Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

[spacemaverick]

Wish there was more detail on what this means, how did they come to their conclusions.

They come out with this conclusion but don't tell us how they reached the conclusion.  I'm not an expert but I have worked with manufacturing some aircraft parts and no about serialized parts that be traced.  I saw the flaperon and it is only part of a flaperon and not the whole thing.  We'll see what's up.  Since it was found in a French controlled area we may or may not get more news on the testing.  Who knows...but we'll keep watch.

[ArMaP]

They come out with this conclusion but don't tell us how they reached the conclusion.

If I'm not mistaken it was only the Malaysian prime minister that said it, the experts didn't confirm that the debris are from flight 370.

[astr0144]

Malaysia just published a new theory about how the missing Flight MH370 fell into the ocean.


A large piece of plane debris was found on the beach in Saint-Andre, on the French Indian Ocean island of La Reunion, on July 29.



Malaysia's government news agency has published a new theory about what might have happened to missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 upon impact, The Week reports.
Satellite expert Zaaim Redha Abdul Rahman, who helped the UK satellite firm Inmarsat analyze data shortly after the plane went missing in March last year, said the plane probably made a soft landing on the water, floated for a while on the surface, and then sank mostly in one piece.

This is consistent with what other experts have said about the likely fate of the plane after new evidence emerged last month.

A piece of debris that was almost certainly part of MH370 suggests the aircraft may have glided along after running out of fuel and descended slowly into the water. A Boeing 777 flaperon washed up on Reunion Island near Madagascar in the Indian Ocean.



Former US National Transportation Safety Board investigator Greg Feith told Bloomberg that since the piece was not "crushed," experts could "deduce it was either a low-energy crash or a low-energy intentional ditching."

Rahman came to the same conclusion.

"It (the flaperon) was only slightly damaged and was just encrusted with barnacles," Rahman told the Bernama news agency. "Its appearance indicates that it was not violently torn off from the aircraft's main body ... it does seem that it got detached pretty nicely at its edges.

"If MH370 had crashed with a really hard impact, we would have seen small pieces of debris floating on the sea immediately after that," he added. "Furthermore, the flaperon that was recovered (from Reunion Island) wouldn't have been in one piece ... we would have only seen bits and pieces of it."


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It's possible that the flaperon broke off from the submerged plane body, Rahman said.

"Similarly, other parts would also become detached and float with the help of the strong water current, before being washed up on the shores of islands like Reunion," he said.

Teams continue to search the southern Indian Ocean, where the plane is believed to have crashed, for the rest of the aircraft.



Patrick Smith, airline pilot and author of the book "Cockpit Confidential," told Business Insider last month that the debris could hint at the manner of the crash — but it would still just be speculation at this point.
"If indeed the wing piece was in the extended position, consistent with where it would be in low-speed operations, this MIGHT suggest the airplane was still under control when it crashed," Smith told Business Insider in an email.

"But we're looking at one tiny, badly damaged piece from the jetliner. It's merely supposition at this point."

MH370 disappeared on March 8, 2014, while flying from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing. The Boeing 777-200ER vanished with 239 people onboard.

The search for the Malaysian jet has been focused on a 7.3-million-square-mile area in the southern Indian Ocean off the western coast of Australia.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/malaysia-just-published-theory-missing-181820592.html

[spacemaverick]

I am finding it interesting that the French won't commit to the part being from MH 370.  I also find it interesting that there is a secrecy agreement regarding certain aspects of the MH-370 search and where the information came from intelligence satellites by Australia and the United States.  And also the same with MH-17...anomalies there also and the Dutch want to keep things secret also for MH-17.  What in the world is going on?  We seem to have a lot of issues with these Boeing aircraft disappearing being shot down, used as bombs etc....and nobody really wants to say anything.  Kind of makes you want to go hmmmmm.  Some people want to say MH-370 was actually MH-17 and MH-370 was hijacked and taken someplace to be used later.  Well MH-17 has plenty of parts laying on the ground.  Fins some of the parts with their serial numbers and run them against the Boeing database.  That will put that theory to rest.  The flaperon if it is fully there should have a serial number on it.  Check it and run it against the database.  Malaysia wants to put all this behind them awfully quick.  It's hard to go beyond speculation when there are very little evidence to go on.

[hoss58]

I am finding it interesting that the French won't commit to the part being from MH 370.  I also find it interesting that there is a secrecy agreement regarding certain aspects of the MH-370 search and where the information came from intelligence satellites by Australia and the United States.  And also the same with MH-17...anomalies there also and the Dutch want to keep things secret also for MH-17.  What in the world is going on?  We seem to have a lot of issues with these Boeing aircraft disappearing being shot down, used as bombs etc....and nobody really wants to say anything.  Kind of makes you want to go hmmmmm.  Some people want to say MH-370 was actually MH-17 and MH-370 was hijacked and taken someplace to be used later.  Well MH-17 has plenty of parts laying on the ground.  Fins some of the parts with their serial numbers and run them against the Boeing database.  That will put that theory to rest.  The flaperon if it is fully there should have a serial number on it.  Check it and run it against the database.  Malaysia wants to put all this behind them awfully quick.  It's hard to go beyond speculation when there are very little evidence to go on.

