Operation Protective Edge - The Israeli Palestinian-Terriorist War

[Littleenki]

LE, could you expand upon what you mean by "post pleistocene pablum"?

Pleis·to·cene  [plahy-stuh-seen]  Show IPA Geology .
adjective

1.noting or pertaining to the epoch forming the earlier half of the Quaternary Period, beginning about two million years ago and ending 10,000 years ago, characterized by widespread glacial ice.

I am not sure how your statement relates to anything relative to this OP??

Hehe, yes my reply was a bit of thread, in response to other off thread comments...my bad..

post pleistocene pablum...religion of the holocene and later eras.....mainly theism and deity and idol worship in general.....

God is not as is perceived by post pleistocene man....thats all.

But rest assured I do know there is a source of all of this greater than we can imagine..and thats the issue, mankind tries to imagine it..hence inventions such as religion.

Cheers.

[Littleenki]

Aaaaand........jew or muslim......I will not blame anyone for being used by a hgher power....
There is evil in all men......

[Amaterasu]

Really?  Evil in all Humans?  I can't find Mine...  Hmmmm.

I say there is a promotion of evil behaviors in a scarcity paradigm that uses the dangerous tool of money, but I surely believe that if such money and power were not an option for anyOne, We would not be motivated to such behaviors as a rule.  Any few who might choose bad behavior "just because" - well, They are sick, not evil per se.

[Littleenki]

Really?  Evil in all Humans?  I can't find Mine...  Hmmmm.

I say there is a promotion of evil behaviors in a scarcity paradigm that uses the dangerous tool of money, but I surely believe that if such money and power were not an option for anyOne, We would not be motivated to such behaviors as a rule.  Any few who might choose bad behavior "just because" - well, They are sick, not evil per se.

Well of course not, Amy, youre not a man!

Everyone has both gender and polarity, evil is one half oft suppressed by those like yourself who are strong of mind.

Who is it that originated the chase for money?

[Sinny]

Really?  Evil in all Humans?  I can't find Mine...  Hmmmm.

He said 'Men' Amy, I'd just let him have that one.  aha.

[ArMaP]

There is evil in all men......

We just have to know how to control it.

[rdunk]

We just have to know how to control it.

"For me", all evil is related to/a major part of the "spiritual" world we are a part of, and that is why it is not generally controllable by man .........but then that is something that can only be discussed in that other forum board!

[Amaterasu]

Well of course not, Amy, youre not a man!

Everyone has both gender and polarity, evil is one half oft suppressed by those like yourself who are strong of mind.

Who is it that originated the chase for money?

Well, I surely don't feel like I am suppressing anything.  I can put Myself in the viewpoint of a psychopath, but I FEEL none of it.  Just see and understand the motivation.

As far as the advent of money, I am unclear who it was that thought We should use it on this planet, but it seems to have been initiated specifically for its control functions. 

[Ellirium113]

This is just another sad chapter in the book of Israeli atrocities.



http://www.nogw.com/israeliatrocities.html

[rdunk]

This is just another sad chapter in the book of Israeli atrocities.



http://www.nogw.com/israeliatrocities.html

The atrocity is..........hamas has brought this upon themselves and the people through their own original and continuing actions, no ifs ands nor buts about it. When hamas quits firing rockets, Israel will stop - unless they have decided to take hamas completely out, and they probably can do that if they want to!

[Ellirium113]

What I see is a lot of revenge tit-for-tat retaliations back and forth for decades all the while the Palestinian territories shrink. A foreign invader has taken over their lands and they are supposed to do what about it exactly? What country has come to their aid? Superficial beliefs and doctrine have created this mess with neither side able to compromise a peaceful co-existence. You may blame who you like for this but what started all the fighting in the beginning really? Where do you see it ending? In peace?

[rdunk]

What documents are you using that defines any country at anytime as Palestine? Everything I find says there has never been a country called "Palestine"! is it like the Indians with different tribes that just lived on the land, but never was a country? Palestinian tribes/nomads??

What part of today's Israel did Israel not win by war?? When you win it, it belongs to you. Such is life!

[rdunk]

Seems that different groups are trying to bring about a cease fire, but to no avail yet. This war could go on for a long time!

In some of the latest news - "Armed wing of Hamas reportedly rejects Egypt's Gaza cease-fire offer, calling it 'submission' ".

