what i just saw..

[ArMaP]

is that helpful?

It is, thanks.

[Pimander]

Looks like you just joined the triangle club, Sky.

Is it just me, or does anyone else not think that it is odd how these things have lights on them?

Obviously they need to train at in flight refueling and perhaps the lights make it safer but it is almost like they want us to see them.  Lets face it, there are plenty of places that are not populated (e.g. over sea).

HYPOTHESIS:  The triangles are not the best top secret technology available.  If triangle craft were the most secret technology then they would not have Christmas lights and refuel over populated areas.


Anyone agree?

[sky otter]

Pimander

that wasn't the first one..i have said many times about how populated the sky is here
last year I got a pic and ask if anyone wanted to waste some time trying to figure out what it was
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5769.msg79842#msg79842

the pictures that were checked out turned out to be a triangle but  I only saw the lights moving quickly across the sky..

thinking about it .. same flight path..
hummmmmmmmmmmm

wonder if there is a base near here where they could be coming from

lots of limestone mines...iron mountain is about an hour by car
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2521390/data-center/22-stories-underground--iron-mountain-s-experimental-room-48.html

edit to remove incorrect iron mountain info..sorry..it's correct now


side note..can be ignored 
I worked in the mushrooms so I can tell you it is huge underground.. out of bus. now but still there
http://agmap.psu.edu/Businesses/index.cfm?fid=3718
when they closed this person did a video.. you can see they are in the middle of nowhere




continuing
wampum , pa. limestone mines (sorry can't remember the business name) is where they did the lens for a well known space telescope..YEAH THAT ONE

IF you look at a map we aren't that far from the ohio military bases..

and I have to say the most folks don't sit out much anymore but we do and we are at the edge of a small boro and we see all kinds of things

this was a first for this one though...
I'm thinking I should mount the camera and set it on auto...sigh

secret in plain site..lots of weather balloons...

[The Seeker]

Looks like you just joined the triangle club, Sky.

Is it just me, or does anyone else not think that it is odd how these things have lights on them?

Obviously they need to train at in flight refueling and perhaps the lights make it safer but it is almost like they want us to see them.  Lets face it, there are plenty of places that are not populated (e.g. over sea).

HYPOTHESIS:  The triangles are not the best top secret technology available.  If triangle craft were the most secret technology then they would not have Christmas lights and refuel over populated areas.


Anyone agree?

Pimander, let us consider the current state of affairs in the unidentified aerial phenomena genre'; there is so much poop and disinfo flying around these days that I am beginning to doubt whether or not Joe Sixpack actually pays attention any more...

just by the fact they do have lights on them would lead 99% to automatically discount them as military, conventional, et all...

the one I saw in the late 70's didn't have any lights, or make any sound...

perhaps Ms otter will luck out and get some pics...

seeker

[sky otter]

the one I saw in the late 70's didn't have any lights, or make any sound

ditto for the one I saw in the 80's....



this is different and I would say it is  military....whose.. on or off world may be the real question but.. if that sucker was getting refueled.. guess...

[zorgon]

the one I saw in the late 70's didn't have any lights, or make any sound
ditto for the one I saw in the 80's....

Yes those are different propulsion  the silent dark ones...

But if you have looked over UFO reports for 40 odd years you will see the silent dark ones and the triangles came in AFTER the waves of the saucer type glowing ones.

In MY opinion these are our own technology based on the research I have seen at dot mil sites and reports from certain people

Give hu-mons a little credit  we can be pretty good at figuring things out if our heads are not up our ass   

Since the SECRET space program had astronauts long before NASA was NASA... (this is now public knowledge) does it not follow that they are WAY ahead of where most people think they are? Just common sense really...

If the secret astronaut program was in full swing back in the early 69's (the MOL was CANCELLED in 1969) and they finally released that info publicly on NOVA(PBS)  Aired February 12, 2008 on PBS, then it follows that if you use the same time frame (about 50 years) it will be 50 years from now when we find out about the space fleet



Since Richard Truly was THE FIRST secret astronaut, then became head of NASA for a spell, being the director that CLOSED the "No Alien Contact" rule, became Vice Admiral of the NAVY and first commander of the Naval Space Command...

What more does it take to wake people up?

Really?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/military/astrospies.html

[The Seeker]

That has always been the question,Z: what is it going to take for Joe Sixpack to get his collective head out of the sandbox[with video games, fake reality shows, and mega doom porn to keep their attention] and pay attention?

Orson Welles scared the piss out of most peeps with his war of the worlds broadcast; then by the time the movie "the day the earth stood still" came in the early 50's no one paid attention...

NASA has never been more than a dog and pony show to program the masses into complacency; i have the thought at times that one of the reasons JFK was taken down was because he knew about the Secret space program and what really goes on in the black world...

remember the pics of his visit to A51?

It appears the large, silent triangles didn't come on the scene until the mid 70's; my sighting was in '79... perhaps it is now obsolete enough for the tech behind it to start "being developed" in the public arena...

the question I have now is about the fluxliner; when did that 100 year old tech start zooming around in the public eye? late 40's?

would be interesting to get Tom Bedlam to come over for a chat or two about how he journeyed to Planet Dirt...

seeker

[sky otter]

well what I saw back then was not a triangle....I have told a few I trust what it was
but it's not going here..lol..sorry
I know it wasn't military but I have wondered often if it was inter dimensional

sorry seeker I don't recognize that name..i have tried not to read too much sci fi..
I would really like to keep my observations as pure as I can without being influenced by what others have had to say....it's only after I see something that I go searching for info
but that's just how I do it..

