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Jim Oberg's "99 FAQs About Space UFO Videos"

Started by JimO, April 20, 2014, 04:54:19 AM

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deuem

To all, this tether is a very small wire assembly. This is a cross section from Wiki. Rather it is 1/10 of an inch or an inch in diameter it is still very small. So this is what we are looking at from 46 to 80 nm in space and from over 160 miles from Earth.



I did run Math on the photo. I ran 4 tethers and got the same results.




I still say there is no way to see this wire from Earth unless it is glowing. Hey the numbers don't lie, your eyes will. If there is one thing we have all proven here is that what your eyes see and reality sees, ie a camera can be very different. We can't even see half as good as the other animals on our own planet. Why would anyone not understand this.

Even different camera eyes see different things that is why we invent them. We do the same for sound. I can't hear a whale half way around the world but they can.

If you really want to chalk it up to camera noise then you maybe fooling your self. In the night time tether it is a quarther of a mile wide. Can your eyes see noise? Even NASA said it glowed at night. This is why I am going with the math for now. It is a standard you might believe over your eyes.

Do I really think that a wire 12 miles away the is just sitting there puttering like a wore out light bulb would have enough power in it to blow through a crystal 10 meters away. NEVER!

I like doing the math, you should try it.

So there is one example right on this page saying it is from .3 miles to 1.03 miles wide. Any comments?

deuem

Quote from: JimO on May 15, 2014, 09:40:22 PM
How come all the eyeballs that were ever turned on it, from orbit and from the surface, including my own,  only saw a thread-thin gleaming line?

How should I believe, you, or my lying eyes?

Can't you even conceive of the 'thickness' being an artifact of the camera?

We have proved time and again that the eyes are not capable of seeing things that cameras do. Your eyes are not lying to you, your brain is just filling in details with fluff so it has an answer. Brains don't like missing fluff. Your eyes were not designed to see tethers glowing. They were designed to see food and avoid being eaten. So where you say lying, I say they have reached their limits and that's OK. If we could see everything then we would not need the Hubble. And back when the STS was up there they did not have the tech we have today so we have an advantage over them. To see things differently. Why would you fight progress? Are you stuck in that time frame? For ever?  Did you ever even once measure that thin gleaming line? Or just believe what others told you. Maybe the Math is lying. Could be!

And just for the record, I did not use any of the photos where I consider it to be blooming. I used all far shots. As far as the camera could get away from it . On extreme close ups I do see a bloom effect that would make it more like 3 to 5 miles wide. So I did not go there. YET!

So unless you want to change your mind about the 12 miles. Fact #2) 12 miles by .3 miles and glowing in the sun up to at least 1.03 miles.


Unless anyone wants to give me another number I will be using a 1 inch diameter ice crystal for the next math part. Even at 1 inch that is fairly large but if it works at that size it should work at others. I have not found reference to flat crystals yet. If NASA has that let me know. Other wise I am looking through a marble in space and not a snow flake. NASA has been showing us pretty vids from space where they float water around and it is always a ball, never flat. But maybe when it hits space it goes 2D. Any comment on that?
Ok?

deuem

Quote from: Elvis Hendrix on May 15, 2014, 10:01:49 PM
Why are we caring about the thickness. Is that your theme here?
Because behind is behind.
And those animate forms were there. Behind the tether on NASA camera.
However you spin it .
And they look alive to me.
Why can't you conceive that.
Because it's space?
And nothing lives in space?
Why not Jim?
Tell me the math why no living organism cannot evolve anywhere.
Like sulphur pits in the Mariana Trench 6 miles down in the Pacific Ocean.
Life is everywhere. The sky and the sea are all made of the same building blocks.
Carbon and oxygen buddy... There's no stopping it...

Nice one Elvis. And to make things better for you, This area up there is not yet what we call truly space. It is the ionosphere. They are not gravity free, they are in constant free fall and they produce a space sonic boom from every leading edge. There is air there and other chemicals. So the soup has a lot of goodies in it. Very small goodies.

Elvis, I have seen these things flying down and up from Earth in many vids. On a concept I have for you. I would like to introduce my cat fish in my fish tank. They don't breath the water, they just live in it. From a few minutes to almost an hour sometimes they blast up to the surface and grab a mouth of air and then return to the depths to eat and play. Turtles, whales, dolphins and many other creatures do this also. They live in one environment and breath in another.

So the "Crystal Critters" seem to do this also but just in the other direction. Space is nice and safe yet they need to feed and breath so they go down, not up to do this. It is an idea at least. And maybe Jet airliners do hit critters in the air all the time and just say it was a pocket of hard air. We hit something so hard one time it turned the craft. Hard enough for the pilots to come racing down the aisle and toss me out of my seat and look over the wing. I saw fear in their eyes. When we landed, ground crews went straight to the wing. We were a little over 35K feet at the time. What ever we hit spun the nose to the right a few degrees maybe 5 to 10 and lifted up the right wing about 20 to 30 degrees. And it also made a very large noise as we hit. A large boom!. Yea that flight was fun.

