Ebola has been confirmed in the United States

[Wrabbit2000]

A patient was admitted to a North Texas Hospital last night with signs of possible "Ebola Virus Disease" as the article refers to it. The suspicion has been confirmed by the CDC labs as the first U.S. Ebola patient to present from the general population

I suppose...it just got real folks.

DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) – Officials with the Centers for Disease Control have confirmed that a person in Dallas definitely has the Ebola virus. Tuesday's official determination makes the Dallas patient the first diagnosed Ebola case in the United States.

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Some days I can say I really do wish I hadn't rolled out of bed at all. That hospital is about 475 miles from me.

[Wrabbit2000]

To add a bit to this. I just caught the tail end of the live feed for the press question/answer with the CDC in Atlanta. Their general message and tone is that the guy was 0 for infectious chance on the flight he arrived on, which was Sept 20th. They aren't releasing flight info on that basis. He was visiting family and they are tracing contact as quickly as possible, as far out as applicable.

The CDC spokesman also confirmed the timeline as the guy having sought treatment on the 26th and gone home, then returned and been admitted.

[VillageIdiot]

To add a bit to this. I just caught the tail end of the live feed for the press question/answer with the CDC in Atlanta. Their general message and tone is that the guy was 0 for infectious chance on the flight he arrived on, which was Sept 20th. They aren't releasing flight info on that basis. He was visiting family and they are tracing contact as quickly as possible, as far out as applicable.

The CDC spokesman also confirmed the timeline as the guy having sought treatment on the 26th and gone home, then returned and been admitted.

We shouldn't be taking any flights from the infected areas. This is just plain stupid.

Whom did he infect in that two-day window between hospital visits?

[Wrabbit2000]

So far, they are claiming no secondary infections have been found. Then again, isolation for incubation on Ebola is usually 21 days minimum and it is not uncommon to read 42 days used in Africa when they shut an area down or otherwise institute a quarantine. Of course, the message from CDC seems to be "Nothing to see here, move along now..."

There is a bit more firming up for information on the basic line of events here though and my initial reading of last night (29th) being when he was admitted was incorrect. It was the 28th. Here is a bit more from another source this evening.

The patient left Liberia on September 19 and arrived in the United States on September 20, CDC director, Dr. Tom Frieden told reporters at a press conference Tuesday. It's the first patient to be diagnosed with this particular strain of Ebola outside of Africa.

"[The patient] had no symptoms when departing Liberia or entering this country. But four or five days later on the 24th of September, he began to develop symptoms," said Frieden.

The patient, who was in the U.S. visiting family in Texas, initially sought care on September 26, but was sent home and was not admitted until two days later. He was placed in isolation at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital of Dallas, where he remains critically ill, according to Frieden.

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Headlines tonight are suggesting the Government isn't ready for a large outbreak (hard to believe after the buildup in DHS and Fema from previous scares in recent years) and Airports cannot screen for this (impossible to believe if symptoms show).

The official material from Government agencies and what they give their own people say over and over that the only response to Ebola is barrier tactics and physical isolation. Hopefully they are following everything and err'ing on the side of caution.

I also agree on the need to just say no to flights inbound from *ANY* of those nations known to have active outbreaks. I mean, sheesh... Seems like a no brainer. Sure, people can go to other nations to fly in, but adding that level of complication may well be enough to deter the casual "oops" case that makes for a historic footnote on an epidemic or pandemic outbreak.

[Amaterasu]

An interesting article by Jon Rappaport:

Is "1st US Ebola patient" a hoax?

by Jon Rappoport

October 1, 2014

NoMoreFakeNews.com

Trumpeted headline news:

An unnamed Ebola patient is isolated at the Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas, after arriving from Liberia.

First of all, we have the highly dubious marketing aspect of the whole event, in order to achieve an explosive effect.

Media outlets, taking their cue from the CDC, are using the term, "1st US Ebola patient," when that is obviously false.

