Lochness Socialism?

[undo11]

Who really knows how many government agencies there are in the first place?

i think z mentioned there was like 300, at his last count. or when he stopped counting or something like that.

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And all I hear the Democrats say is:

you apparently have one of their infamous brainwashing filters on your ears, cause what i hear them saying is whitey is a dead guy, and his little wife too. and i hear them say that, regardless of what color they are.  over and over and over and over, deep breath, and over ad nauseum. 

i take those kinds of threats, seriously, cause i like my whitey guy, and i like myself, and my kids, and friends, and even my not so friends.

let's look back to when bush was voted in for the second time.  cnn had a chart on the evening news, with a commentator who informed us all that people who live in the red states (repubs), had less education, had lower iqs, and several other completely out of left field, totally ridiculous accusations. 

later, i learned this is a socialist tactic -- you must first reduce your target population to subhuman status. what you see that guy doing in the op, is proving that it doesn't take a rocket scientist to be derogatory and smug. but it does take a socialist to try to socially engineer a country by referring to half its population as a subspecies.

[petrus4]

to me, he doesn't represent a free-ing influence.  there's no illuminating knowledge there worth exploring other than his twisted mind,  nor does he provide any kind of logical rationale worth mentioning, that'd convince me that his behavior, where she was concerned, was necessary, logical or anything short of plum crazy.

The point was to create a scenario where seemingly the only available choice, was either self-betrayal via capitulation to tyranny, or death; such that facing death would prove a sufficiently liberating experience that such self-betrayal was no longer possible.

It was to convey that that is the essence of self-management, and therefore sovereignty; the realisation that regardless of what happens, the one capacity that we always retain, is the ability to choose how we will respond to said events.  Victor Frankl wrote of that, after his own experience during the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

http://www.freeyourmindaz.com/uploads/1/2/8/3/12830241/the-most-dangerous-superstition-larken-rose-2011.pdf

This is something else, related to this topic, that I could share with you.  I think you'll find it considerably less twisted, although to a large extent it conveys the same message.

i get really fed up with the movie themes that suggest that anyone who has a spiritual bone in their bodies must be divulged of it, post haste, unless it happens to look just like their bone.  for their own good.  what a bunch of crap

I don't really understand how you came to this interpretation, I will confess.

[Glaucon]

I'm a white male. I hear what you described ALL the time. I'm very consciously aware that EVERY ethnicity group has some sort of organization based, and named, solely on their ethnic heritage. And I'm well aware when my kind congregate, we're considered supremacists and racists.

I have recently made the decision to move out of Silicon Valley and move to Chandler Arizona where my sister is. I feel uncomfortable, left out, and alone in my area now.

[undo11]

part of the "war"  of ideologies in the usa, is the old battle between catholics and protestants..   many of the original usa citizens were non catholics, fleeing europe, not just to get away from the poverty and taxation, but the inquisitions and other travesties, leveled by the catholic church against non-catholics.

when king henry wanted a divorce and the pope wouldn't give it to him, he started the church of england, put his own minster in and had him give him a divorce. if you'll recall, elizabeth the first, was his daughter.  she was a "non catholic" queen (et.al, a protestant).  this was a big deal and several attempts were made on her life, in order to replace her with a catholic one.  this kinda stuff went on for a long time, like hundreds of years. 

v represents guy fawkes, a catholic dude who was trying to blow up the protestant parliament. the official catholic church's political position in the usa, is democrat, in direct opposition to the protestant position of "conservative" and one of the reasons for that is, protestants fled to the usa to get away from the royals and the vatican.   we were taught from the time we were small children, the stories of how our ancestors fled the corruption, greed and persecution, to form a better country that is now being systematically torn apart by socialists, who are willing to see half of us dead in order to fulfill some lofty goal of a socialist utopia that we all know is not meant to be anything other than a big stinking pile of dead bodies and not an utopia at all.

v is the catholic church.  he's the mob. he's a fascist pretending to be a freeing influence, when in fact, it's like out of the frying pan, into the fire.  people fled to this country to get away from that sh.it

remember remember the 5 of november.  it's all over the world now, dealing out justice and mercy and stealing people's money and doling out mob justice. i can almost see the pitchforks and torches. 

