Riots in Ferguson, Missouri

[ArMaP]

Forgive me, but i thought that Brown had already surrendered, and was on his knees, when they shot him.

I read somewhere that the main witness was the other guy that robbed the store with him.

[spacemaverick]

I read somewhere that the main witness was the other guy that robbed the store with him.

If you look closely at the store video...you will find that information is correct.  I noticed that because that friend also talked to the media.  Video tells on a person.

[rdunk]

It is bad that a life was taken with this situation, however it happened, but in any case there are certain foundational truths that are high lighted and certainly should not be ignored.

This victim is dead, and he will be remembered. But, the heinous crimes against the people of this country, with all of the looting, breakage, and destruction taking place by others in Ferguson is a far greater crime. The only way for this to be stopped is for the law to come down hard, according to the laws of the land, and take all of these people-criminals to justice for their crimes. This is an upmost requirement, because if the laws we live under are not upheld, then we have NO LAW!! With no law visa-vie no enforcement, then we have ANARCHY, under the which, "It is every man/person for his or her self"!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stuff like this in Ferguson is the beginning of "Zombie time" if it is not stopped in its tracks. This is not a racial thing!! This is not a political thing!! This is about keeping our country the great country to live in that we grew up with!!

[spacemaverick]

Very well said rdunk.  The voice of common sense...law and order.  Anarchy is not the way.  It seems things all over are getting out of hand. 

[rdunk]

Yes spacemaverick, and and I just heard either after last night or the night before, that law enforcement personnel was just standing back and letting the lawlessness happen. The business owners are left alone to defend their property and merchandise. Isn't that a fine how-do-you-do?? How is it possible that law enforcement is not upholding the laws, as they are being openly broken. Yes, these may be citizens, but they must be held strongly accountable, as our laws demand!! 

[spacemaverick]

The very same thing happened in the Rodney King incident in California where riots happened and store owners had to protect their stores without help from police.

[spacemaverick]

Will the real M. Brown step forward.  Some say innocent, some say he was surrendering, some say he is a robber.  A picture now shows up on facebook with him drinking vodka with a mouth full of money holding a gun pointed at the person taking the picture.  Makes a person wonder....

[Sinny]

Looting and Robbing are 'Heinous' crimes..

OH REALLY! LOL.

Murder is a 'heinous' crime!
Murder of MILLIONS is a HEINOUS crime.

You actually just stated that robbery was more 'serious' than murder...

Looting your local store is far from HEINOUS (given the circumstances)... Deplorable perhaps.

Anyway, the witnesses, I.e 'town folk of Ferguson' have stated on camera that the looting was ALLOWED by the cops, until such a point they HAD to act.

As I have stated previously, this a tactic deployed by the police to ensnare the unsuspecting suspicious crowd.

At the riots in England 2011, their tactic weren't lost on all of us, the firstly 'heared' a few hundred BLACK kids into an area, told them they were being KETTLED on grounds of a 'riot' (which did not exist as that point).

Then what followed was a RIOT started by AGENTS, and then continued by the YOUTH, that thought 'well I'm being detained over a riot, I MIGHT AS WELL RIOT'.

Then the police systematically 'kettled' a few hundred peeps from one street to the next, bring some ORGANISATION to the looting. Whilst the police maintained the strategy of NO INTERFERENCE during the looting, only to ensure once one street was looted, the crowd moved to the next street like good little sheep.

Looting is started by OPPORTUNISTS, not STRATEGISTS.
And then they all fall victim to GROUP MENTALITY, which has scientifaclly been proven to change your mental and emotional state.

And this is before they cops uses their high and low frequency devices to FOCK with their heads.

Looting is not 'heinous', the lack of education these looters have is heinous. If they better understood the reality and phycology behind the situation they would stand a better chance of controlling their moral behavior.

Who gains from the riots? The police.


Crapberry, sorry for typos,

ETA: why I nobody commenting on good that is also coming from THE PEOPLE OF FERGUSON? I'm watching RT coverage right now. The majority of people are still out PEACEFULLY protesting messages of unity, love, justice, the American Constitution, the issue's of racism, and the need for things to change. They all seem intelligent and coherant, they are doing America a justice.

