Jim Oberg's "99 FAQs About Space UFO Videos"

[ArMaP]

OK, I think it's time to get some direct answers, so here's one direct question to Jim Oberg:

Do you have in your possession, regardless of format and support, any videos of the tether that are not copies of those available on the Internet?
If you have, could you tell us where did you get them?

[JimO]

Here are excerpts from the NASA log of all downlink video and on-board 8-mm camera films, where post-break tether sightings are recorded. I'm not sure the format will be that readable, i can email it to somebody to post in the local archive, it's a pdf file.



   STS-75 VIDEOTAPE SCENELIST


GMT Day 061   MET Day 7

04:31:13   08:13:13   CMC   AOS TDRW VIDEO.  Orbit 118.  BEGIN VTR PLAYBACK.  LS/ Track TSS-1R at 150 nautical miles from Columbia.
04:32:48   08:14:48   CMC   CAM repositions.
04:33:36   08:15:36   CMC   LS/ Track TSS-1R at 150 nautical miles from Columbia.
04:36:57   08:18:57   CMC   CAM repositions.
04:37:33   08:19:33   CMC   LS/ Track TSS-1R at 150 nautical miles from Columbia.
04:39:46   08:21:46      LOS TDRW VIDEO.  END VTR PLAYBACK.
04:43:34   08:25:34   CMC   AOS TDRW VIDEO.  BEGIN VTR PLAYBACK.  LS/ Track TSS-1R at 150 nautical miles out. 
04:45:07   08:27:07   CMC   CAM repositions.
04:45:49   08:27:49   CMC   LS/ Track TSS-1R at 150 nautical miles from Columbia.
04:46:29   08:28:29      END VTR PLAYBACK. 


....   

05:11:29   08:53:29    MGBX   TAPE START.  TDRE.  Orbit 118.  CU/ FFFT test module. 
05:11:50   08:53:50   D   WS/ Night pass starfield view.
05:12:40   08:54:40   C   WS/ Night pass starfield view.  View switches between CAMs D and C giving WS/ Starfield views as the Crew looks for the TSS-1R satellite. 
05:22:41   09:04:41   C   Orbit 119.  WS/ Night pass starfield view.  View continues to switch between CAMs D and C. 
05:30:05   09:12:05   C   CAM repositions.  LS/ TSS-1R, with tether extended, visible at 113 nautical miles away from Columbia.  Debris visible. 
05:31:35   09:13:35   D   Glare.
05:31:38   09:13:38   C   LS/ TSS-1R.  Tether and debris visible.  Sunlight illuminates view.
05:32:59   09:14:59   C   Zoom in/out.  LS/ TSS-1R.  Debris visible.  Glare develops.  Iris down to dark FOV.
05:35:55   09:17:55   D   Glare.
05:36:01   09:18:01   C   LS/ TSS-1R barely visible in the center of the screen.  Glare. 
05:38:19   09:20:19      CAM turned off.  Black. 
05:39:16   09:21:16   A   Dark FOV.  Port side wing, sunglint and Earth limb visible in the lower FOV. 

...

07:01:40   10:43:40   D   Orbit 120.  WS/ Earth limb as sunrise begins.  Glare obscures view. 
07:02:06   10:44:06   C   WS/ Dark Earth limb.  LS/ TSS-1R faintly visible.
07:03:46   10:45:46   D   LS/ TSS-1R.  Glare obscure view.  Video levels change. 
07:20:09   11:02:09   A   WS/ Earth limb.  Visible in lower FOV.  FWD BKHD visible in the upper FOV. 


....

08:34:03   12:16:03   D   LS/ TSS-1R, 719 nautical miles away from Columbia.  Glare obscures view. 
08:37:09   12:19:09   D   High video levels.  View is washed out.  TSS-1R no longer visible. 
08:37:57   12:19:57      CAM turned off.

....
GMT Day 65    MET Day 11
19:52:10   23:34:10      VTR PLAYBACK BEGINS.  LS/ TSS-1R with tether extended visible in the upper left FOV. 
19:53:27   23:35:27      Glare develops and obscures view.
19:53:29   23:35:29      VTR PLAYBACK ENDS.


