Jim Oberg's "99 FAQs About Space UFO Videos"

[ArMaP]

Maybe I should try this again.

I will also try it again, but I have to look for more data to see if I can explain what I'm thinking about.

[ArMaP]

This isn't the PDF I think I saw some time ago, but it says something relevant for this case.

Skylab Contamination Study:  Since John Glenn reported seeing "fireflies" outside the tiny window of his Mercury spacecraft Friendship 7 a decade ago, space crews have noted light-scattering particles that hinder visual, observations as well as photographic tasks.  These clouds of particles surrounding spacecraft generally are from water dumps and escaping cabin gases changing into ice crystals.
The phenomenon could be of concern in the Skylab missions during operation of the solar astronomy experiments.  The light scattering from a 100-micron particle 13 kilometers (7.8 miles) away from the spacecraft, for example, is as bright as a third-magnitude star.  A cloud of particles with such a light-scattering effect would rule out any astronomical experiments being conducted on the sunlit portion of an orbit.

[ArMaP]

A PDF about PHOTOMETRIC ANALYSIS OF A SPACE SHUTTLE WATER VENTING that has some references to the size of the ice particles (around 1 mm).

Another PDF about the same experiment.

Still looking.

[deuem]

ArMaP. your second link PDF

Another PDF about the same experiment.

is damaged. Did you dowload it? If so please email it to me. I can't get it from here when broke or damaged, Thanks

[JimO]

Here's what I got done today on the video transcript of tether related comments/views. Does anybody have any alternate interpretations of what the crew is saying/seeing?

Video 1

00:00 
00:56       TOPS night scene oblique, passing cities
07:08      PLB cam, night cloud cover, horizon, possibly moonlit,
R to L motion, star slowly sets in upper left
11:14      black
11:46      Experimental apparatus
      Playback cued up, 'let me check with INCO'
12:35      Resume exterior view
12:40      Playback, "OK, here it comes."
17:30      "That about does it"
18:42      black
19:14      "Columbia, Houston, download..."
19:42      Dark horizon, level, l to r motion, thunderstorms, setting stars
22:05      Change camera, horizon now near vertical;  bright stars [Pleiades?],  lightning
23:20      More; small dots appear mid-rt center fov,  moving right to left
      CAM PANS BRIEFLY
24:36      Change cam, view aft, sunglint on tail, left wing and left plb sill in view
24:50      Pan right to view sunrise horizon
25:21      Hoffman: "Houston, Columbia, regarding the tether sightings.."
      "Yessir, Jeff".
      "Just want to remind you, uh,, we do have nearly a full moon, and we have two image intensifiers on board, .. aah. that can be hooked to TV at the top, and the astro scope, so even if  we make a close approach during the night and not at sunrise or sunset, there still -- we still may have a fighting chance of seeing it. ...
25:56      "OK, we understand, thank you."
26:34      "Columbia, Houston, Z-O-E in two minutes, we'll get you back at 6:25, and we'll have a flight note for you on your various camera options as well as the viewing.times, coming up shortly."
26:51      "People are very busy working up all these payload deltas, and the TSS viewing.  And we'll get them up as soon as they're mature."
      "OK, we'll talk to you in ten minutes."
27:00      "Yeah, FDO is tracking the TSS and its trajectory or drag model is very hard to pin down, and the estimates keep changing, we'll try to give you the latest data and the times to go along those.
27:15      "OK, we understand the difficulties and we know everybody will do their best, we'll see what we can get.
27:20      "We're looking forward to it."
27:30      "Jeff, it turns out the satellite and tether's C-G has a very low radar cross section, it's difficult to pin down.
27:43      "Understand.
28:41        black

[ArMaP]

ArMaP. your second link PDF  is damaged. Did you dowload it? If so please email it to me. I can't get it from here when broke or damaged, Thanks

Sent.

[deuem]

Jim, Ok this goes with tape 1 and the numbers are close enough for me. Later after 40 min he goes to a hand held camera. At the end he powered up C&D with Hustons numbers so we are going into vid 2 with them both on.

We really need to understand which lenses where attached to C&D. This makes all the difference. Do you have that info at your finger tips? Also did you fix part B yet. If so, can you re-post a new link.

While he was filming by hand I saw no crystals or critters. He is filming through (6 panes ?) of glass. And he said that one of them was very dirty. Should pull up to a gas station and have them wash the windows.   In vid 1 there is a section where there are a lot of objects going right to left. They appear to be leaving Earth after a night out on the town and returning to space. This section needs to be looked at in detail. (reminder to self)

continue please.

[deuem]

Sent.

Ok got it and your reason why is most likely true for not getting it.

Ok, Both of these report are very intense and need a lot of reading to understand what they are reporting. printed them out to read later.
If you guys can pin point the lenses on what cameras, it would help a lot. Off to start reading.

[deuem]

C & D camera locations. These are the cameras reported to have done the outside filming.

D camera is located in the cargo bay on the right wing side near the crew cabin.

C camera is 100 feet aft in the cargo bay, same side as D camera, near the tail.

Need to figure out what lenses where on these cameras.

Unless these cameras have lens rotational axis tilt, the bottom of the frame should relate to the floor of the cargo bay or the axis through the ship, flat with the wings. If they can rotate the lens then that data is needed also. Maybe it is in the numbers scrolling on the top of the vid that we can't see yet.

[deuem]

Hello, is anyboby still here or did the subject die? If not dead please remove this post.

[Flux]

Still very alive. I'm just sitting in the crowd arms crossed taking in all the info

[JimO]

Working on timeline, transcript, relative motion plot, and tracking down on-scene flight controllers.

[ArMaP]

To try to explain what I mean by things becoming translucent when out of focus, particularly when close to the camera while the camera is focused at a long distance or infinity, I made the following video, in which a pen I found many years ago becomes translucent when the camera is focused to the cars and the buildings some 80 metres behind it.




For those that cannot see the YouTube video, try this link to a Portuguese site and tell me if it works.
http://videos.sapo.pt/i8OmPGajulyWjB8UAlNS

[1967sander]

Um icecrystals huh ...

The whole ice crystal theory is crap and I will prove it. Already working on the footage. The real footage and not the poor VHS transfers. Yes, I have my sources too.

And now for something completely different: 

Let Jimbo explain this icecrystal for a change. Or anyone!

[ArMaP]

Um icecrystals huh ...

The whole ice crystal theory is crap and I will prove it. Already working on the footage. The real footage and not the poor VHS transfers. Yes, I have my sources too.

Do you have any evidence that it's the "real footage" or do you have to take your word for it?

And now for something completely different: 

And irrelevant for this discussion.