Behind the Mask: Aliens or Cosmic Jokers?

[The Matrix Traveller]

Religion:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/religion

religion (r??l?d??n)
n
1. belief in, worship of, or obedience to a supernatural power or powers considered to be divine or to have control of human destiny

2. any formal or institutionalized expression of such belief: the Christian religion.

3. the attitude and feeling of one who believes in a transcendent controlling power or powers

4.  (Roman Catholic Church) RC Church the way of life determined by the vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience entered upon by monks, friars, and nuns: to enter religion.

5. something of overwhelming importance to a person: football is his religion.

6.
a. the practice of sacred ritual observances

b. sacred rites and ceremonies

[C12: via Old French from Latin religi? fear of the supernatural, piety, probably from relig?re to tie up, from re- + lig?re to bind]

[onetruekeeper]

LOL..
Buddhists are the ultimate pragmatists. They don't believe in spirits either.
Their materialistic world view would put even the Marxists to shame.

[onetruekeeper]

Zorgon,
I am curious...once your reincarnation cycle ends, where would you go and are you still going to be human?

[Sinny]

Zorgon,
I am curious...once your reincarnation cycle ends, where would you go and are you still going to be human?

He'll be a discarnate ether spirit floating around in another densisty, living without all those human qualities he spent so long in 'learning' about ahahaha. 

[ArMaP]

Zorgon,
I am curious...once your reincarnation cycle ends, where would you go and are you still going to be human?

You have to insert another coin.

[petrus4]

Zorgon,
I am curious...once your reincarnation cycle ends, where would you go and are you still going to be human?

According to the Ra material at least, reincarnation ceases to mean very much in practical terms by 5th density, because that is the point at which you start to exist acorporeally full time anyway.

We are currently very late 3rd density, transitioning into 4th; and the way you can tell this, is because of the fact that we are starting to consciously play with things like synchronicity, or the Law of Attraction.  You don't get to control synchronicity to that degree in pure 3D; stuff more just happens to you.

4D is the last primarily corporeal density; which means that it's also the last density in which the STS polarity (or the so-called "bad guys") are able to run/create an entire society according to their value system.  4D also isn't neutral in the same way 3D is.  A 4D society is either primarily STO or STS; there's a lot less middle ground.  Hence the reason why it seems as though we're pushing towards utopia on the one hand, or extinction on the other.

This is also the entire reason why the cabal are running their current game.  They know that we're about to move into 4D, one way or the other, and they want to make sure that the 4D society which gets established here, is STS, or negatively polarised.  Given that most of us are as self-centered as we are, (myself included) it's potentially going to be a fairly close race; although I need to remember to get out of the habit of saying such things, as well, because I'm actually reinforcing them every time I do.

[zorgon]

You have to insert another coin.

The problem arises when people try to insert fake coins     That is REALLY BAD Karma

[zorgon]

Buddhists are the ultimate pragmatists. They don't believe in spirits either.

What Reincarnation is Not

Reincarnation is not a simple physical birth of a person; for instance, John being reborn as a cat in the next life. In this case John possesses an immortal soul which transforms to the form of a cat after his death. This cycle is repeated over and over again. Or if he is lucky, he will be reborn as a human being. This notion of the transmigration of the soul definitely does not exist in Buddhism.

A gross misunderstanding of about Buddhism exists today, especially in the notion of reincarnation. The common misunderstanding is that a person has led countless previous lives, usually as an animal, but somehow in this life he is born as a human being and in the next life he will be reborn as an animal, depending on the kind of life he has lived.

This misunderstanding arises because people usually do not know-how to read the sutras or sacred writings. It is said that the Buddha left 84,000 teachings; the symbolic figure represents the diverse backgrounds characteristics, tastes, etc. of the people. The Buddha taught according to the mental and spiritual capacity of each individual. For the simple village folks living during the time of the Buddha, the doctrine of reincarnation was a powerful moral lesson. Fear of birth into the animal world must have frightened many people from acting like animals in this life. If we take this teaching literally today we are confused because we cannot understand it rationally.