[Pimander]

The silent ones might be unmanned triangular stealth blimps and don't require jet propulsion because they are so light.  I remember reading about them somewhere a few years back.  The technology was supposedly shelved in favor of others but I doubt it as it sounds like a very cheap way of spying compared to some of the crazy expensive triangle projects at A51.

The UFO I saw was was well lit and definitely not conventional propulsion but it was not a triangle.  I'd suggest it was deliberately visible in a populated area which I can't explain away as a normal secret technology test.  Could it have been a real ET encounter?  I wish I knew but it was extremely odd if it was not.

I can't help thinking that the triangles with lights are not cutting edge now which is why they use lights.  Perhaps the stuff seen by Lazar and our very own A51Watcher is the cutting edge now?  If it is then I want to know what fuel they are using.

Sky, I'd love to see some pictures.  It does sound like you live in a cool place for sky watching.

[Sinny]

So, whilst on the subject of various propulsion systems..

I have seen many a varity of UFO including Orbs, and triangles..

Zorgon has described methods for which the both may operate..

However, one thing bugging me is how my black 'saucer' might have been propelled'.

Saucer most likely isnt the best word for me to use... I'll see if I can upload a sketch.. albeit a poor one lol

Okay, my drawing was a bit whack, the arrow just indicates where the thing really was.


Just for fun, he's the triangles that kept buzzing my town


And here's a strange thing by 22 year old cousin saw, after his 4 years old nieice pointed it out:

[sky otter]

Sky, I'd love to see some pictures.  It does sound like you live in a cool place for sky watching.

yeah.. that makes two of us..lol

P have you ever considered what you saw to be interdimensional?
what I saw back then does not fit with any other thing I have seen..not even close..

the stuff I am seeing now.. the triangles and things.. those are man made things..
however you figure their movements or propulsion..they aren't from somewhere else..imo


Sinny.. looks to me like you have a mix of things there..
like I said the triangle is a man made thing but the squiggly things.. hummmmmmmmm
I would check the other realms in your area and see who is playing with the elementals..
or the bugs 
just a guess as there are so many levels of 'beings' here and with the way the earth energy is changing more and more are visible..  in my opinion , of course

when I got my first digital camera I was taking night pics of  the moon and stars and had a huge orb show up in one of the shots about 6 inches or so.. I enlarged the pic and isolated the orb  and I believe I could see what looked like a porthole and a  "being" inside
unfortunately I didn't know how to save both and only have the blown up pic left.. somewhere on a disc....so it's just a story now..no proof

so hang onto your drawings..somewhere down the line it will click what it is..

[Pimander]

Sinny, would you mind doing a thread on your sighting?  In particular I'm interested in the first picture.  A 2D image is not enough really.   The more detail the better.

1. Where were you and what were you doing at the time?
2. What made you first notice the object?
3. What did you think the object was when you first noticed it?
4. Describe the object and its actions and motions in detail.
5. Describe your feelings, reactions and actions, during and after sighting the object.
6. How did you lose sight of the object?

MUFON SITE

This is useful for descriptions of movement. http://mufoncms.com/cms_files/MUFON_New_Form1_Complete.pdf

Also don't forget sound, smells etc.  For example I felt a highly charged atmosphere similar to being near an electrical sub station or certain physics apparatus in a University and heard a hissing sound.  The air felt like it was humming or buzzing.  These details are what I pay most attention to.


@Sky:  I have definitely considered interdimensionality as an explanation (generally and in my case).  There are interesting possible connections to other worlds that may have been passed off as superstition prematurely by scientists (even though it was probably a necessary part of the development of human thought to free science from religious dogma).  I see you are familiar in what you said to Sinny. 

[sky otter]

P
I wonder if those of us with the older-silent- maybe-interdimensional sightings should compare locations.. as in lat and long...plus time of day..
I think there may be something in Circadian rhythm  and age of viewer....all proponets of this imo

[Sinny]

Okay, so the description to accompany the first image can be found here:
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=3137.0

Others sighting from the same location can be found on page one here:
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=6257.0

Yes, I think Sky and Pi both touch upon some pertinent points.
I believe that my Home Town throughout 2010-2012 was cartainly a 'UFO Hotspot', and although it appears I have had the most frequent and most interesting sightings in the area, I also know of at least 20 other witnesses over that time period also.

It may still be a hotspot, but I have not been around to make that observation.

Another point that I would like to add is, if I seek a UFO long and hard enough, one will surely present it's self.

The work of Bruce Cornet (NIDS) and Ellen Crystal touched upon the theory of 'UFO Hotspots', and I personally believe that anything non-human is interdimentional - supported by other historical documentation including the work of Crowley

If any further information is required, you know where to find me

[sky otter]

Another point that I would like to add is, if I seek a UFO long and hard enough, one will surely present it's self.


you have just proven the adage that.....you get what you focus on