Anonymous - Homeless people in US deported to camps - YouTube

[Amaterasu]

Would you be Ok if your village or area was changed to house say a complete different race or your work employer if you have one,  took on another race and replaced the existing work force with  immigrants who would work for half the money.  Would they seem any sort of concern then...or if they had large families and obtained certain benefits and housing that ones own people cannot even get..

What if the "immigrants" were from Your same group?  They just need to survive and are willing to take half the pay?  Would that make a difference in how You would feel?  If so, why?

But if you would be Ok being taken over completely by another culture then that's your choice to decide...

What do You mean, "taken over?"

I was also adding this as being a another reason that may lead some people to become homeless..if jobs are taken by immigrants or they have issues in relation to certain things...

So...  You're blaming the companies who, motivated by profit - and even mandated by law that profit is the only concern (all corporations have that mandate...) - hire People willing to work for less, and not the desperate People looking for a solution in Their lives, right?

It may well be that we are all a mix of ETs as Matrix has suggested...

I may become ET racist if they arrive or are here to harrass us 

I am certain We are part ET dna. 

[Amaterasu]

I would be as OK with it as if they were from the same race as me.
In the same circumstances? I wouldn't be OK with any specific group having better conditions than any other, unless it was to compensate for something.
Culture is a living thing, that's how we have change since we used only sticks and stones.
That's possible, like any other reason.

Gold for You, ArMaP.

[Amaterasu]

The poor and homeless will be around no matter what we do.

I disagree.  We CAN solve for poverty and homelessness.  But it takes virtually all of Us knowing there is a solution.  And then going for it.

[rdunk]

"Homeless" is a matter of fact, whereas "poor" is simply a word of relativity. There are some homeless people who subsequently were found to be rich, and there are "people" who consider themselves to be poor, but still live in decent homes.

This is a bit of a continuing farcical discussion because it is a never-ending theoretical discussion of life and human relationships. There are in fact gillions of reasons, emanating from - mental, physical, parentage, race, government, depressions, financial, and adinfinitum, that begets people living like people do.....in all ways imaginable, up to and including death.

Is it so hard for some people to understand that life is just that, life in every way? For some good, for some not so good, and for some bad bad bad. Absolutely NOTHING can eliminate peoples' response or non response to all of the varying physical and associative circumstances! No, not even TAP!

That is not saying that people cannot be helped! But trying to change the world for someone that really just needs a biscuit is going to do nothing for the one that is starving.

And, while many of you do not accept this fact, a primary factor with bad things in the lives of people are related directly to the spiritually evil that resides in this world, for a time. 

Doing things to help people who need help is a good thing. Doing things for people who could/should be doing for themselves is not a good thing - rather it keeps them from doing for themselves.

[spacemaverick]

I guess the big question is (back to the title) is putting homeless into camps true and how widespread is this practice?

[deuem]

I guess the big question is (back to the title) is putting homeless into camps true and how widespread is this practice?

Don't know, can't get YT here. But I guess it might depend on the camps. If they have barbed wire and gun turrets or green fields with flowers, food and re-education facilities.

If I see any shower rooms with horizontal ovens I think I would make a run for the wire. Better shot than Mr Crispy.

We all know that they took a lot of Nazi high ranking officers into the states and had them work for TPTB. Death camps are their way of getting the last ounce of energy out of a human. But maybe, just maybe the camps are for the betterment of the homeless and the Gov is really thinking of great ways to help people. NOT!

[spacemaverick]

The original video at the beginning of this thread was removed by the user so it says.  I will look for more videos and see what I can come up with for this subject.

[Sinny]

I do not condone inequality anywhere that it exists.  For me, however, that is different from saying that I dislike feminism as a movement; which I do.  Wage gaps and the rape epidemic (both of which I acknowledge the existence of) are both problems which need to be resolved.  I consider the movement itself, conversely, to be both over-emotive and excessively vindictive.

As a man, I can't walk around with my pants off, either; and that is because the penis is considered a sexual organ.  I consider public nudity to be a highly immature and frivolous thing to waste activists' energy on; there are several entirely legitimate issues on which they could focus, as noted.

As long as the first language is not uniformly Arabic, I have no objection.  In some parts of the UK, the first language should rightfully be Gaelic, in my opinion.

While others might reprimand you for being Islamophobic, I am not among them.  I regard Islam as a barbaric pestilence; in my opinion, it is directly analogous to the Borg Collective.  The Muslims are being used by the cabal at the current time, in exactly the same manner that my avatar's species were by the demons, during the Orcish invasion of Azeroth.  They are harbingers of Chaos; a vanguard or advance wave intended to exhaust the population sufficiently, that any potential resistance to the world government which the cabal want to implement, will thereby be removed.

Given the nature of Mirshalak and her people, (and to a lesser extent, my own nature) it is probably deeply hypocritical that I dislike Islam to the extent that I do.  From what I have read about Mohammed, he and Grom Hellscream had much in common.

Nonetheless, what I realise is that it is not volatility or passion which I object to, (indeed, how could I?) but tyranny.  Islam is first and foremost a religion of subjugation, and its' very name reveals that fact.

Feminism is a dangerous movement,  I'll state that.
In regardsto the 'topless' subject, I personally wouldn't walk around topless - howeever the princible of the current 'control system' needs to be addressed.

That control system is: 'Illegal unless it's profitible'.
Hereein,I also only stated breasts, I consider lower genitals to be sexualisation, and indesent unless exposed in the correct contexts.

Men can expose the pecs, but women can't?
Maybe it detracts from their Phallic worship..?

Looking around my immediate social circles, and the 1.5 Million people I share my City with... Islamaphobia is rampent,  and. Right-wing groups are emerging. 
It's a contant effort to remain objective during this. Period of turmoil to ensure all energy is directed where the blame truley lies... At the Eliters.