Herein lies our problem. A parable, when taken literally, does not make sense to the modern mind. Therefore we must learn to differentiate the parables and myths from actuality. However, if we learn to go beyond or transcend the parables and myths, we will be able to understand the truth.

People will say "If such is the case why not speak directly so that we will be able to come to an immediate grasp of the truth?" This statement is understandable, but truth is often inexpressible. [Ed comment: we as human beings are limited in understanding "Buddha Knowledge". We cannot speak TRUTH, only words ABOUT Truth] Thus, writers and teachers have often resorted to the language of the imagination to lead the reader from a lower to a higher truth. The doctrine of reincarnation is often understood in this light.

Basic Guide to Buddhism

[zorgon]

This is also the entire reason why the cabal are running their current game.  They know that we're about to move into 4D, one way or the other, and they want to make sure that the 4D society which gets established here, is STS, or negatively polarised.  Given that most of us are as self-centered as we are, (myself included) it's potentially going to be a fairly close race; although I need to remember to get out of the habit of saying such things, as well, because I'm actually reinforcing them every time I do.

Karma

Karma is a Sanskrit word from the root "Kri" to do or to make and simply means "action." It operates in the universe as the continuous chain reaction of cause and effect. It is not only confined to causation in the physical sense but also it has moral implications. "A good cause, a good effect; a bad cause a bad effect" is a common saying. In this sense karma is a moral law.

Now human beings are constantly giving off physical and spiritual forces in all directions. In physics we learn that no energy is ever lost; only that it changes form. This is the common law of conservation of energy. Similarly, spiritual and mental action is never lost. It is transformed. Thus Karma is the law of the conservation of moral energy.

By actions, thoughts, and words, man is releasing spiritual energy to the universe and he is in turn affected by influences coming in his direction. Man is therefore the sender and receiver of all these influences. The entire circumstances surrounding him is his karma.

With each action-influence he sends out and at the same time, receives, he is changing. This changing personality and the world he lives in, constitute the totality of his karma.

Karma should not be confused with fate. Fate is the notion that man's life is preplanned for him by some external power, and he has no control over his destiny. Karma on the other hand, can be changed. Because man is a conscious being he can be aware of his karma and thus strive to change the course of events. In the Dhammapada we find the following words, "All that we are is a result of what we have thought, it is founded on our thoughts and made up of our thoughts."

What we are, then, is entirely dependent on what we think. Therefore, the nobility of man's character is dependent on his"good" thoughts, actions, and words. At the same time, if he embraces degrading thoughts, those thoughts invariably influence him into negative words and actions.

Basic Guide to Buddhism


Karma, Law of Attraction, Newton's Law...

All different ways to say the same thing...

"You Reap that which you Sow"

[zorgon]

According to the Ra material at least, reincarnation ceases to mean very much in practical terms by 5th density, because that is the point at which you start to exist acorporeally full time anyway.

We are currently very late 3rd density, transitioning into 4th; and the way you can tell this, is because of the fact that we are starting to consciously play with things like synchronicity, or the Law of Attraction.  You don't get to control synchronicity to that degree in pure 3D; stuff more just happens to you.

Dr Micheal Newton has explained this in another way... using the Aura as a guideline. Esoteric teachings from Ancient Tibetans to New Age Mystics have mentioned the Aura. Psychic and Faith Healers heal by manipulation of the Aura. Kirlian Photography can record this Aura. Religions have long expressed this Aura as a halo... originally depicted as a golden glow around the entire body, but reduced to a halo in modern times

This will answer about the inbetween stage as well...


The books by Newton and his students draw upon thousands of transcripts of people who, under hypnotic regression, have re-experienced being between lives. From the higher perspective of their soul they are able to explain what happens after death and before birth. This includes information about the levels of consciousness through which reincarnating souls evolve.

What Newton and others have discovered is that souls between lives exist in light-form, and that each soul emanates a particular colour of the spectrum which indicates its current level of consciousness.

The spectrum begins at white (all colours) but then goes through red, yellow, green, blue, to deep purple and violet. From low frequency to high frequency. The least evolved souls — the "newbies" — have a pinkish hue. The oldest souls — those nearing the end of the whole reincarnational cycle — have a blueish hue.