I agree spacemaverick...all this talk of plane parts and no mention of the serial numbers that we ALL know are on every part of a Boeing aircraft...hmmmmmmm

[spacemaverick]

http://gizmodo.com/the-case-of-the-mh370-wing-segment-keeps-getting-weirde-1727429146

When a wing section of a Boeing 777 washed up on the Indian Ocean island of La Réunion last month, the Malaysian government quickly ascribed the part to missing Malaysian Airlines Flight 370. But an ongoing investigation has failed to verify this claim, and the story just keeps getting weirder.

Shortly after the flaperon washed up, Boeing engineers confirmed that the wing segment belongs to a 777. And MH370, which went missing in March of 2014, is the only 777 unaccounted for. So case closed, right?

Malaysian prime minister Najib Razak figured it was, and on August 5th, he released a statement announcing as much to the world. But minutes later, French investigator Serge Mackowiak countered the prime minister's remarks, saying that more tests were needed to conclusively determine the wing segment's origin. Those test results were supposed to come within a day. Then it became a few days. Now it's been several weeks.

What's the hangup? According to New York Magazine, the ID plate that should have been attached to the inboard edge of the flaperon is missing. This plate, affixed to all 777 flaperons, ought to contain a serial number linking the part to MH370. Its absence has not only stymied the verification process, it's resulted in other aspects of the wing segment coming under (perhaps excessive) scrutiny.

And the weird saga continues.....

[WarToad]

I suppose that while this is a known 777 part, and there is only 1 missing 777, you cannot rule out this "could be" a 777 part from a boneyard of a scrapped 777.  As unlikely as that is... you can't 100.00% rule it out without the serial number plate at this point.

I'm just playing the Devil's advocate.

[spacemaverick]

I suppose that while this is a known 777 part, and there is only 1 missing 777, you cannot rule out this "could be" a 777 part from a boneyard of a scrapped 777.  As unlikely as that is... you can't 100.00% rule it out without the serial number plate at this point.

I'm just playing the Devil's advocate.

Very true...having worked law enforcement for 20 years I worked off of evidence.  Circumstantial is evidence is weaker than real evidence.  Basically you have to work off the totality of the circumstances which are really very very thin at this point....

[spacemaverick]

This article came in from WIRED 2 days ago and I just now caught it.  It seems that the French bored a hole into the flaperon to look inside and found some other serial numbers.  They used and endoscope to check out the numbers and they are indeed from MH-370.

http://www.wired.com/2015/09/ok-chunk-plane-debris-now-officially-mh370/

I am more inclined to believe the French authorities and analysts than  Malaysian authorities.

[rdunk]

That is good! Now we do know that the plane went into the water! Probably will never be clearly known as to the why it did! 

Maybe we have now finally reached the end of this "Malaysian Flight 370" thread!!  - - - unless somebody comes up with "facts" proposing that "A UFO DID IT"!! 

[ArMaP]

Maybe we have now finally reached the end of this "Malaysian Flight 370" thread!!  - - - unless somebody comes up with "facts" proposing that "A UFO DID IT"!! 

UFOs are so "last year", now everything is connected to Jade Helm. 

[rdunk]

ArMaP, from some of the Jade Helm YouTube videos, one might think we will be hearing a lot more about Jade Helm, and the reality of what it was/is all about, after September 30, when whatever following after affects we are to learn about...........come about!!

This video is just a for instance, of things that are happening in September 2015



http://hebrewnationonline.com/

[spacemaverick]

UFOs are so "last year", now everything is connected to Jade Helm. 

I still have no opinion of Jade Helm but I am watching and I am vigilant.  Having been in he military...we had very large exercises many a time.

As for MH 370...we know it's down somewhere unless the French are lying but I don't think that is the case.  This thread has gotten rather long but it has been a long fruitful journey for me and I think it may have gotten some attention outside the forum.  It has been interesting for me and hope it has for everyone else.

[rdunk]

I still have no opinion of Jade Helm but I am watching and I am vigilant.  Having been in he military...we had very large exercises many a time.

As for MH 370...we know it's down somewhere unless the French are lying but I don't think that is the case.  This thread has gotten rather long but it has been a long fruitful journey for me and I think it may have gotten some attention outside the forum.  It has been interesting for me and hope it has for everyone else.

Absolutely spacemaverick!! It was a questionable affair at every angle, and of course, most of those "angles" are still unanswered! But the death of the "actors" does make it difficult to expect irrefutable concrete answers! It has been a sad yet interesting thing to follow!!

And Jade Helm has the appearance of being just as questionable, relative to "facts of matters", particularly with it being an openly classified operation, in and around openly public areas!! There is/are obviously something(s) very hidden, with even the known details about what is going on in the Jade Helm operation on US soil, with even foreign nationals supposedly involved!! Of course I brought it up in this thread, as ArMaP mentioned it, but the primary Jade Helm thread may go way beyond the length of this thread, before it has any type if final ending, who knows when! 

[spacemaverick]

UPDATE!!!!

Do not know how true this may be but here is the latest and it will be investigated according to what article has said.


MH370: Plane wreckage with pilot SKELETON and Malaysian Airlines colours 'found'

PLANE wreckage with the Malaysian flag painted on the side linking it to lost aircraft MH370 has reportedly been found in the Philippines.

This is gradually coming together piece by little piece.......

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015/10/11/Philippines-Malaysian-flag/

Philippine law enforcement baffled how debris ends up in the jungle.  Maybe not 370.