Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

[Fruitbat]

And ever since they published an as yet unretracted article by some ponce claiming that ADHD does not exist, I've had cause to question their journalistic integrity.

I'm with maverick. I want to see some hard evidence before I'll believe that we know what has happened to MH370.

FB.

[Sinny]

And ever since they published an as yet unretracted article by some ponce claiming that ADHD does not exist, I've had cause to question their journalistic integrity.

This is a touchy subject, as me and you are friends...

However, I can't with hold my opinion any longer...

I'm a non-believer in ADHD.

I'll  be more than glad to invest in a friendly debate with you...

Interesting to note FB, you have the same 'tick' as me.. I'm going to use your method, the 'blue' one..

ETA: You should have questioned their integrity long ago..

[zorgon]

Just happened to catch a CNN live report last night around 1am

The talking head said that they found a signal from the bottom of the ocean but that the expected frequency was different from what they recieved  and they couldn't figure out why the signal was intermitent not steady.

The talking head then said that until we actually pull it uf we can't be sure but it looks like this may be it...

Followed by a weather report showing a massive storm exactly over the spot where the signal was... with the smiling weatherman explaining how this storm could blow any debris hundreds of miles away... stating that the items on the palne that get 'lift' (like wings and tail section) could be blown hundreds of miles away

I WISH I had a way to have recorded that

[sky otter]

what channel were yoiu watching?..most of that stuff winds up on youie t.. 

[Fruitbat]

Gonna answer that in a PM as it is waaay OT.

This is a touchy subject, as me and you are friends...

However, I can't with hold my opinion any longer...

I'm a non-believer in ADHD.

I'll  be more than glad to invest in a friendly debate with you...

Interesting to note FB, you have the same 'tick' as me.. I'm going to use your method, the 'blue' one..

ETA: You should have questioned their integrity long ago..

[zorgon]

what channel were yoiu watching?..most of that stuff winds up on youie t.. 

Not sure  it was supposed to be Forensic Files but CNN live over road it I can check tonight. They were also covering the Olympic athlete murder case

[spacemaverick]

http://intellihub.com/investigators-soon-bring-closure-flight-370-families/

It seems they may be trying to bring closure based on CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE (electronic evidence) instead of cold hard physical verified evidence (my words).  The clicking or pulse they have been hearing are not the exact same frequency of the black boxes.  Well that kind of evidence would not stand up in a court of law.  Once again show me the hard evidence.

MH370 investigators will likely soon come to a conclusion based on electronic evidence

By Shepard Ambellas

(INTELLIHUB) In a recent press conference held for the missing Malaysian airliner MH370, Angus Houston, Australian Chief of Defense Force Air Chief Marshal, announced that at least 4 electronic transmissions (pings) were thought to have been received by the Australian Defense vessel Ocean Shield in recent days.

Although the 75,000 km search zone is rather large, Houston remains confident that search crews are on the right track as they have started to focus on a more specific swath, a much more "manageable search area on the ocean floor". Of the four transmissions, Houston pointed out that two were detected for at least 5 seconds.

The decision to scour a smaller portion of the ocean floor was made after search crews confirmed from a data analysis that signals were detected bearing a distinct "33.331 kHz" that was "constantly pulsing" at 1.106 second intervals. Experts from the Australian Joint Acoustic Analyst Center in South Whales conclude that the source of the signal was not of "natural origin" and was "sourced from specific electronic equipment", i.e. a black box.

Houston also stated during the press conference, "For the sake of the 239 families, this absolutely is imperative" to bring closure.

However some, including family members of the missing, are still questioning the validity of the information as no debris from the plane has been found as of yet.

I am not an expert regarding searches but here would have been my plan;  Instead of placing all my assets in one area I would perform a grid search of each map grid by 2 assets.  I would start by laying out the range of the aircraft by fuel on board and this would tell me which grid squares would have to be searched.  assets with shorter range would search close in and assets with longer range of course would be further out.  When assets would complete a grid square they would be moved to the next and so on.  This would give you a systematic coverage of the ocean in a shorter time.  The quicker you get your assets on scene the better chance you have of finding floating debris.  The hard evidence will at least give you some immediate feedback as to whether the aircraft in question had indeed crashed.  Having worked in a plant that provided wing parts and floor beams and another plant that produced landing gears...each part is traceable back to the first operator that applied tooling to it.  Part numbers and some larger parts serialized will tell you what type of aircraft and for the serialized parts can be traced to a particular aircraft.  This is what I call hard evidence.

Going back to my law enforcement career...we were taught how to deploy our assets and different type of search patterns and these allowed us to cover a larger area sooner when time was of the essence.  I believe if these guidelines had been utilized by the Malaysian government immediately we would know something of substance regarding the aircraft.

The Malaysian government or airline still has not revealed what is on the cargo manifest and this tends to bring up a red flag  Still too many questions left unanswered.

