UFO sightings reported in NE China’s Heilongjiang

[rdunk]

Don't get excited, as these UFOs are not flying saucers!

These fireball UFOs actually hit the ground this week on China's Friday morning at 6:00 AM, and the investigation is just beginning.

Heilongjiang (ECNS)

Three unidentified flying objects were spotted falling from the sky and landing in two places in Heilongjiang province about 6:00 am Friday, Chinanews.com reported.

The Yi'an county government confirmed in the afternoon that Mengchang villagers heard a big noise and then saw a big ball of fire falling down to a vegetable garden belonging to a villager.

Photos taken by villagers showed that the object is a metal ball, half-covered by a layer with a jagged edge.

Two other similar objects were spotted falling from the sky and down to the neighboring Baiquan county.

The two places have been blocked off, and an investigation is underway.

The link for this article (covered above) is included below. The link does have pics, with a close-up of what they are calling a UFO - it is an unusual looking "object", with very specific features. My thought - may be more orbital "space trash"!

http://www.ecns.cn/cns-wire/2014/05-16/114433.shtml

[JimO]

Hello? Happens all the time:

http://space.io9.com/this-rocket-casing-is-weirdly-durable-1572823372

[deuem]

The only thing I think is wrong here is there is no impact crater. I bet he found it somewhere else and placed it in his garden to claim damage done. Unless this junk had a parachute with a nice soft landing in a tilled garden, I say. "Moved"

[COSMO]

I think it was a Russian rocket.  There is a claim that it was shot down.



http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2014/05/who-shot-down-russian-proton-m-rocket-advanced-satellite-video-video-2462758.html

Cosmo

[JimO]

The only thing I think is wrong here is there is no impact crater. I bet he found it somewhere else and placed it in his garden to claim damage done. Unless this junk had a parachute with a nice soft landing in a tilled garden, I say. "Moved"

Another swing and a miss, D. Falling spacecraft tanks rarely leave "craters", or even indentations of any size. There are dozens of photos from earlier falls, and they look exactly the same.

You are over-reaching your knowledge base of real spaceflight operations with an imagination of what 'ought' to be,  that has no attachment to experience or study, and it leads you astray.  And will keep doing so if you don't realize what is happening.

[The Matrix Traveller]

Another swing and a miss, D. Falling spacecraft tanks rarely leave "craters", or even indentations of any size. There are dozens of photos from earlier falls, and they look exactly the same.

Indeed JimO  You are 100% Correct !

Very Common occurrence...

[deuem]

Excuse me Jim but do you see any space in this photo? And do really think that, that metal ball can drop from a height of over arms reach and not impact the ground. Now I don't mean it would leave a crater like on the moon but it should have dug itself into the dirt more than is shown us. If this the way balls renter then the shuttle should have been round and just drop it in a corn field. Forget the shuttle wings and parachutes the Russians use on their balls. And if this is from the failed Russian launch, it never got into space. What 3rd stage I read. Then a UFO got it.This I got to see on the tapes.

This part was reported to have a fire trail behind it. It had to be moving rather fast for that to happen. And then just gently as a feather lands in this nice soft field and not make even the slightest indent in a tilled field. Ok if that is what you think, then I indeed know nothing.

[deuem]

On the back story that is in Chinese. 2 brothers were fishing in a small river by their house and the river has sloped sand banks. The fire ball hit the bank and put up a huge mushroom cloud that lasted 10 minutes in all. The impact made a crater 15 meters by 20 meters and moved some 300 square meter of sand and grass cover. The object inside was completely covered and had to be dug out. When it was found and cool enough the brothers moved it to their home and informed the authorities of the event. Seeing how that stretch of the river is either theirs or close to their home, they said it landed on their farm. 

If you look at the balls end on the ground, you can see it has been flatened out and no longer a nice ball. Yet the dirt is not even touched. I rest my case!

[rdunk]

A few things on this:

1. if you look closely, the "object" viewed closest in the pic does seem to have "stuff" (vegetation maybe) clinging to it around its jagged perimeter, as if it had hit the surface somewhere maybe.

2. Comparing the two pics we have in the OP link, these seem to be taken a 2 different places. The surface/ground seems to be very different in each pic.

3. Yes, they both do have a look of having been placed there, but I would think it very possible that where they are now might not be right at the impact points anyway. At low angles of impact these could hit like "skipping rocks", don't you think - that might result in a stopping place that showed no ground disruption.

4. These objects do not look "burned" to me, but I would think the side opposite from the "pointy feature would have been the incoming side, unless for reason it might have been "twirling".

[The Matrix Traveller]

On the back story that is in Chinese. 2 brothers were fishing in a small river by their house and the river has sloped sand banks. The fire ball hit the bank and put up a huge mushroom cloud that lasted 10 minutes in all. The impact made a crater 15 meters by 20 meters and moved some 300 square meter of sand and grass cover. The object inside was completely covered and had to be dug out. When it was found and cool enough the brothers moved it to their home and informed the authorities of the event. Seeing how that stretch of the river is either theirs or close to their home, they said it landed on their farm. 

If you look at the balls end on the ground, you can see it has been flatened out and no longer a nice ball. Yet the dirt is not even touched. I rest my case!

Now that changes things somewhat D, if their story is accurate.

The speed achieved by the human body in free fall is a function of several factors,
including the body's mass, orientation, and skin area and texture.
In stable, belly-to-earth position, terminal velocity is about 200 km/h (120 mph).
Stable freefall head down position has a terminal speed of 240–290 km/h (around 150–180 mph).
Further minimization of drag (physics) by streamlining the body allows for speeds in the vicinity of 480 km/h (300 mph).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_skydiving

[JimO]

Excuse me Jim but do you see any space in this photo? And do really think that, that metal ball can drop from a height of over arms reach and not impact the ground.,,,,

Scan these images from around the world and compare. Sounds like you are deep into confirmation bias.

http://www.eclipsetours.com/paul-maley/space-debris-2/

[deuem]

Matrix, if you shoot a bullet in the air, say a 45, will it only come back down at 300mph? And most people that hit the ground at that speed get splattered, No?

Jim, How do you know that every one of those have not been dug out of the ground so they could be photographed. I see some of them have even gone through peoples roofs or smashed cars. and this ball does not even dent a tilled field. If I use your logic then why are not all of the space craft just dropped to earth from the upper atmosphere in a ball structure. No parachutes, no wings, nothing, just drop them. The ball in the photo is not very aerodynamic.

[The Matrix Traveller]

Matrix, if you shoot a bullet in the air, say a 45, will it only come back down at 300mph? And most people that hit the ground at that speed get splattered, No?

That's why I wrote, quote;

Now that changes things somewhat D, if their story is accurate.

Taking the story to be reasonably accurate.

[The Matrix Traveller]

Some of Skylab came down in NZ... No big Craters reported !

[The Matrix Traveller]

In my earlier Days I used to indulge in both Street and Track Circuits,
and have hit the ground in excess of 200 kmh .   

No crater though. 

Unhurt .... except for bruising and my Pride ...