Several other Ebola patients have been treated in the US, most notably Dr. Keith Brantly.

It turns out the CDC technically means: first Ebola patient diagnosed here in the US. The others were apparently diagnosed in West Africa.

The difference is hardly significant. It certainly doesn't rate banner headlines. So why is the CDC, and therefore the US government making such a big deal out of this patient?

The CDC wants every American to know the agency is hunting down—and will quarantine—every person they find who had recent contact with the Dallas patient—beginning a new phase in the Ebola scare-campaign.

Not only that, any of those contacts who turn out to be positive for Ebola will, in turn, trigger a yet-wider search for his/her contacts...and so on.

This hunt-and-search dragnet sets the stage for quarantines in designated sectors across the US.—and travel bans.

The dragnet comes at a moment when announcements about releasing a new Ebola vaccine are accelerating—and of course the CDC wants to make sure Americans accept the vaccine, even though tests for its safety have barely begun.

Ramp up the fear of Ebola; release the vaccine; urge, insist, and demand the population take the shot.

On a scientific level, as CDC chief Tom Frieden mentioned in his press conference yesterday, the diagnosis of Ebola in the Dallas patient was done by the use of the PCR test.

Frieden assured the press the test is highly accurate.

Actually, the very sensitive test is prone to a number of errors, the first of which is mistaking the tiny amount of cellular material taken from the patient for an element of the Ebola virus.

More important, since the PCR is based on the idea of amplifying, millions of times, this sample, in order to be able to observe it, it throws into doubt the premise that the patient has enough virus in his body to cause disease.

A person who is purportedly ill as a result of a virus has millions and millions of the active virus in his body. There is no need to run the PCR test in that case.

It is therefore legitimate to ask: why was the PCR done on the Dallas patient?

Instead, why weren't other tests run?

And: why wasn't a test done which directly isolated the Ebola virus in the patient and then measured the quantity and concentration (titer) of it in his body?

Following their own paradigm of disease, that's what researchers and doctors would want: information about how much virus is present in the patient.

The PCR test does not yield reliable data in that regard.

No scientist who owes his job and reputation to the CDC or any other conventional medical organization will press these questions, but there are plenty of independent scientists who can step forward.

Now is the time. The Dallas patient is being used to forward a fear/quarantine/vaccine agenda.

Notice—absolutely nothing is being said about the most important fact in this equation: the strength of a person's immune system and its superior ability to throw off a virus on its own.

Of course not. That would undercut the fact that selling drugs and vaccines is the number-one ambition of the medical industry.

Jon Rappoport

Found here:  http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/10/01/is-1st-us-ebola-patient-a-hoax/

[Wrabbit2000]

Hmmm.... With all respect to the man and what he seems to have for some knowledge..on something relating to this? He has no earthly clue what he's talking about and his ignorance isn't cute, its dangerous. It's potentially lethal if that one case morphs into more (and a second case is already running headlines in Dallas as a possible, right now).

I refer to the source used...not the person posting it, to be very clear on that. There is no room for peeing matches in this one. This is too serious.

It turns out the CDC technically means: first Ebola patient diagnosed here in the US. The others were apparently diagnosed in West Africa.

The difference is hardly significant. It certainly doesn't rate banner headlines. So why is the CDC, and therefore the US government making such a big deal out of this patient?

The difference is how we define an item of interest on the news and the direct threat of infection to our fellow Americans.

This was the first case "IN THE WILD" within the United States. There have been no others, as of yet, and that makes this significant in serious ways. It is a distinction which changes everything, if this doesn't turn out as an isolated one-off incident.

Not least of which is the fact that this man was walking free for at least 48 hours in a symptomatic state between his first appearance to health officials on September 26th and his final admission and isolation to a hospital on the 28th. It's now known, as a given fact and reported all over as we speak, he exposed school age children by contact, among others. Incubation is 21 days. So says all material I can find from official sources on Ebola. So sets the waiting period to see if they are infected or not.