STS-75 H-8mm Onboard ID # 095
         SLATE: ID # 095  MET 1N 11/09:40  TEAC 2  TSS SIGHTING  MET 11/23/00
11:59:06      B   START ONBOARD.  WS/ Earth limb.  Moon in view.  CAM zooms in on the Moon. 
12:00:58      B   WS/ Earth limb.  Moonset.  CAM repositions. 
12:10:33         CAM turned off. 
12:10:41      D   CAM comes on-line.  WS/ Earth limb.  TSS-1R sighting.  TSS-1R drops below the horizon and out of sight. 

[JimO]

OK, I think it's time to get some direct answers, so here's one direct question to Jim Oberg:

Do you have in your possession, regardless of format and support, any videos of the tether that are not copies of those available on the Internet? If you have, could you tell us where did you get them?

Frankly, I'll have to go look. I haven't paid attention to them for years since I didn't see any issues of fact regarding the event that depended on additional taped scenes. I've been concentrating on obtaining mission documentation such as the Scene List and flight plan updates, crew and MCC personnel direct interviews,  stuff like that -- stuff that to the best of my knowledge, nobody around here ever showed any interest in.

I have never uploaded a video to the Internet in my life. I've always intended to someday learn how and obtain the proper software.

Why is that suddenly a bottleneck to a technical discussion of the event, such as the most basic of contextual facts, was it DAY or was it NIGHT?

The 'Scene List' and flight plan provide all the documentation anybody should need to answer THAT.

Is there anybody who wants to argue for Martyn's insistence the scene occurred at night? On what basis?

[Martyn Stubbs]

easynow, The points that are being re-cycled are Jim Os...Based on his own premises. But he & maybe even NASA do not have the whole 'tale of the tapes' !

And that is where the debunking has failed. Jim O knows this too. The 99FAQs are without foundation without the  video record. Just as a police officer might stop & chat with a person..or pick up something they need for dinner..this is not put in there daily report. That is the same as the astronauts. They (as the public written records show) record the official business but not the true moment by moment happenings. This was the case with the STS-63 Mir search..a disaster when UFOs appeared & everyone started calling them meteors!!!

These FAQs trying to debunk NASA video evidence of UFOs are even ignoring the science of photography!
This complete video record I have besides having an aesthetic appeal, is also important to the history of scientific photography & the science of our time.

The difference between Science & Art is intent. Visual scientists seek to alter their collective understanding by finding patterns that reveal the way nature works, using photographs, film & video as permanent records of their observations.

The NASA Images are a visual treasure!

This all began in 1839 at a meeting of the Academy of Sciences & "Art Science" was coined by astronomer Francois Arago. And scientists immediately used photography to see the invisible. They attached cameras to telescopes & microscopes, using magnification to reveal what was very far away or very small.  In fact the MOON was the 1st. celestial object to get photo attention . Harvard Observatory gained scientific acclaim in 1851 for its photographic scientific study.

Jim says a NASA UFO video study don't matter. In space the video record of these shuttle flights make their cameras view...' the true retina of the space scientist'. Their images allow the eye to distinguish objects & their behavior in the vacuum of space for the first time & open to the scrutiny of all.

The shuttle cameras have changed the way we all look at space at 200 miles up. We no longer see with our eyes alone, because we have absorbed the camera's frame perspective & sense of time into our consciousness.
(I like to call it Tele-science!)

So reports & interviews are not enough for any true "case closed" declarations by OCD like skeptic's FAQs .

To log  every second that NASA  put out..24/7 in these analogue days took an enormous amount of videotape. So I as manager went to our VCR "Bone Yard" & retrieved  perfectly good machines that were scraped by our technical dept. as proceedure demanded... after a set amount of tape passes.

The SVHS videotapes were also scraped after a set amount of use. So by putting together a vast wall of machines in my office I could program days ahead, & then let the VCRs do there thing. I just refilled tapes. The high quality versions we used held 6 hrs. each & a flight on average was a good 2 weeks or more.

I also had a spare giant dish amoung the cable co.s roof full of  'in use' dishes. (lucky me!)
I gathered up each days or weekends tapes & viewed them when I got home. And it was fun, amazing & for me, who directed hundreds of show..bringing in feeds & looking at 5 camers + live cut ins...well this was the chance of a lifetime to watch NASA handle these dynamics!

The UFOs were all a bonus!!! So from the STS-61 'save the HS Telescope'  mission.. through to the STS-80 fight.  I got every second of every space shuttle mission in between &
It took years, & every mission got better. Topography mapping downlinked live. Every  launch I could watch complete from every camera they used. Science experiments & on & on it went. So after the STS-8o mission I began to merely cherry pick sections...