[Pimander]

part of the "war"  of ideologies in the usa, is the old battle between catholics and protestants..   many of the original usa citizens were non catholics, fleeing europe, not just to get away from the poverty and taxation, but the inquisitions and o

I thought the USA was a Roman creation.

Tupper Saussy: Rulers of Evil

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I thought the USA was a Roman creation.

Tupper Saussy: Rulers of Evil

reading it now.  this is depressing.  thanks alot, pim lol
oh dear.

uh, any place left on the planet that actually likes human beings and doesn't hate white people?

[undo11]

oh my, z  should know that this guy is saying rosicrucianism was governed, secretly, by the black pope. he may disagree with that assumption and i'd sure be interested to know on what basis, so i could add the data to my own timeline.

i think the author may be wrong on a few of his points, such as his belief that enoch was marduk (mercury).  if you look at the who begat whos in the book of genesis, prior to noah, you find enoch, a pre flood character. 

marduk, on the other hand, was post flood, as is evidenced in the writings of his priests, who declared that he had done all the deeds hitherto listed as being done by enki, anu and enlil, and recounted in the sumerian literature, which had been buried under 8ft of flood silt and only recovered less than 100 years ago. 

this means that for thousands of years, scholars, historians and archaeologists, had only the data of marduk's priests and later priests, by which to determine ancient, pre - black sea flood history of sumer (that is, if you don't count the torah (old testament deutorocannonical books)). 

so i think he's wrong on at least one of his points. part of the problem is then, that the ancient data on marduk, as recounted by his priests, is in itself, disinfo.  yep, 5000 year old conspiracy. lol

[petrus4]

I thought the USA was a Roman creation.

Tupper Saussy: Rulers of Evil

It is.  As I've said before, the Jeffersonian Republic is a clone of the Augustine Principate.

As for that PDF Pimander, thanks, but I've not long woken up; so it's a bit early for Baphomet.

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It is.  As I've said before, the Jeffersonian Republic is a clone of the Augustine Principate.

As for that PDF Pimander, thanks, but I've not long woken up; so it's a bit early for Baphomet.

oh it doesn't talk much about baphomet at all, it's mostly about the jesuits, and other pieces of eyebrow raising data, such as reagan giving the pope his own state inside washington dc, and the subsequent dissatisfaction of many who felt it was a direct violation of church and state laws.

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this stuff reads like a chess game.

[zorgon]

i think z mentioned there was like 300, at his last count. or when he stopped counting or something like that.

I was only counting the spook and military ones 

120 spook agencies alone when I stopped counting   

[Pimander]

this stuff reads like a chess game.

It is a chess game and it is still going on.  That book is a real eye opener.

120 spook agencies alone when I stopped counting   

Don't forget the British, Chinese, Russians, Israeli and Vatican agencies.  At least 500 effective spy agencies without mentioning the other G8 nations.

If you fart, they know about it.

[zorgon]

other's people's money is not YOUR money. it's theirs. like your house is yours, not mine. 
that's why when you borrow other people's money, you are expected to pay it back (oftentimes with interest so that they benefit from the transaction), unless they give it to you or loan it to you, how could you be using it legally or even ethically?

In the financial world the term 'other people's money' is NOT used in the context you think it is...

It works like this....

Say I have $20,000 cash on hand in one lump sum. I could put that money in the bank and pay my bills with it. Eventually it would be gone... right?

Well  I have another option....

I can deposit that $20,000 into a long term deposit say 4 years  and earn interest on at at prime rate, and that interest accumulates like a mortgage. (something like 50% over the 4 year term)  So each month your 20K starts to increase

I can then ask for say $15,000 of that to be assigned to a LINE OF CREDIT... 

Since that line of credit is backed by my own cash, any amount of that I use is charges a very small interest rate.  Further more If I say use 10K at the beginning of the month and pay back say 8K before the end of the month I only pay interest on the 2K outstanding balance

THIS is called using other peoples money. The bank is letting ME use the money of other depositors because they have my money in security in case I default

So how does this help you ask?  Well  by simply doing that even before you actually use it  you now have a net worth of 35,000 (I could have set the account for 19K but no need to do so) On top of that because this now bumps your CREDIT RATING very high... (because you have 20K in a secure deposit and you have a 15K line of credit untapped)

That new credit rating means the bank will issue you a premium credit card with a limit of say $3,000 so your net credit worth is now $38,000

Since this is all backed by your own cash, the other people's money is safe and you get to use it for a very low interest rate

Now naturally if you don't pay attention and go out on spending sprees this will soon collapse. However if you are diligent you will have mastered step one of using other people's money

[zorgon]

Another use of Other Peoples' Money....