I suppose I'll be a rather unhumorous bunny on this story, because Dallas is entirely too close for comfort. We have, currently, 3 exotic viruses which are new and carry various levels of doom for our citizens. This respiratory virus they keep calling a mystery and which they JUST admitted, last night, was in my immediate area during the time my whole house came down with the symptoms they describe here in Missouri. We have this mosquito born virus coming up from Mexico and Central America, judging by where it is first appearing right now ...and then we have the granddaddy of them all for viral threats currently known to be in the wild and active. Ebola.

For people interested in avoiding the 'Conspiracy speak' on this one and want to simply focus on the facts and actual epidemiology of it, as it's happening? I have a source to refer to that specializes in that very thing. Tracking, recording and displaying outbreaks around the world on a real time or near real time basis for a wide variety of viral and bacterial disease.

Global Incident Outbreaks

Those who know that link from my sharing it elsewhere, know I usually couch it with a warning. I don't have the heart or the desire to include that warning, this time. It just doesn't apply as we're watching news of a second Ebola case possible for the Dallas situation.

All I can say is...Don't believe ANYONE on what "is or is not true" about how this bug works, how it spreads and how it kills. Including me. Do your own research and put a few hours into it. This one is a 100% No Drill situation, and if anything ever warranted a couple hours of dry reading for personal enrichment, this one does. It may just be a critical factor at some point for health.

[Amaterasu]

Considering Jon has done decades of study on vaccines, dud "pandemics," and the machinations that sell vaccines...  And has looked into the risks for healthy Humans vs. immune-compromised Humans, rarely does a healthy Human have many issues - the immune system is a marvelous thing.

Ebola may be what They are claiming, but I doubt, barring the spraying of virii on Us, that We will see much in the way of actual ebola happening.  If They spray Us...which I surely don't put past Them...then who knows what We will see.

But I surely suspect that this is more to accomplish widespread vaccination with toxic, sterilizing, hazardous materials with the pretense that it has anything to do with "protection" from ebola, and not part of Agenda 21.

[Wrabbit2000]

But I surely suspect that this is more to accomplish widespread vaccination with toxic, sterilizing, hazardous materials with the pretense that it has anything to do with "protection" from ebola, and not part of Agenda 21.

In this case, I absolutely and completely mean it when I say I hope you are correct in every assumption you are making and this is a fully man-made, artificial and concocted outbreak to meet some agenda.

That, right now, would be the BEST case scenario we could be looking at for everyone involved. It's also the most unlikely one, in my view, but it would suggest some level of control. Any level of control is a reassuring thing when dealing with exceptionally lethal pathogens that are out in the wild.

In terms of 'experts'? Ebola HAS no "experts" in the sense of other bugs, and your average micro-biologist is probably as expert as anyone else on Earth who isn't directly handling the inside of this outbreak. The reason is how very few times Ebola has been in the open to examine and learn from. Precious few, in fact, over it's near 40 year documented existence. It's as much guesswork as assumption coming out of presumption for those working the crisis.

Now it's a single case in America ....so I suppose the conspiracy stuff is sexy here at the moment. It'll get ratings, sell books, get clicks and make people way out on the fringes of junk science sound special for a very short time. I wouldn't even suggest it under my breath as a joke in the nations who have seen bodies piling in the streets, to read local daily accounts of this thing. The reaction from locals would be......extremely violent, I'm thinking.

I also wish anyone all the power in creation to survive, if they figure good health is enough to face and defeat a viral agent like Ebola. They'll need it. This hasn't just claimed the lives of "civilians" but some of the leading health officials and professionals in the impacted nations. Men who do this for a living and have literally forgotten more about hemorrhagic fevers than you or I will ever know, put together. This outbreak and this strain killed them as dead as the poor beggar in the street to get it from pure bad luck.

