A 1,500 mile Big Ship?

[zorgon]

But nobody seems to want to explore the potential of a 1,500 mile big something either. Now what does that say?

The Black knight Satellite is one of THE top search topics people use to find the Livingmoon Problem is there is little to be found on it.  And quoting from the Bible will not help

Here is Rama incoming.... it is HUGE and as far as I am concerned it's been within our solar system for a long time... the first contact was just at the same time Sputnik was launched because THAT was the first time we had any reason to look 'out there'






Here is an animation of a flight within the huge ship. The concept of "Rendevous with Rama" is that the ship is EMPTY  just waiting for us to board it.

[zorgon]

The ship is a huge Torus, spinning to create artificial gravity,  so the gravity would be away from center, thus the land appears as it does in the animation

Black Knight Satellite

1927 Encounter (again 1928 and in 1929)
Space Probe from Epsilon Boötes The signals were not deciphered until 1970

1954 Encounter
November 28, 1954 Signals from TWO 'satelites received  Sputnik launched October 4, 1957

1960 Encounter
1960 the US detected an unknown object in polar orbit, a feat that neither they or the USSR had been able to accomplish. As if that wasn't enough, it apparently was several sizes larger than anything either country would have been able to get off the ground.

And then, the oddness began. HAM operators began to receive strange coded messages. One person in particular said he managed to decode one of the transmissions, and it corresponded to a star chart. A star chart which would have been plotted from earth 13,000 years ago, and focused on the Epsilon Bostes star system.

On September 3, 1960, seven months after the satellite was first detected by radar, a tracking camera at Grumman Aircraft Corporation's Long Island factory took a photograph of it. People on the ground had been occasionally seeing it for about two weeks at that point. Viewers would make it out as a red glowing object moving in an east-to-west orbit. Most satellites of the time, according to what little material I've been able to find on the black knight satellite, moved from west-to-east. It's speed was also about three times normal. A committee was formed to examine it, but nothing more was ever made public.

THIS was when it was first named "Black Knight Satellite"

Three years later, Gordon Cooper was launched into space for a 22 orbit mission. On his final orbit, he reported seeing a glowing green shape ahead of his capsule, and heading in his direction. It's said that the Muchea tracking station, in Australia, which Cooper reported this too was also able to pick it up on radar traveling in an east-to-west orbit. This event was reported by NBC, but reporters were forbidden to ask Cooper about the event on his landing.


"The Black Knight from Space" Long running ATS thread now directly linked the "Rendevous with Rama"  Lots of links there to the 1917 and 1954 cases

There was an interesting member there that cause quite a stir... D4rk Kn1ght

[zorgon]

 Project Camelot Interview with Clifford Stone
ET Interpreter: Sgt. Clifford Stone
A video interview with Clifford Stone, Roswell, New Mexico, November 2006

Clipping of relevant portion

C:  Well, I'll tell you this, I think that by 2016 that something better have happened. Because at 2016 I think that we're going to have to announce to the world that there's a probe that comes very close to the Earth every 15 or 20 years. And we've been calling it an asteroid. It's not an asteroid. But it actually in reality is an artificial probe. In other words, somebody else put it here. They have found us long time ago. The technology will probably be pretty much on a par to, say, Voyager. It'll be old antiquated technology by all their standards.

K:  So what are you saying? Is this probe... do you know what race?

C:  I'm saying we have already found it. Our paradigm says that it can't be an artificial craft of any sort, therefore we refuse to accept that and we call it an asteroid. I'm talking about BG1991. Roughly 30 meters in diameter, highly polished surface. Asteroids don't have a highly polished surface. It took corrective course changes to avoid collision with another asteroid. That don't happen. This one it did.

K:  So where... what race is this from, from what planet? Do you know?

C:  I don't know.

[zorgon]

Extraterrestrial Monolith In Space




Apollo X Gets Glimpse Of An Extraterrestrial Monolith In Space
by Richard Boylan, Ph.D. 1998
drboylan@jps.net

Apollo X Gets Glimpse Of An Extraterrestrial Monolith In Space; Later A Secret Military Space Shuttle Retrieves the Space Beacon

The following information was disclosed to me by a reliable confidential informant, who previously worked on contract for the National Security Agency, and maintains connections within the Intelligence community. This informant, whom I shall call "Jesse", has over 40 years of notes from a very close relative, who served as CIA liaison to the National Security Council on UFO/ET matters. This information has been confirmed by a second source, Dr. Michael Wolf of the National Security Council's unacknowledged subcommittee, the MJ-12 Special Studies Group. I have talked with Dr. Wolf about the notes' author, Jesse's relative. Dr. Wolf said that that CIA official "was like an uncle to me."

The reports which follow are thus not "leaks", but rather based on planned releases of information. These releases are part of a public Acclimation Program, an official though unacknowledged U.S. Government policy of "processed release of information", as Dr. Wolf described it.