& thus enter  the late Jeff Challender, & ..a contact I'll not name other than he was a DR.! Some out there will know who I mean. He said he would do further taping in my place & I asked him to send it to Jeff Challender who would view them. So Jeff started his Project Prove & we consulted on a regular basis.

Jeff was a pitbull & he clashed with me sometimes but just before he passed , he sent me all his tapes on every type of format ...including his entire website.   Jeff wanted his turn at this  topic & he wanted to debate Jim O on the newer evidence.And that he did!

The 99FAQs & the enormous debunking effort by Jim O (& many others) has failed over the last 14 years because of  so many videos getting released  & re-posted (Kudos to LunaCognita at You Tube)... with my OK to copy & repost, + the many yearly documentaries showing the tapes, including my own 'Secret NASA Transmissions' & Sereda's 'Evidence' at the very start (2000-2001). And ..big time.. right now in 2014,   it's due to  the  the real UFO community.. which includes this site as well as others.

In fact the only people who ignore me, Jim O & others posting on these sites are the "so called" UFO celebrities who populate the non free conferences & conventions around the world..the 'UFO Industry'

They are, to me, the same as those 'Tribute Bands' who play other peoples music...And they are storytellers weaving tales of NAZIs running a sinister space agency.  As Sheffield's Arctic Monkeys sang...
they are telling 'fake tales of San Francisco'!

[JimO]

Was the video under discussion, the STS-75 tether swarm, made at night or in daytime? I'm arguing it was daytime. Martyn has said it was a 'night pass'. Can we approach this technical question head on? It's critical to determining and contrasting the possible explanations for the brightness of the tether and the dots.

Thanks for the most detailed account of your video recording efforts I've ever seen, Martyn. That's a narrative for the record.

[Elvis Hendrix]

So Jim, with due respect, how are you liking Peggy? My god we've got you and Stubbs! On the tether!
Respect.
Elvis.

[JimO]

So Jim, with due respect, how are you liking Peggy? My god we've got you and Stubbs! On the tether!
Respect.
Elvis.

Anytime Martyn comes and posts, it's helpful in understanding the source of his point of view, and vice versa. He has provided a lot of new insights in recent days.

I still think it's important to determine whether the video under discussion was made in daylight or darkness. But apparently that view is not universal.

[ArMaP]

I have never uploaded a video to the Internet in my life. I've always intended to someday learn how and obtain the proper software.

And probably some hardware too, if you don't have digital copies.

Why is that suddenly a bottleneck to a technical discussion of the event, such as the most basic of contextual facts, was it DAY or was it NIGHT?

It's not, but I like to organize things.
If we are talking about one (or several) videos and one of the persons that is known to have (Martyn) doesn't want to post them I wanted to know if there are other versions not converted from the ones posted on the Internet.

And I wanted to know because, truth be told, most YouTube videos have a very low quality and resolution, even when compared with old video cameras, so if we can look at better versions why waste time discussing worse versions?

The 'Scene List' and flight plan provide all the documentation anybody should need to answer THAT.

The "Scene List" and the flight plan, although obviously related to the video, mean nothing if we don't have the video, as they do not replace the video, and even with the information from that documentation, the better the videos we have the better equipped we are to watch and try to understand what we see, with the help of that documentation.

[Martyn Stubbs]

zorgon...the bottom line may very well be that the tapes are showing us a new life form that lives in our skies ,unknown, yet it has always been there. This would make the videos the only way to study this. No reports would say this but the visual record would. And according to Trevor James Constable, that is exactly what some videos show.

I know that you are leaning this way.

An invisible biosphere, inhabited by a natural, organic lifeform. One that would lead us to a new source of energy. Jim O can not think outside the 'skeptical' box. It's a room he can't get out of.

The critters, or whatever we want to call them, are outside of  Jim O's box!! Outside is the borderlands, where we need to be..The tapes do matter.

[Martyn Stubbs]

 There is something going on in space that NASA doesn't want us to know about. I appreciate Jim Os intelligence & willingness to interact on this topic. He is a genuine American celebrity as the #1 space reporter & #1 skeptic. I first saw him on CNN in 1991 on Larry King Live debating the then editor/investigator for the U.S. UFO magazine.  Jim was the man & he triumphed. he was the toppermost!