Now THIS one is actually really cool  and can help people get out of the hole and rebuild good credit.

It requires TWO things to work

1) A small steady income

2) A strong will!   

If you do not have #2 you can use a friend or relative to be your will


I am going to use 10 for the demo, because it is easy to work with and easier to track for the beginner

Sure this will NOT work if you do not have #1  It's not a magic cure    But for those who can meet condition #1 and # 2 this CAN make a huge difference

It works like this...

You need $500.00   You need to be able to put aside about $120 a month. You will NOT lose this money, you only need to be able to put it aside for about 12 months

Step One:  Get a credit card!!!   

Okay not just ANY credit card... You need to find one that has NO ANNUAL FEE... there are hundreds available

When you get this credit card... you will GIVE THEM the $500.00 to hold as a secured payment on that card.  They will then issue you a card that has a $500.00 credit limit (many will issue you one that has a $750 limit but if your credit is in the toilet expect only the $500.00)

There will be NO approvals, qualifications, checks etc needed because your card is a SECURED card. It is secured by your own cash

Step 2:   

Take that credit card to a bank machine and withdraw a cash advance of $500.00  (You may need to add a few bucks here depending on the transaction fees etc but that is only a few dollars)

So at this point you have

1) One secured credit card with a $500 limit
2) One bank account with $500 cash in it (but you cannot withdraw that yet)
3) $500 cash from the ATM

Effectively you have 1500.00 (1000.00 of which is other peoples money)

Step 3:

Go get a second secured credit card, then repeat Step 2

At this point you now have..

1) TWO secured credit cards with a limit of $500 each ($1000)
2) TWO bank accounts each with $500 ($1000) (you CANNOT withdraw this yet)
3) $500 cash from the 2nd ATM

At this point your initial $500 (give or take a few bucks for fees) has become $2500 of CREDIT VALUE

At this point it has not cost you any interest and you still have your initial $500 in your pocket

At this point if you did nothing, you would lose NOTHING.

Do this until you have TEN secured cards.

Then take those 10 cards and either lock them in a safe, cut them up or give them to a friend to hold on to for you. (this is the 'strong will' part


Now at the end of the month you will get 10 bills for the minimum payment on each card... This is were the small income comes in.  You MUST pay that minimum amount (it will usually be $5-15 depending on the terms of the card. You can shop around for the best cards if you want)

So what is the purpose of this? What is the benefit?

Well EFFECTIVELY it is a forced saving plan AND it INSTANTLY fixes your credit score because IF you make those small minimum payments on time you will have 10 secured cards showing A+ credit reports. Trust me your score will LEAP up as soon as you make that 1st payment

At the end of 12 months of making those small payments something magic happens.You will find that the banks will now consider you a non risk and no longer require the cards to be secured. They will also automatically DOUBLE the credit limit

So at the end of 12 months you will have;

1) 10 credit cards with a limit of $1000 each ($10,000)
2) 10 bank accounts with $500 each ($5,000)
3) A very good credit rating with 20 accounts in good standing

Yes you can now withdraw that money, after all it is YOURS because you paid off the card debt to YOU.




Now I learned this from a real estate broker...  he took this method to a higher level

What he did is he had 200 of these cards. He would find a property that was cheap... make an offer on it with a deposit (this gives you 90 days to come up with financing. If you don't come up with financing the offer comes off but you lose $1000)

So he would find the right property, use the ATM to withdraw the down payment from his shoebox full of cards... and make the deal

He would then find a buyer (usually he had some waiting)

So before he had to make the first payment on those cards he would have already sold it to another buyer.

He was never greedy but would flip them for 10-30K profit, pay off those cards and be all set to do it again

THAT is using Other People's Money.

It is LEGAL. Everyone wins and THAT is how the rich get richer