BTW... on another aspect... Is anyone in the Military here or affiliated in any way with Northern Command to be aware of movements or mobilizations within that organization? I'd be shocked to see public chatter on it, but maybe someone knows someone else whose conscience would get the better of them to spill some info?

[Wrabbit2000]

Here is a quick update. I'll skip most of what has happened since I last added to this thread, since most of us are likely following this close enough to be aware of breaking developments in Dallas, among other locations at this stage.

I came across this though and thought it would be of interest for folks to see.

State Of Texas - Communicable Disease Control Order

It's a quick 2 page PDF but it is the document you would likely be handed today if you were a member of the infected family there or someone to be added to the list in need of 21 day quarantine.

Also, the latest this morning is that a member of the N.B.C. News team covering Liberia has been confirmed positive with Ebola infection and is awaiting med-evac to the United States. The rest of the crew is also self isolating out of caution, by reports still coming.

...and the band plays on.

[Senduko]

Amaterasu; No disrespect but that guy is full of it, I gave him the benefit of doubt untill I read this :
"Notice—absolutely nothing is being said about the most important fact in this equation: the strength of a person's immune system and its superior ability to throw off a virus on its own."

Well d'uh, the ebola has a confirmed 90% morality rate ( from the strains we have encountered so far )  So who in their right mind goes telling people, well if you eat you'r fruit and vegetables you should be fine( which is what his basically saying ).

He made a new post 47 questions and answers...  here's one that caught my attention :

Q: What's killing all those people in West Africa?

A: With the tests being run on them—and many are simply eyeballed and called "Ebola"—there is no proof that any of these people have Ebola.

Q: There are other long-term reasons for death and dying in West Africa?

A: Protein-calorie malnutrition, hunger, starvation, extreme poverty, contaminated water supplies, overall lack of basic sanitation, a decade of horrific war, toxic medical drugs, prior toxic vaccine campaigns, etc.

So all those healthcare workers that died/people laying dead in the street are just dead from the above...

The guy should stop posting this utterly bs, because this is how people die/.

[Amaterasu]

Amaterasu; No disrespect but that guy is full of it, I gave him the benefit of doubt untill I read this :
"Notice—absolutely nothing is being said about the most important fact in this equation: the strength of a person's immune system and its superior ability to throw off a virus on its own."

Well d'uh, the ebola has a confirmed 90% morality rate ( from the strains we have encountered so far )  So who in their right mind goes telling people, well if you eat you'r fruit and vegetables you should be fine( which is what his basically saying ).

He made a new post 47 questions and answers...  here's one that caught my attention :
So all those healthcare workers that died/people laying dead in the street are just dead from the above...

The guy should stop posting this utterly bs, because this is how people die/.

And Lessee...  That 90% death rate is in areas with overcrowding, poor sanitation, wretched nutrition, minimal care available, and no vitamin C treatment.

But it is just as deadly to People with good nutrition, not overcrowded, with fine sanitation...?   Hmmm.

Frankly, I am not convinced this whole thing isn't a psyop.

EDIT:  And in case You missed it, those health care workers are spending hours in very hot hazmat suits, sweating out the larger part of Their water, taking a break to rehydrate and cleanse with toxic stuff, and returing to sweat out the fluids again.  Do that too much and One can easily become ill.

The tests for ebola They are using are shamefully poor.  And most are "diagnosed" by eyeballing Them, as stated.

[Ellirium113]

Frankly, I am not convinced this whole thing isn't a psyop.

Far too many stupid mistakes happening for this. Either no one in government  is taking this seriously enough or like you say perhaps a psyop. In my opinion...if this in fact IS a weaponized form of Ebola they would not release it unless there WAS a cure. That being said they may inoculate those whom they deem matter as for the rest of us, a mediocre fix may be in the works with no guarantees and likely a plethora more health risks involved in the treatments if you should survive. There also has been too much going on behind the scenes prior to the onset of this epidemic. Someone knew this was going to happen long before it happened. This is why I am in agreement with the psyop argument.

