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curiosity rover discovers "thigh bone" on mars

Started by The Seeker, August 23, 2014, 07:23:58 PM

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The Seeker

Quote from: ArMaP on August 23, 2014, 09:44:50 PM
I was right about that photo, it's not from this area, it was taken by Spirit, not by Curiosity. :)

Spirit Mars Rover in 'McMurdo' Panorama.
Good find, Armap; they lumped it in with the current batch, probably just to confuse the issue...

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Sgt.Rocknroll

Spirit?..Damn now I'll have to re-edit the damn thing....well maybe not....

have a look..:)

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Amaterasu

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rdunk

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Sgt., those "identical rocks" may just be the greatest mystery of this photo!! Yes, they are identical in too many ways to just be a coincidence doncha think?? Whatever they are, they are essentially the same, except there is more sand on the right end of one than the other.

Just a very strange occurrence, unless someone is filling in the area with digital rocks! And I believe that is what has happened here, at least in this pic. I was just looking at the two big chunks, but there are more than a dozen other smaller rocks at the head of both rocks, and surrounding, that are also identical in geometry and identical in placement to the bigger rocks. If we look, we may also find these elsewhere in this and other pics!!  >:( 

A good eye Sgt.!!



rdunk

To me, the bone in the Rover pic is also somewhat similar to the "tibia" bone.


                                                 

Amaterasu

I agree.  Was just throwing out a "thigh bone" since that was the label given and that's what I got on a search of "thigh bone."
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ArMaP

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on August 23, 2014, 10:37:10 PM
Spirit?..Damn now I'll have to re-edit the damn thing....well maybe not....
Only that photo that I thought was not from that area is from Spirit, the "bone" was found by Curiosity.

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I will have a look.

PS: there's a left camera and right camera photo, can you get some real 3D from that?

Amaterasu

Quote from: rdunk on August 23, 2014, 10:57:21 PM
Sgt., those "identical rocks" may just be the greatest mystery of this photo!! Yes, they are identical in too many ways to just be a coincidence doncha think?? Whatever they are, they are essentially the same, except there is more sand on the right end of one than the other.

Just a very strange occurrence, unless someone is filling in the area with digital rocks! And I believe that is what has happened here, at least in this pic. I was just looking at the two big chunks, but there are more than a dozen other smaller rocks at the head of both rocks, and surrounding, that are also identical in geometry and identical in placement to the bigger rocks. If we look, we may also find these elsewhere in this and other pics!!  >:( 

A good eye Sgt.!!




Absolutely no doubt in My mind that the clone tool was used.  Now the question is...  Why?
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ArMaP

The aligned dots are not a photo artefact or the result of a Maritan pogo-stick (as far as I know), they are the result of the use of the laser they use to analyse the rocks/ground.

The repeated rock (and other parts of the photo) are not the result of the clone tool, they are the result of the panorama-making software not being able to join the photos correctly. The original photos (available here) do not have those areas repeated.

The panorama I made with the photos from the right camera doesn't have that problem.
(click for full size)


The Seeker

#24
Here is the object I am curiuos about...



I have it circled in red
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ArMaP

To me it looks like one of those flat, long(ish) rocks with another rock on top at the rightmost end.

Amaterasu

Quote from: ArMaP on August 24, 2014, 12:17:04 AM
The aligned dots are not a photo artefact or the result of a Maritan pogo-stick (as far as I know), they are the result of the use of the laser they use to analyse the rocks/ground.

The repeated rock (and other parts of the photo) are not the result of the clone tool, they are the result of the panorama-making software not being able to join the photos correctly. The original photos (available here) do not have those areas repeated.

The panorama I made with the photos from the right camera doesn't have that problem.
(click for full size)



Gold for You, ArMaP.  I forgot it was a stitched image.
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The Seeker

Quote from: the seeker on August 24, 2014, 12:20:52 AM
Here is the object I am curiuos about...



I have it circled in red

bump. I still want to know about that object on the top right circled in red; maybe it is a rock, but I don't see it as one...

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Sgt.Rocknroll

Been a little busy, friend I haven't forgotten...it looks like a hatch of some sort at first glance
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Amaterasu

Quote from: ArMaP on August 23, 2014, 08:28:04 PM
I suppose you are talking about the wheel marks left by the rover, they easy to see on the panorama below, made with 13 photos.

(click for full size, 13 MB image)


Some people think that the "bone" is one of those small white ridges we see on that area, only it was disturbed by the rover's wheels.

From Your image above:



What I have here came from the area in the upper left where the rover felt the need to go back and forth.  I thought the cameras could do 360 swivel?  Why did the rover do that?  (ArMaP, I'm sure You will enlighten. [smile])

What I have delineated with the black lines and circle is the path of the treads that suggests that there should be a treadmark in that soft-looking sand.  And yet...  It looks more like the sand was added to hide something the rolling over maybe to destroy failed to make look "desolately natural..."

The red arrow points to a rock formation that looks more biological in formation, but maybe it's a rock.


Here I see what could be either rocks - or painted pottery.

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