There are weapons of mass distractions everywhere...

The New World Order is moving at speeds we cannot comprehend, always remember:

If not now, when? If not you, who?

[deuem]

In regards to the 'topless' subject, I personally wouldn't walk around topless

Neither would I now. It is a scary thought. Meaning that there are a lot of people that shouldn't do this. Men and women included. But I would say that any place a man is allowed to do this it should be Ok for the girls to do the same thing if they wish to. When it is hot, it is hot for all. 

Now I'm having dreams of Homeless topless people everywhere. It could go nightmare! I also never thought of this as a money issue until your post. Who would watch porn or buy mags if all you needed to do was to go outside on a hot day. So maybe the same industry that flaunts sex is the same one behind the curtains that clamps down on it. Pay to play, they make money. No pay, no money.

[Sinny]

It's interesting that you state you didn't notice the money issue.
In this game, you'll learn all sorts by just following the money.
However, we're not to be blamed for that... It goes to show how they have perverted and distorted all of our social morals over a period of time..

Sometimes I have to stop and think, and re-evaluate life choices, sometimes the things my peers would have me do are immoral... And the thing I find moral are scorned at.

As Plato put it: "Those who are able to  see beyond the shadows and the lies of their culture, will never be uunderstood, let alone believed by the masses".

[thorfourwinds]

The original video at the beginning of this thread was removed by the user so it says.  I will look for more videos and see what I can come up with for this subject.

Fixed 24 June 2014
tfw

[thorfourwinds]

In 33 U.S. Cities, It's Illegal to Do the One Thing That Helps the Homeless Most (Image Credit: AP)

In 33 U.S. Cities, It's Illegal to Do the One Thing That Helps the Homeless Most

By Tom McKay
June 12, 2014

The news: In case the United States' problem with homelessness wasn't bad enough, a forthcoming National Coalition for the Homeless (NCH) report says that 33 U.S. cities now ban or are considering banning the practice of sharing food with homeless people.

Four municipalities (Raleigh, N.C.; Myrtle Beach, S.C.; Birmingham, Ala.; and Daytona Beach, Fla.) have recently gone as far as to fine, remove or threaten to throw in jail private groups that work to serve food to the needy instead of letting government-run services do the job.

Why it's happening: The bans are officially instituted to prevent government-run anti-homelessness programs from being diluted. But in practice, many of the same places that are banning food-sharing are the same ones that have criminalized homelessness with harsh and punitive measures.

Essentially, they're designed to make being homeless within city limits so unpleasant that the downtrodden have no choice but to leave. Tampa, for example, criminalizes sleeping or storing property in public. Columbia, South Carolina, passed a measure that essentially would have empowered police to ship all homeless people out of town. Detroit PD officers have been accused of illegally taking the homeless and driving them out of the city.

The U.N. even went so far as to single the United States out in a report on human rights, saying criminalization of homelessness in the United States "raises concerns of discrimination and cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment."

"I'm just simply baffled by the idea that people can be without shelter in a country, and then be treated as criminals for being without shelter," said human rights lawyer Sir Nigel Rodley, chairman of the U.N. committee. "The idea of criminalizing people who don't have shelter is something that I think many of my colleagues might find as difficult as I do to even begin to comprehend."

Image Credit: Affordable Housing Institute

Meanwhile, the programs in place to support the homeless are typically inadequate, making claims that ending food-sharing is for their own good specious at best.

According to government data, about 600,000 people are homeless on any given night.

Some 20 states bucked a nationally declining homeless rate from the height of the recession, increasing in measures of homelessness from 2012-2013. According to the NCH, one survey of homelessness found 62,619 veterans were homeless in January 2012.

Other at-risk groups for homelessness include the seriously ill, battered women and people suffering from drug addictions or mental illness.

The economy isn't helping. More Americans live in poverty than before the recession began in 2008 and the number of households living under the poverty line has reached levels unseen since the 1960s.

Some city officials, like Houston's Mayor Annise Parker, claim that "making it easier for someone to stay on the streets is not humane" and say that uncoordinated charity efforts "keep them on the street longer, which is what happens when you feed them."

A local Food Not Bombs activist told VICE that the actual effect was to intimidate local residents from giving out food. Other cities are harsher. In 2011, more than 20 members of Food Not Bombs were arrested in Orlando for sharing food. Love Wins Ministries in Raleigh was threatened with arrest for providing biscuits to the homeless.

Daytona Beach fined, harassed and threatened jail time for Debbie and Chico Jimenez, who run a ministry called "Spreading the Word Without Saying a Word."

Debbie and Chico Jimenez, who run a ministry to help people in poverty, were were ticketed last week $373 a piece (along with four other people) for feeding about 100 homeless people at a Daytona Beach Park. (photo courtesy NBCnews)


NBC News: Police Allegedly Ticket Volunteers for Feeding Homeless - Video


"Homeless people are visible in downtown America. And cities think by cutting off the food source it will make the homeless go away. It doesn't, of course," NCH community organizing director Michael Stoops told NBC News. "We want to get cities to quit doing this. We support the right of all people to share food."

"Nobody would suggest that the ideal situation for a homeless person to be in is living on the street, but the reality is people are living there and they will die there if they don't receive food," National Law Center on Homelessness and Poverty policy director Jeremy Rosen told VICE.

Why you should care?

This is cruelty at its basest and most pointless. The homeless are real people who deserve to be treated like human beings. And if a city bans sharing the necessities of life with them, it doesn't bode well for other ways they treat the homeless.

Meanwhile, successful programs have demonstrated that systematically providing housing and food for the homeless costs society less than leaving them on the street.