[pschrier]

Team, great thread.

Wrabbit, Ellirium, Amaterasu, Senduko - great thoughts beat by beat.

The simultaneous appearance of the schoolyard Entero Virus (sounds like a Metallica song) is odd. Seems similar to the K-Mart group that was on the news *the other day/today*. Arbitrary "he was unarmed, and only made it in 'a little ways'" stuff.

The next 10 - 14 days are going to tell the tale domestically, as obviously, the African death-toll has been, surely, frighteningly under-reported.

This is about the hottest item on the blotter, especially if the transmission parameters are being dumbed down in the press

Paulie

[Amaterasu]

Far too many stupid mistakes happening for this. Either no one in government  is taking this seriously enough or like you say perhaps a psyop. In my opinion...if this in fact IS a weaponized form of Ebola they would not release it unless there WAS a cure. That being said they may inoculate those whom they deem matter as for the rest of us, a mediocre fix may be in the works with no guarantees and likely a plethora more health risks involved in the treatments if you should survive. There also has been too much going on behind the scenes prior to the onset of this epidemic. Someone knew this was going to happen long before it happened. This is why I am in agreement with the psyop argument.

I have heard rumors that there is indeed a cure.  But that it is not in production...  Given the psyoppish nature of the whole affair, the sloppiness, the sending troops INTO the zone (huh?  Did I miss something?), the lack of concern by so many "in charge..."  I have to give fair probability that indeed, They have a cure and are not really letting anyOne know.

[Wrabbit2000]

The next 10 - 14 days are going to tell the tale domestically, as obviously, the African death-toll has been, surely, frighteningly under-reported.

I couldn't agree more with that. I've slowed a bit in posting more about this because the private sector began moving against Government suggestions. That gave me a fresh feeling of hope. Specifically, the airlines told them where to stick their "nothing to see...no need to know flight info" and realized their corporate future would hang in the balance if one person from one plane connected to this were to be sick. Fear of liability......it may not be a perfect motivator, but it comes to be enough to give me some hope of things being done with purpose.

Like you say though....The timer isn't up to us and no human is really setting the deadline to see what there is to see here. That is entirely up to this little beastie and its incubation period. If we can pass October 19th (or so)..without another case? Well, then we dodged a bullet yet again, eh? If not? I hope they have their plastic beakers and bunny suits handy for the next wave.

I did find a few articles which may help for perspective. The first one is hopeful and it's important in sharing to see how and why Ebola has been different in Nigeria.

Nigeria's Actions Seem to Contain Ebola Outbreak

The second one isn't as hopeful. In fact, it's not terribly positive at all. Then again, very little about Ebola is. I've lost track of mortality rate on this. Some suggest as low as 40% death rate among those treated in a 1st world medical setting, and that sounds very good. The 75%(ish) comes where the systems aren't good to begin with or they lost initial containment and ...even our hostpitals could be overwhelmed and overloaded with enough at once.

A Hospital From Hell, in a City Swamped by Ebola

Finally, this is coming a tad late, as the bio on Duncan is widely known at this point. Still, I'm keeping this with the dozens of other bookmarks I'm adding to for the Ebola story because it's a very solid piece written to cover just about all of his issues in one story.

U.S. Patient Aided Pregnant Liberian, Then Took Ill

The fact of the matter is, he left a trail of bodies behind him and where the mini-outbreak he was infected by had been centered. One after another got sick and went down, until he left to come here. What a guy.....and I'm leaning hard to supporting a shut down of air travel out of the infected nations as a result of cases like this. The more people who get the idea 'hope of survival lay in reaching the US'? The more likely we start seeing our limited resources for this become overwhelmed in short order.

That..and not a single case spreading by mistakes at this stage, is my greatest concern. If word spreads that hope is here? Those with no hope will flood us. After all, who here wouldn't do the same in reverse if that were the impression you had while sitting with a viral exposure or early infection with HIGH odds of it killing you, otherwise?