According to "Jesse", in 1969 the Apollo 10 astronauts Stafford, Cernan and Young were the first to film an extraterrestrial space beacon, dubbed The Monolith, somewhat like, but smaller than, the one in Arthur C. Clarke's book/movie "2001". They were not, however, the first astronauts to spot this ET beacon. The Monolith was first sighted by Russian cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin, the first man in space, in 1961. He was followed into space that same year by American astronaut Alan Shephard, who also sighted the beacon. Apollo 10 went to it, and filmed it from every angle. The Monolith acted like a communication beacon. Jesse said, "It sort of acts like the message received in the movie "Contact". It had a message on it, in addition to a map of the extraterrestrial civilization which placed it there], and how to get to them."

[deuem]

Well ArMaP if you are not up to the discussion, ok 


But nobody seems to want to explore the potential of a 1,500 mile big something either. Now what does that say?

it says that the thread is way too open on the subject and there is not enough info for people to dig into. Matrix added info. You claim ancient writings but show none? Can you scan a few of these and place them here. Any info is better than a blanket statement.

It is as if there is this ship coming and if we don't believe your writings we are all doomed. Quite frankly I am not sure what you are trying to show us here. More doom porn or the Alien ship that is on its way to make my day.

And if no one wants to play we are insulted. I for one do not like that! Dig in and get more info for this subject. When threads die, they die on there own here. This one is headed that way because of the lack of information and research. Every day there is a potential of something happening. This thread is what I call a drop and run. Just enough info to get it started. We call it bait. Seems the fish are full on the other threads and not hungry to go off and research this topic because of all the 2012 doom porn we went through.

Deuem, asking if you can, beef up the skeleton of this thread. Now what does that say?

[zorgon]

Black Knight Satellite
2004 Encounter ?
Alien Speech Found in NASA's Saturn Radio Signal

Cassini probe recorded this near Saturn... contact with the Ringmaker's ship?

[zorgon]

What we have collected so far that relates to the Black Knight possible cases is here

Black Knight Satellite

[zorgon]

it says that the thread is way too open on the subject and there is not enough info for people to dig into. Matrix added info. You claim ancient writings but show none? Can you scan a few of these and place them here. Any info is better than a blanket statement.

Well I did find THIS  and highlighted a few points from an 'Ancient Text"

The New Heaven and the New Earth.
1
a Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth. The former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.*

So this happens AFTER earth is destroyed... just like the NOAH's ARK I showed from the Starlost and the same idea as RAMA being a ship to save us after the earth is gone

2
I also saw the holy city, a new Jerusalem,* coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.b
3
I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Behold, God's dwelling is with the human race.c He will dwell with them and they will be his people* and God himself will always be with them [as their God].*
4
He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there shall be no more death or mourning, wailing or pain, [for] the old order has passed away."d

5
The one who sat on the throne* said, "Behold, I make all things new." Then he said, "Write these words down, for they are trustworthy and true."e
6
He said to me, "They are accomplished.* I [am] the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give a gift from the spring of life-giving water.f
7
The victor* will inherit these gifts, and I shall be his God, and he will be my son.g
8
But as for cowards,* the unfaithful, the depraved, murderers, the unchaste, sorcerers, idol-worshipers, and deceivers of every sort, their lot is in the burning pool of fire and sulfur, which is the second death."h
The New Jerusalem.*
9
One of the seven angels who held the seven bowls filled with the seven last plagues came and said to me, "Come here. I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb."*
10
He took me in spirit to a great, high mountain and showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God.i

There you have the 'landing'

11
It gleamed with the splendor of God. Its radiance was like that of a precious stone, like jasper, clear as crystal.j
12
It had a massive, high wall, with twelve gates where twelve angels were stationed and on which names were inscribed, [the names] of the twelve tribes of the Israelites.
13
There were three gates facing east, three north, three south, and three west.k
14
The wall of the city had twelve courses of stones as its foundation, on which were inscribed the twelve names of the twelve apostles* of the Lamb.l
15
* The one who spoke to me held a gold measuring rod to measure the city, its gates, and its wall.
16
The city was square, its length the same as [also] its width. He measured the city with the rod and found it fifteen hundred miles* in length and width and height.

There is your 1500 miles - Note: Fifteen hundred miles: literally, twelve thousand stades, about 12,000 furlongs

17
He also measured its wall: one hundred and forty-four cubits* according to the standard unit of measurement the angel used.
18
* The wall was constructed of jasper, while the city was pure gold, clear as glass.
19
The foundations of the city wall were decorated with every precious stone; the first course of stones was jasper, the second sapphire, the third chalcedony, the fourth emerald,m
20
the fifth sardonyx, the sixth carnelian, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh hyacinth, and the twelfth amethyst.
21
The twelve gates were twelve pearls, each of the gates made from a single pearl; and the street of the city was of pure gold, transparent as glass.
22
* n I saw no temple in the city, for its temple is the Lord God almighty and the Lamb.
23
* The city had no need of sun or moon to shine on it,o for the glory of God gave it light, and its lamp was the Lamb.
24
The nations will walk by its light,* and to it the kings of the earth will bring their treasure.p
25
During the day its gates will never be shut, and there will be no night there.
26
The treasure and wealth of the nations will be brought there,

[deuem]

16
The city was square, its length the same as [also] its width. He measured the city with the rod and found it fifteen hundred miles* in length and width and height.