And here he is, still on top. But I still don't agree with the skeptical premise, that UFOs do not exist. That spacecraft from other worlds do not exist. That organic space creatures do not exist...and therefor whatever the NASA videos show it is never a critter or craft. (no matter what). That is a locked box. So we can never debate with those restrictions. So this is not really a debate at all & we can all relax & have fun. This is supposed to be fun! Myself, I will consider all possibilities.

I do understand that Jim has made it clear that he is  someone we may be able to bounce ideas to here, on an informal basis, in order to check for obvious flaws. He does not challenge our integrity or intelligence due to our beliefs, & but  he will never share them. I get it!

[ArMaP]

And here he is, still on top. But I still don't agree with the skeptical premise, that UFOs do not exist. That spacecraft from other worlds do not exist. That organic space creatures do not exist...and therefor whatever the NASA videos show it is never a critter or craft. (no matter what). That is a locked box. So we can never debate with those restrictions. So this is not really a debate at all & we can all relax & have fun. This is supposed to be fun! Myself, I will consider all possibilities.

Well, I am a sceptic myself, and a sceptical position never denies any possibility, so yes, I know that UFOs exist (based on the definition of UFO, as there are many unidentified things seen in the sky), I think that spacecraft from other worlds may exist and I think that organic space creatures may be one explanation for some UFO cases, but I just don't accept things because someone says so, so I like to get as much evidence as possible.

Also, pointing to some esoteric explanation and ignoring other possibilities because they are not "outside the box" (an expression I never liked) is not an intelligent position, it's a close-minded position that it's just inside a different box, painted with "cooler" colours to make it look like a better position.

I like facts and data, that's why I want to know what videos exist, who has them and if they can be shared, what other data exists, who has it and if it can be shared.

[deuem]

I got 3 frames off 2 videos I have that are very low res and difficult to work with but I bet Jim coul supply them in a very clear format.. I will atempt to see if they are day light or night shots from the garbage I have. This is work in process and I will hold off my final say untill I have 3 perfect shots to work with besides multi generation video tapes from Utube. I think both of them cam from Martyn and put on line by Dave.

Deployment:  In full Sunlight





Breaking: In night with a possible hint of sun rise on the left. 90%+ light from teather and looks to be leaving a trail.






Swarm: In sunlight from the left. The tether looks to be casting a shadow also in space.





Nothing in any of the photos proves anything about the critters as of yet. It only looks like at this distance they are far away or very small nearby. If you look at pixel counts, they are very close to the tether counts. In conclusive at this point with these garbage photos.  Can one of you, hopefuly Jim pass on at least these 3 photos in a clear format photo?

[JimO]

Here's some data on the timing of the first fly-under, and what was going on.
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/missions/sts-75/sts-75-day-09-highlights.html

Columbia's astronauts had a clear view of the Tethered Satellite as the two spacecraft passed within about 46 nautical miles overnight. The closest approach occurred at 11:17 central time last night (approximately 7/08:59 MET), and was captured on videotape as the satellite and its 12-mile tether came into view.

Tethered Satellite System (TSS) "science of opportunity," during Columbia's final approach to within 46 nautical miles of the satellite, included firing the electron accelerators in Columbia's cargo bay. The electron guns' effects on the charged particles, electrical waves and magnetic fields around the satellite were detected by the Research on Electrodynamic Tether Effects, Research on Orbital Plasma Electrodynamics and Magnetic Field Experiment for TSS Mission's instruments mounted on the satellite. All three instrument teams reported receiving good quality data from the satellite, data which are now being analyzed by the experiment investigators.

[JimO]

STS-75 SPACE SHUTTLE MISSION REPORT
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19970001413.pdf

[snip]

The supply water and waste management systems performed nominally throughout the
mission. Supply water was managed through the use of the FES and overboard dump
systems. A total of 27 supply water dumps (four simultaneous with waste water dumps)
was performed nominally at an average dump rate of 1.54 percent/minute (2.54 Ib/min).
The line heater maintained the supply water dump line temperature within satisfactory
limits throughout the mission.

Waste water was gathered at approximately the predicted rate. Seven waste water
dumps (four simultaneous with supply water) were performed at an average rate of
1.96 percent/minute (3.23 Ib/min). All line and nozzle temperatures were maintained
within satisfactory limits throughout the mission.

[Flux]

LunaCognita NASA STS-75 "Tether Incident"
Very interesting from the 4:00 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_537620&feature=iv&src_vid=G4Xx66ba36o&v=Q2DVeil21gc