is it false?  I seek Us all to DISCUSS the ideas.  That will mean People have THOUGHT about some other way.

In My plan, I FORCE no One to do ANYTHING.  Sky can live EXACTLY like She is living now.  Any who want to keep doing what THEY are doing may do so.  But for those who HATE Their job (a HUGE percentage), They will have OPTIONS.  They can make CHOICES They presently DON'T HAVE.  Geez.  It's very clear You don't have a CLUE about what I suggest and base Your thinking on something YOU created, not Me.

they have options now and are not using them..what makes you so arrogant to think robots and no money will make any difference

Ah.  What options to the children starving to death on this planet have?  What options to the People who give up dreams to pump Their energy into meaningless jobs have because They could not afford a good education?  What options do old ladies have when the 20 and 30 somethings are the ones hired?  Please.  Do tell on all these accounts.

Instead of just making statements like edicts of "false" and "People have options but don't use them," give examples.  Thanks.

and perhaps you need to see this statement of yours in the mirror as you hear no one

I hear - lots of statements with nothing to back them up. 

It's very clear You don't have a CLUE about what I suggest and base Your thinking on something YOU created, not Me.

the only thing that seems to be missing for you in your plan is the robots..you have someone paying your tab (or should i say paying while you play taps with their money)
while you do what you want

Yup.  You're clueless. 

that is not mean   that is honest..that is someone else having an opinion and voicing it

*I* was not the One who brought up meanness.  Just pointing out that meanness is real too.

[The Matrix Traveller]

What you say here Z I believe to be 100% Correct !

I don't  I figure that IF this were to start it would be a local thing at first...
but for a no money system to have ANY chance at all of succeeding it would need
to go Global very quickly as we are a Global economy that depends on trade
with most of the nations on the planet.

So for such an event to take place, it is certainly NOT going to come
by human choice, but perhaps involves an "Environmental" persuasion, which leaves us
Without a monetary or economic System in place, nor the possibility of establishing such
in place again.   

But this little world is Full of Surprises !

That's what makes it such an Interesting experience.   

[Amaterasu]

That's what happens when people read a post while ignoring what that post was answering.

I said I didn't like the "forcing" part because Sinny said "You have discouraged the work of Amy who happens to be a foot soldier on the front line forcing many to contemplate alternative realities, which are within our grasp if the human race could only open it's mind and perception."

I wasn't talking about your plan forcing any thing.
See above. I suppose that happened because, once more, you think that I was talking about something I was not.
If I had a better plan (which I do not), I would give it to everyone, not just to you.

Fair enough, though I am not forcing People to do anything despite the statement made by Sinny.  I merely offer the opportunity to think outside the box.

And as for giving plans to everyone...  That is EXACTLY what I am doing.  Just sayin'.

[The Matrix Traveller]

Don't you just love this expression .... as I do too .... LOL.

Nothing to do with the Subject .... but purely the human expression !

[Amaterasu]

That's what communication is all about, one person says something, the other person may understand it or not. If both want to communicate they try to say things in a way the other person understands it, without creating any confusion. I know that I have been the source of confusion enough times, but I'm not the only source.
Why would I think that you expect an external god to do things?

Hey.  I do My best.

I said a "deus ex machina", which, according to Wikipedia (it's easier to use an already written explanation) is "a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly resolved by the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability or object".
In this case I was thinking about your idea of "free energy" and "working robots" as the "deus ex machina" that is going to solve the problems, as your idea depends on their existence.

Uh, yeah.  But it's NOT "contrived."  It is a FACT that nowhere in history do We have these tools.  It is a FACT that money accounts for Human energy.  It is a FACT that We don't need money with the tools We have now.  "Unexpected?"  Maybe, though the "elite" probably understood quite well the direct and intimate relation energy has with money.

So...  NOT "deus ex machine."  Merely reasoning and grasping the fact that We now have the ability to change something We never could before.

Suuuure.

Yup.

[The Matrix Traveller]

But WHAT is going on in the Earth and has  done for thousands of years is Perfect in every way.
It achieves its "purpose", which the Human Primate neither wants to understand or perhaps can ?

If we stand outside the box and look into the world it is possible to see the patterns
and view it from LIFE's perspective, seeing that our REAL "SELVES" (NOT the flesh)
are a PART of LIFE