There is your 1500 miles - Note: Fifteen hundred miles: literally, twelve thousand stades, about 12,000 furlongs

To do this would take over a year with a stick. And I don't know how they would measure the height with a stick. It seems the mile was different to them. 1,500 miles would cross water all over the place. Then the guy with the stick would need a boat also. Not to mention the curvature of the earth. This thing would be sitting on the Earth like a see-saw rocking side to side. Sorry, can't imagine it landing and being measured. Just too big. Drop a zero and it becomes more understandable.

Deuem

[zorgon]

Zero Dropped (ZPM Zero Point mudules)

[Norval]

Thank you Zorgon and for the other information you added. I knew that "other" ships would be showing up. Yah think the King of the entire universe would be showing up without and "escort"? Besides the ships that had the war in our solar system and destroyed most habitable areas, including those deep under "ground" on other planets and (so called ) asteroids. Thanks also for posting the passages from that ancient document that are also relevant to this 1,500 mils big thing. My main computer took a dump on me and I am still programming this new one with all the data. 

Well Deuem, you have to remember that that was only a mind job on John about what he was seeing. Like mental telepathy, or implanting the mind with something, a vision. Like I said earlier, if it does land then it aint gonna be a pretty sight at all. So I personally doubt that it will actually land. Remember that it was wrote in a very old and very few words language, as I have said. 

[The Matrix Traveller]

Hi Deuem,

Matrix added info. You claim ancient writings but show none? Can you scan a few of these and place them here. Any info is better than a blanket statement.

I have given many, many "References" already IF one takes the time to read !

One reason for NOT presenting more, is because many such "writings" are freely available on the net.

One only has to look them up.... and see what I am referring to.


If One is NOT educated in this area one will not recognise anything on the subject !


I think I have supplied more evidence than anyone here, regarding the Ancient knowledge
of what was once referred to as the Soul.

If you wish to take my place, and do it for me you are more than welcome.!


Many such writings can be found in any University Libraries, IF they have a Theology, Philosophy,
or religious Studies semester !

I can't see any reason for doubling up on Data which is freely available on the net. unless bringing others
attention to such Historical records which I have done in the past !

I will leave the "spade work" for you others, as I have nothing at all to prove... nor do I have the need to.



I make freely available the work I have been involved with, and if others don't wish to make
use of it doesn't matter !

I have spent from 1997 Fulltime involvement in the Development of "Mind Interfaces", so if
it is of NO interest, I can easily bring an END to what I have brought here,
and make it available to others, who will make use of it !


The Reason I don't fill my threads full of biblical "quotes" is because I only get Falsely accused of being
a Religious person, which I certainly am NOT !


YES my Post Secondary Education involved "Philosophy" and "Theology".

NOT taught through any church !

Which in no way makes me a religious person, or bible thumper re their own beliefs ...



When I mention such writings found in the "Gnostic Libraries" for example, I get Falsely accused
of being "Gnostic" by bible thumpers.


I guess I am Damned if I do.... and Damned if I don't ....  LOL.


You only have to look at my "Stats" to see the amount of Time, I put into uploading Posts
for you and others so you have the chance of making use of the knowledge.

That is if you wish to !

No One says you have to !

But on the subject of this forum.... there is NO Mention of any Alien Craft Whatsoever
in "The Revelation of Jesus Christ" as such wild  claims have been made !

To make such claims is Insulting LIFE itself !

But others are free to do this if they Like !

If there is mention in Chapter 21 of "The Revelation of Jesus Christ", then put up the Evidence !


On the other hand !

You can find Parts of the "Processing System" (Soul) through Out China and in fact just about
any Country on Earth.

The Evidence is all over the world and right in our faces but most desire to be in denial I guess ?


It takes very little effort to find both the writings and Evidence in Architectural Décor
If you understand what you are Looking At !

You can find all this in "Government Buildings", "Public Buildings", "Palaces", "Opera Houses", "Mosques",
monasteries, Cathedrals Churches and other "religious Buildings", even In Banks and others.

There even hundreds if Not Thousands of Examples in some of these buildings presenting
the Processing System's Language IF you look ?

How much more do you need ?

One is BLIND if they can't see all this !

I guess some walk around looking but NOT seeing !

[deuem]

No, this was for you,

Matrix added info.

That info boosted the empty thread and got others moving. It was a compliment to you.
Deuem

[zorgon]

I knew that "other" ships would be showing up. Yah think the King of the entire universe would be showing up without and "escort"?

[zorgon]

To do this would take over a year with a stick. And I don't know how they would measure the height with a stick. It seems the mile was different to them.

TIME was different for them too if we take Norval's ancient text seriously   NOAH lived to be almost a thousand  had kids at 600