Yet if there are millions of them up there there might be enough with a population explosion to start blocking out sunlight or eating things that keep the heat out/in that they can change the world below them. Cause warming or an Ice age and that may be the secrete why they never say anything about them. Like frog tad poles that explode every where and take over as frogs and eat everything until they die off and then it starts all over. Many insects do this. Like locust. If the feed is good they just keep on making little critters until the sky is full of them. So did critters kill the dinos?  :P

Maybe they chem trail to keep them out. Taint the food. lol anything is possible...........

deuem

From ArMaP
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Funny how nobody tells me why do they think the objects pass behind the tether. Isn't one person here that is capable of analysing their perceptions and understand why they see what they see?

Interesting. :)


And we could say just as easy,

Funny how you can not tell us why you think the objects pass in front the tether. Are you the one person here that is capable of analysing perceptions and understanding why you see what you see?

Not Interesting. :)

Your a smart guy, lay it out for us and prove what you say. We will read.

deuem

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on May 16, 2014, 02:46:23 AM
TMT  Quote;

Its hidden in the Shape of the Contours ..... :)

Here is an abstract ....


Nice, and when the object in the rear goes much brighter that the front, like a car head light on a wire. I get this.



Matrix. If the light is behind i always get a disturbance in the force And the gradients break their consistancy. If they are in front they are always nice and consistant, no breaks, gaps or morsis code lines. As I would expect them to be. Stick anything in the way like a tiny tree branch and it is enough to screw things up for light. Even if I get a 100% wrap over I also get problems with the rings. Never clean.

I did a very bright UFO once for a friend who filmed it and he said, he swore it was on this side of the transmission lines. After running it, I found a thin line running right through the UFO light.

The Matrix Traveller

Quote from: deuem on May 16, 2014, 04:43:04 AM

Nice, and when the object in the rear goes much brighter that the front, like a car head light on a wire. I get this.



Matrix. If the light is behind i always get a disturbance in the force And the gradients break their consistancy. If they are in front they are always nice and consistant, no breaks, gaps or morsis code lines. As I would expect them to be. Stick anything in the way like a tiny tree branch and it is enough to screw things up for light. Even if I get a 100% wrap over I also get problems with the rings. Never clean.

I did a very bright UFO once for a friend who filmed it and he said, he swore it was on this side of the transmission lines. After running it, I found a thin line running right through the UFO light.

Bingo !

You are correct... Everything has an inner and outer ! One can NOT exist without the other !

So by studying the Outers (Profiles) you should be able to see what is in front of what.

Elvis Hendrix

Quote from: deuem on May 16, 2014, 04:11:22 AM

Nice one Elvis. And to make things better for you, This area up there is not yet what we call truly space. It is the ionosphere. They are not gravity free, they are in constant free fall and they produce a space sonic boom from every leading edge. There is air there and other chemicals. So the soup has a lot of goodies in it. Very small goodies.

Elvis, I have seen these things flying down and up from Earth in many vids. On a concept I have for you. I would like to introduce my cat fish in my fish tank. They don't breath the water, they just live in it. From a few minutes to almost an hour sometimes they blast up to the surface and grab a mouth of air and then return to the depths to eat and play. Turtles, whales, dolphins and many other creatures do this also. They live in one environment and breath in another.

So the "Crystal Critters" seem to do this also but just in the other direction. Space is nice and safe yet they need to feed and breath so they go down, not up to do this. It is an idea at least. And maybe Jet airliners do hit critters in the air all the time and just say it was a pocket of hard air. We hit something so hard one time it turned the craft. Hard enough for the pilots to come racing down the aisle and toss me out of my seat and look over the wing. I saw fear in their eyes. When we landed, ground crews went straight to the wing. We were a little over 35K feet at the time. What ever we hit spun the nose to the right a few degrees maybe 5 to 10 and lifted up the right wing about 20 to 30 degrees. And it also made a very large noise as we hit. A large boom!. Yea that flight was fun.

Yet if there are millions of them up there there might be enough with a population explosion to start blocking out sunlight or eating things that keep the heat out/in that they can change the world below them. Cause warming or an Ice age and that may be the secrete why they never say anything about them. Like frog tad poles that explode every where and take over as frogs and eat everything until they die off and then it starts all over. Many insects do this. Like locust. If the feed is good they just keep on making little critters until the sky is full of them. So did critters kill the dinos?  :P

Maybe they chem trail to keep them out. Taint the food. lol anything is possible...........

Love it.. Gold.
"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration – that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
B H.

Elvis Hendrix

I imagine they exist in many shapes, sizes and forms.






And are maybe only visible in certain light spectrums.








Just living and feeding and going about there business like any other invertebrate.







Except they are in the blackness of space.





And maybe at all altitudes but are out of our visible range.








They seem to be very similar to Amoeba in form.
Here are some to compare..









Similar don't you think?

Elvis.
"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration – that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
B H.

Sinny

"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

Elvis Hendrix

"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration – that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
B H.

The Matrix Traveller

Keep looking Elvis... Good work.

You no doubt will find even more, and perhaps that Some are Studying these ...  :)

Elvis Hendrix

"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration – that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
B H.

Elvis Hendrix

"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration – that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
B H.

deuem

Elvis, The first Amoeba print you posted processed very similar to what I am getting in space. Just missing the hole and the notch. But the signatures are what I might call family. How strange.
Nice work up.

Elvis Hendrix

"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration – that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
B H.