Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

[spacemaverick]

There is a poll at the top for those interested in what they think happened.

[Senduko]

Well look at that, 50/50; I say deliberately diverted to another country, and my gut tell's me we will be seeing it agaiin... One day;

[spacemaverick]

http://beforeitsnews.com/international/2014/04/international-investigators-mh370-landed-didnt-crash-into-ocean-2480836.html

This article makes certain assertions about the pings and transmissions that would prove that the plane landed.  Can anyone confirm this information? (the 7th ping?)

I haven't heard or come across anything regarding a 7th ping.  But I have seen other sources claiming that 370 was landed either in the Pakistan area or Diego Garcia.  These claims appear to have different sources and not one single source.  Of course this might be a ploy just to confuse people.  Don't know.

[ArMaP]

http://beforeitsnews.com/international/2014/04/international-investigators-mh370-landed-didnt-crash-into-ocean-2480836.html

This article makes certain assertions about the pings and transmissions that would prove that the plane landed.  Can anyone confirm this information? (the 7th ping?)

I don't think Before It's News as a good source, after all they are the ones that publish Sorcha Faal's "articles".

[ArMaP]

Compare the above to the General's claim that the plane might be in Pakistan.

The biggest problem I see with that Pakistan hypothesis is that I think that India controls the traffic entering Pakistan from India, and they would notice an unexpected aeroplane exiting India and entering Pakistan.

[spacemaverick]

And yet another theory.....



From a gentleman on liveleak.com...maybe a plausible explanation...you be the judge.

Equipment stolen from the US in Afghanistan and being sold to the highest bidder (China supposedly) and it was part of the cargo on MH 370.  This equipment used to control US drones......

[Eighthman]

I'm not saying that the plane landed in Pakistan. I'm saying that the knee-jerk response by some in regard to the plane being in Pakistan (unlikely) "tips the poker hand" of the military elite.  They need enemies to justify maintaining the military-industrial in the face of Congress.  Just in case Ukraine isn't enough.

Yes, "Before" is a junkpile, not unlike Rense but I would like to know where this 7th ping stuff came from and is it true? 

There is also a rumor (from Russia) that the truth about Flight 370 could have devastating economic effects - perhaps because if a plane can be remotely hijacked - public knowledge of that could be a disaster.

[Just Looking]

Re that Liveleak video I would be very very surprised if such sensitive equipment would even be allowed to leave the U.S. and if it was it would have been much better guarded.

[The Matrix Traveller]

I'm not saying that the plane landed in Pakistan. I'm saying that the knee-jerk response by some in regard to the plane being in Pakistan (unlikely) "tips the poker hand" of the military elite.  They need enemies to justify maintaining the military-industrial in the face of Congress.  Just in case Ukraine isn't enough.

Yes, "Before" is a junkpile, not unlike Rense but I would like to know where this 7th ping stuff came from and is it true? 

There is also a rumor (from Russia) that the truth about Flight 370 could have devastating economic effects - perhaps because if a plane can be remotely hijacked - public knowledge of that could be a disaster.

if a plane can be remotely hijacked

IMHO More likely than Not ......   

This is why I pointed out software issues involving "Flight Maintenance Programs" in an earlier post.   

If such Software was hijacked, then this does leave us all with great concern.

The most vulnerable time being during the purchase and supply of such.


Such Contracts involving software took place in March this year.

ArMap says NOT so.... based on his interpretation of the software provided.

Yes I may be mistaken but I don't think so .... going by past experience in business.

I say.... one should look deeper.... to see exactly what was being supplied in this package.

Note; It was also supplied by an Indian Branch of Ramco ....

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/03/prweb11632556.htm

Subang, Malaysia / Chennai, India (PRWEB UK) 3 March 2014

Malaysia Airlines today announced a strategic partnership with Chennai based Ramco Systems,
an IT solutions provider, for a suite of critical enterprise-wide engineering solutions that includes
aircraft maintenance, maintenance service sales, operational, human resources and financial functions.

This advanced solution which integrates business processes and people, company-wide,
will serve the entire engineering functions for Malaysia Airlines group including Firefly,
MASwings and MASkargo, and also support its Maintenance, Repair and Overhaul (MRO) services.

The implementation allows Malaysia Airlines to operate state-of-the-art aviation business processes
to improve and optimise fleet management and give advance updates on MRO
and engineering matters[/u, facilitating decision-making on both desk-top and mobile devices.

My thoughts involves IT Services;

Exactly to what extent does the software actually involve, in "Aircraft Maintenance Programs",
as this involves flight recording of "Systems Performance", and to what level do "Ground Support"
(engineers) have contact with these systems while the aircraft is in flight ?

I mean if performance (Mechanical) can be perfected or even improved more $$$$$$ are made.

So how these systems behave during flight, are very important !

I would guess changes can be made while the aircraft is in flight ?

[ArMaP]

ArMap says NOT so.... based on his interpretation of the software provided.

Yes I may be mistaken but I don't think so .... going by past experience in business.

Based on my interpretation and my experience with programs like that, although not as a user but as someone that analysed that type of software for the possibility of making one in the company where I work.

[spacemaverick]

Search area now 80% covered and nothing...

[spacemaverick]

Missing plane mystery solved?


Two former high-level insiders may have solved two of the mysteries surrounding the disappearance of Malaysian Flight 370:

What caused the plane to suddenly fly off-course? And why are all of the governments involved covering up the truth?