[sky otter]

ok.. so i know i shouldn't ..but that dang sense of humor is pushing hard

psssssssssssssssssssssstttttttttt

hey what if all the pings.. you know the 600 miles apart ones..
what if they are pings form the mil i tar y installations down there

?  ?   ?  ?  ?

or..


what if it is

ET city

or

merman central

or

atlantis

the sad part is we will never know


sigh

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

A GOLDEN post there mate, i agree with you. Certainly all those parts are numbered & well documented, i used to make parts for the Fokker airbus. Traceability in case of an accident

I still think maybe it never crashed, Diego Garcia is in the area.....

And then there's the cargo manifest, i don't believe it was gold, the kind of clout needed to pull this off is done by organisations that have no interest in money, they have plenty

So if it never crashed, what happened to all those peeps?
That raises the scary thought that they were bumped off
And if so, what, or who, was on that plane that would be worth knocking off 239 people?
It's a sick & highly insane world we are in, thats for sure...........

Oh yes the pings....at 33.331 Khz?
Dolphins having fun is my guess...........

[spacemaverick]

ok.. so i know i shouldn't ..but that dang sense of humor is pushing hard

psssssssssssssssssssssstttttttttt

hey what if all the pings.. you know the 600 miles apart ones..
what if they are pings form the mil i tar y installations down there

?  ?   ?  ?  ?

or..


what if it is

ET city

or

merman central

or

atlantis

the sad part is we will never know


sigh

What if your right!  New mystery?   

[spacemaverick]

A GOLDEN post there mate, i agree with you. Certainly all those parts are numbered & well documented, i used to make parts for the Fokker airbus. Traceability in case of an accident

I still think maybe it never crashed, Diego Garcia is in the area.....

And then there's the cargo manifest, i don't believe it was gold, the kind of clout needed to pull this off is done by organisations that have no interest in money, they have plenty

So if it never crashed, what happened to all those peeps?
That raises the scary thought that they were bumped off
And if so, what, or who, was on that plane that would be worth knocking off 239 people?
It's a sick & highly insane world we are in, thats for sure...........

Oh yes the pings....at 33.331 Khz?
Dolphins having fun is my guess...........

Thank you...it sure has me wondering...this whole mystery smells bad to me...

[The Seeker]

I have a question: I seem to recall that initial reports stated that flight 370 climbed above it's service ceiling before dropping to a lower altitude; my question is, if the cabin could sustain necessary oxygen levels at that altitude and can the emergency o2 system be switched off...

not a pretty thought, but might explain what happened to the passengers...

Is just my personal opinion and feeling that we will never know what really transpired aboard flight 370...


seeker

[Fruitbat]

The media  said that a passenger aeroplane hit the pentagon, when plainly one did not.

YET the authorities produced body parts later from the passengers by way of "proof" that a passenger jet hit the pentagon.

Why does any one find the idea of these poor 239 (I keep thinking of PU239 when I hear that number.) passengers being bumped off if it suits someone's "big plan" even remotely unlikely?

You just KNOW they don't give a hoot about the little people...

FB

[spacemaverick]

I have a question: I seem to recall that initial reports stated that flight 370 climbed above it's service ceiling before dropping to a lower altitude; my question is, if the cabin could sustain necessary oxygen levels at that altitude and can the emergency o2 system be switched off...

not a pretty thought, but might explain what happened to the passengers...

Is just my personal opinion and feeling that we will never know what really transpired aboard flight 370...


seeker

A question that's starting to haunt me also.  I will have to dig to find that answer.  I did run across an article like that somewhere.  The only thing that would bother me is both pilots would have to be in on that if it was manually shut off.  I don't know about the flight deck controls so I cannot answer that question with any intelligence.  I will dig for the answer.

[spacemaverick]

Flight 370 effort could soon shift from search to recovery

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/04/09/flight-370-effort-could-soon-shift-from-search-to-recovery/?cmpid=edpick&google_editors_picks=true

The following is from FOX News Asia...I didn't see a copyright so I will post the text here.

The team of international investigators hunting for Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 has "unquestionably" located the missing jetliner and could soon have high resolution images of the wreck site, an expert in deep sea recoveries of ships and planes told FoxNews.com.

There is virtually no chance that the pings picked up by ships towing sophisticated listening devices could be anything other than signals emitted by the plane's flight data recorder, or "black box," David Mearns, of Blue Water Recoveries, a United Kingdom-based company that holds the Guinness World Record for the deepest ocean recovery and has assisted searches for sunken planes.

See above link for rest of the story...it won't let me copy and paste...but it explains what has been done...why...and what they are doing and why....and what they plan to do.  An Australian gentleman has been heading up this search and he is good from what I can see.  By that I mean he is systematic in his methodology.  Once again show me some parts that can be traced!