I stand with these people from across the sea, now show some appreciation, their putting their asses on the line..

In the 'Land of the Free' 












Small print: with the worlds largest prison population.

[petrus4]

Looting and Robbing are 'Heinous' crimes..

The law is a game of Tetris for the police.  It's a question of using whatever piece of legislation they can, which will create a complete line of blocks, and therefore get them off the hook, or accomplish whatever other objective they have at the time.  They will claim whatever rubbish they need to in order to defend themselves, and they have no regard for the truth whatsoever. 

Watch Law and Order.  Watch the reality shows.  Why do I mention these two things?  Because these are things which are propaganda for the police, and even there, you can see them doing it.  The law is a Rubik's Cube.  Twist the block into the right pattern, give the right BS rationalisation, and the squares all line up.

The law is not for them.  The law is only for us, the civilians.  That is the attitude they have.  We are the children, they are supposedly our parents.  We should just shut up, maybe say thank you occasionally, but apart from that, simply be silent.

[VillageIdiot]

Let's all sing "Kumbaya" while the town is looted by goons.

No, that's not how civilized society works. The "peaceful" control the unruly.

If they were sincere they'd have stopped "their own" days ago.

[petrus4]

Let's all sing "Kumbaya" while the town is looted by goons.

No, that's not how civilized society works. The "peaceful" control the unruly.

If they were sincere they'd have stopped "their own" days ago.

At the risk of sounding politically incorrect, the African American community in America, are often driven by a strong sense of entitlement, and self-victimisation.  It may seem odd that I am taking this stance after what I have said about the police; but the reality is that there are very few entirely innocent parties to be found here, even if the original murder victim was.  There is an attitude here of deep hypocrisy.

Blacks in America will quite happily shoot each other in large numbers, and the civil rights movement never says a word about that.  The only time you will see Al Sharpton or the Black Panthers show up, is when the hand on the trigger or the knife blade happens to be white.  That is when you start hearing the chorus of, "No justice, no peace."



Here is a video from a black person about this issue.

[petrus4]

I will make another post here instead of modifying the last one, but there are two related points I want to make, here.

a}  The Civil War was not about slavery.  It was about taxes, and the North losing access to lucrative ports if the South had been able to secede.  Lincoln only freed the slaves in the Southern states, in the hope that it would cause chaos and distract the Confederate army when he did so.  No Northern slaves were freed at the time. 

Abraham Lincoln was not a hero.  He suspended numerous Constitutional protections, and locked up large numbers of people without charge or trial.  If you were critical of his doing that to other people, he would do it to you as well.  John Wilkes Booth shot Lincoln for the same reason that Brutus and the Senate murdered Julius Caesar; in an attempt to restore the legitimate Republic.  The Lincoln Memorial should rightfully be dismantled, because it was built on lies.  Lincoln was not a great man.  His priority was to preserve the Union so that he could continue to collect all of the states' taxes for his masters, the bankers.  He did not care about the slaves.  It is wrong that he is remembered as a saviour of African Americans.  He was not.

I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.

b}  Martin Luther King was not killed because of his efforts to end racial discrimination.  He was killed because he wanted to turn his racial activism into a political platform, which would involve raising the minimum wage, and improving working conditions for poor workers.

Most of the major events or issues which have been said to be about racism or discrimination in America, in fact were not.  The Rodney King bashing and the resulting riots were obviously an exception; but again, a lot of hypocrisy exists there, in the sense that while black people have no issue with the number of their own people who they kill, the only time they will riot, is if it is a white person who kills one of them.  They should be just as intolerant of killing each other, as they are of whites killing them.

[Sinny]

Petrus, I agree with your sentiments.

Our society is broken and diseased, the only way forward is education, and I do not mean STATE education.

The Black self-victimisation was and is a phycological certainty, the only way over come the negative implications of this is to recognise it for what it is and to build social bridges with our newley revived and ethical shared goals and value's.

[VillageIdiot]

You want Utopia. There will never be Utopia. Man is flawed. As long as emotion rules, so will the animal in us.

[spacemaverick]

You want Utopia. There will never be Utopia. Man is flawed. As long as emotion rules, so will the animal in us.

You are very perceptive VI...very perceptive.