Had MH 370 crashed in the ocean, it would have left a huge, easily-visible debris field. Countries with satellite surveillance systems, and their partners, know exactly where the plane went. Boeing and its engine-manufacturer Rolls Royce also know, since planes and engines have GPS systems. (You can buy a GPS system for a little over $50 in the US; it would be naive to think a $320 million aircraft doesn't have one.) Even the INMARSAT satellite "pings" that we have been told can only sweep a broad arc of possible locations could in reality be used to locate the aircraft with some precision, due to the fact that radio transmissions vary in signatures according to time of day, sunspots, and so on. The "hunt for the airliner" peddled to the mainstream media is clearly a charade.

So what are all of the major players – both in governments and the aircraft industry – working so hard to hide?

Matthias Chang, a barrister who served as Political Secretary to Malaysian Prime Minister Dr. Mahathir Mohamad, explained during an exclusive Truth Jihad Radio interview that only a remote-hijacking fly-by-wire scenario can explain the plane's disappearance. Chang's views were confirmed by Gene "Chip" Tatum, a former Special Forces Air Combat Controller and US Army special operations pilot who has carried out ultra-sensitive missions at the direct orders of US Presidents.

Chang says the Malaysian government has been given sealed evidence by one or more foreign governments concerning the fate of MH-370. As a condition of receiving that evidence, Malaysia is not allowed to divulge it.

Matthias Chang is familiar with the highest levels of power in Malaysia. He presumably has some idea of what is in the sealed evidence. But if he did know, he could not say it directly.

Maybe that is why Matthias Chang recently sent an email to MH-370 investigators in the alternative media with a "hint":

"WHAT IF THE DISAPPEARANCE OF MH 370 IS SUCH THAT IF THE TRUTH BE KNOWN AS TO HOW IT HAPPENED IT WOULD NOT ONLY BE A SECURITY ISSUE, IT WOULD ALSO HAVE A GLOBAL IMPACT ON THE WORLD'S ECONOMY. 'THINGS' (USED IN A BROAD SENSE, AND SO YOU HAVE TO THINK WHAT 'THINGS' THAT) WOULD COME TO A COMPLETE HALT, ALMOST A COMPLETE SHUT DOWN."

What "things" would "come to a complete halt" and badly damage the world economy if the truth about MH-370 were told?

Chip Tatum thinks those "things" are commercial airplanes. In our interview Friday night, Tatum suggested that the current generation of airliners' fly-by-wire systems are extremely vulnerable to catastrophic sabotage, including electronic hijacking. 

Tatum called the alleged search for the aircraft "a smokescreen... They're keeping the media busy in the South Indian Ocean while things are being done in other areas. I think the government doesn't want us to know what they know because they don't think we can handle the truth." 

But what could that truth possibly be? Tatum explains: "If it were known that something is that easily hijacked by remote control, people would stop flying. And then you're talking about a huge impact on business and everything else."

So when Matthias Chang says that the truth about MH-370 would cause "things" to come to a complete halt, he is presumably referring to commercial air traffic. I asked Chang point blank if this was true. He did not deny it. But rather than confirm this hypothesis – which may be off-limits to direct discussion due to its inclusion in the sealed evidence Malaysia has been given – Chang directed me to his most recent article at FutureFastForward.com citing evidence that new technology allows planes to be flown from the ground.

Chip Tatum speculates that a bright teenager with a laptop and a cell phone could hack into commercial aircraft fly-by-wire systems. He explains that in newer aircraft, cables driven by pilot controls have been replaced by computers sending electronic signals. While technologies have been patented for protecting these fly-by-wire systems – notably US Patent #8,391,493, which the US government immediately "disappeared" from Patent Office records by invoking the Invention Secrecy Act – they apparently have not yet been implemented. If Tatum is right, commercial aircraft currently flying are wide-open for remote hijacking.

The scenario outlined by Chang and Tatum explains how MH370 was hijacked, and why all the major players are covering up the truth. But it does not explain who remote-hijacked MH370 and why.

One clue: Tatum provides evidence for the possible involvement of the CIA-based Bush crime family in the cover-up. The fake satellite trail to the remote and dangerous Southern Indian Ocean, a gigantic red herring, was fabricated by INMARSAT – whose largest owner, Harbinger Capital, is the new name for George H.W. Bush's notorious Zapata Corporation.

Even more of this story at the link......

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/04/22/359566/missing-plane-mystery-solved/

[WarToad]

I could see if remote hijacking is possible, they not only don't want that info out to scare passengers away, but also all the suddenly interested criminal minds figuring out how to exploit this for multiple purposes. That's the scary part.  The exploit goes viral.

(Edit - Words.  Hard.)

[The Matrix Traveller]

I could see if remote hijacking is possible, they not only don't want that info out to scare passengers away, but also all the suddenly interested criminal minds figuring out how to exploit this for multiple purposes. That's the scary part.  The exploit goes viral.

(Edit - Words.  Hard.)

I go along with your thinking WarToad 100% and what spacemaverick reported in his last Post !

Keep up the good work I think you are on Track crazy as it might sound to some.

ArMap I hope you are right.... but I have this horrible feeing, you are overlooking something,
but then I can also be completely wrong about this.   

I still think there has been a "Remote Hijacking" of the Aircraft at some point through
"Remote In Flight Tuning " !

[spacemaverick]

I go along with your thinking WarToad 100% and what spacemaverick reported in his last Post !

Keep up the good work I think you are on Track crazy as it might sound to some.

ArMap I hope you are right.... but I have this horrible feeing, you are overlooking something,
but then I can also be completely wrong about this.   

I still think there has been a "Remote Hijacking" of the Aircraft at some point through
"Remote In Flight Tuning " !

I wish it hadn't disappeared at all for the sake of those on board because whatever has happened, they are the one to pay the price.  The countries withholding information should put it out there.  I still say remotely controlled and diverted but we'll never know.