The armed wing of the Islamic militant group Hamas said early Tuesday that it was rejecting an Egyptian cease-fire proposal aimed at ending a week of cross-border conflict.

Reuters reported that the al-Qassam Brigades announced on its official website that its members had not received the text of the proposed cease-fire agreement, but said excerpts reported in the media proved it to be "an initiative of kneeling and submission."

"Our battle with the enemy continues, and will increase in ferocity and intensity," the statement added.

Meanwhile, the Israeli military says 3 rockets were fired at the southern city of Eilat early Tuesday, injuring two people and sparking a fire. The military did not immediately know who was behind the rocket fire. Previous rocket attacks on the city have come from radical Islamic militants in the neighboring Sinai Peninsula.

The reported statement would appear to contradict Ismail Haniyeh, Hamas' top leader in Gaza, who confirmed there was "diplomatic movement" in a speech broadcast Monday on Al-Jazeera.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was scheduled to convene his Security Cabinet early Tuesday to discuss the offer. One member, Naftali Bennett, said he would oppose the proposal, calling it "good for Hamas and bad for Israel."

Egypt's Foreign Ministry announced the three-step plan starting at 9 a.m. (2 a.m. Eastern Time) Tuesday with a cease-fire to go into effect within 12 hours of "unconditional acceptance" by the two sides. That would be followed by the opening of Gaza's border crossings and talks in Cairo between the sides within two days, according to the statement.

Gaza's crossings should be opened for people and goods "once the security situation becomes stable," according to a copy of the proposal obtained by The Associated Press.

President Barack Obama praised Egypt's proposal, telling Muslim-Americans that he's hopeful the plan can restore calm.

"We're going to continue to do everything we can to facilitate a return to the 2012 cease-fire," Obama said at a White House dinner Monday night celebrating the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. "We are encouraged that Egypt has made a proposal to accomplish that goal."

More:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/07/15/armed-wing-hamas-reportedly-rejects-egypt-gaza-cease-fire-offer-calling-it/

[rdunk]

Despite ongoing rocket fire and Hamas rejection, Israel security cabinet debating ceasefire
The Egyptian government on Monday evening proposed a cease-fire between Israel and the Palestinian groups in the Gaza Strip, according to which the two sides would end "hostilities" as of 9 a.m.on Tuesday.

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu convened the security cabinet early Tuesday morning to discuss the proposal.

However, Hamas's armed wing rejected the Egyptian ceasefire proposal as "surrender and capitulation" and vowed to continue fighting.

Diplomatic officials said that Netanyahu was expected to encourage the other seven members of the security cabinet to accept the proposal, which would return the situation in Gaza to what it was before Operation Protective Edge began a week ago. Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman and Economy Minister are expected to oppose the proposal in the security cabinet, but are unlikely to be able to prevent the forum from accepting it.

Some 48 hours after the cease fire goes into effect, Egypt is to convene representatives of both Israel and Hamas for further negotiations.

One diplomatic official said that the cease fire would be returned to what it was last Sunday, but "with Hamas much weaker."

"The effectiveness of their rockets have been neutralized, their storehouses and manufacturing capabilities have been hit, and they have been caused deep frustration because of the effectiveness of Iron Dome," he said.

In addition, he said, Hamas failed in its effort to carry out attacks by land air and sea, and is at a low point in public opinion in Judea and Samaria, the international community, the Arab world and even inside Gaza.

"The goals of the operation were to restore quiet for a long period of time, and that goal has been achieved.," he said. "The bottom line is that Hamas did not hit Israel to the degree it thought it would, and – on the other hand – its power was weakened."

Israel, the official said, would now work in the international arena for the dismantling of rockets and the closing of tunnels.

The proposal states that Israel would end all "hostilities in the Gaza Strip from the land, air, and sea and would refrain from launching a ground offensive that targets civilians."

President Barack Obama said he was encouraged by Egypt's proposal for a ceasefire and sided with Israel against what he called "inexcusable attacks."



More:
http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/Despite-ongoing-rockets-fire-security-cabinet-to-debate-on-ceasefire-362806

[ArMaP]

What part of today's Israel did Israel not win by war?? When you win it, it belongs to you. Such is life!

Then I suppose the Hamas is using the "right" way.