Although the spectrum is a continuum, Dr. Newton has found that it can be divided into five distinct stages or levels of evolvement, from Level I to Level V. These can be mapped onto the five stages given in the Michael teachings, from Infant soul to Old soul.



Reincarnation: the 35 steps of soul evolution

So you could say that the 3rd density corresponds to the 3rd aural level of young souls on Earth. The explanation is different but the end result is the same. After the 5th aural level of reincarnation cycles, the cycles stop. What lies beyond that?

I have NO IDEA... it is still a long way off. That is like asking in grade school "Will I graduate college and become a brain surgeon?"  The gap is to far... we do not have the need to know that far out.

Will I still be 'human?  Define 'Human' for me first.  Again I do not know.  Ascended beings are usually described as being of light - pure energy. All our religions show us this, all the New Age stuff tells us this. All the Ancient texts tell us this and so do our Sci Fi writers,  When such a common theme appears in all doctrines, it is MOST LIKELY the truth






Journey of Souls: Case Studies of Life Between Lives Paperback – July 1, 1994
by Michael Newton

[The Matrix Traveller]

I am curious...once your reincarnation cycle ends, where would you go and are you still going to be human?

One doesn't go anywhere because 'the Real You' a Partition of LIFE is Non Dimensional.

How can you go anywhere IF your real world is 'non dimensional' ?

We experience All within a 'non Dimensional World'.

Dimension is a manufactured experience, produced by 'Dialog' within that non dimensional world.   

[The Matrix Traveller]

Herein lies our problem. A parable, when taken literally, does not make sense to the modern mind. Therefore we must learn to differentiate the parables and myths from actuality. However, if we learn to go beyond or transcend the parables and myths, we will be able to understand the truth.

People will say "If such is the case why not speak directly so that we will be able to come to an immediate grasp of the truth?" This statement is understandable, but truth is often inexpressible. [Ed comment: we as human beings are limited in understanding "Buddha Knowledge". We cannot speak TRUTH, only words ABOUT Truth] Thus, writers and teachers have often resorted to the language of the imagination to lead the reader from a lower to a higher truth. The doctrine of reincarnation is often understood in this light.

BINGO.

Z understands !

What some refer to as a Higher truth, I refer to as being more exact or informed ....   

[The Matrix Traveller]

From an interesting Ancient writing, The Gospel of Thomas,  Quote;

49.
Jesus said, "Blessed are the Solitary and Elect,
for you will find The KINGDOM.

For you are from it, and to it you will return."

50.
Jesus said,

"If they say to you, "Where did you come from?"

say to them, "We came  from THE LIGHT,

the place where THE LIGHT came into being  on its own accord

and established itself and became manifest through their IMAGE."

If they say to you "Is it you?"

say,  "We are its children, and we are the elect of THE LIVING FATHER."

If they ask you, "What is the sign of your FATHER in you?"

say to them, "It is MOVEMENT and REPOSE."

51.
His disciple said to Him, "When will the repose of the dead come about,

and when will the new world come ?"


He said to them, "What you look forward to has already come,

but you do NOT recognise it."

   

[VillageIdiot]

nm - spaz

[onetruekeeper]

What is nm-spaz?

Here is my take on reincarnation.
It does not exist. It is unproven and for most people it is unappealing in the extreme. NOBODY that I know personally want to return over and over again to this planet against their will. It is similar to the crime of false imprisonment and slavery and a gross violation of a person's rights to self determination. The so called decision made by the "higher-self" on behalf of the "lower-self" to reincarnate is no different than somebody else taking custody of another person without consent or knowledge. Either the person is making the decision of their own free will and fully aware of doing so or he is not. In the case of reincarnation, it is obviously not.

It seems to me that the only people who benefits from reincarnation are those in power that want a steady supply of servants and cannon fodder to benefit them and their descendants for all eternity. If people stopped having children then there would be no more bodies for the presumed  reincarnating souls to inhabit and the elite cabals that rule the world are going to be screwed, unless they can construct android servants.

Most of the literature that I have read on near death and afterlife experiences describe places where people live alone or in communities, there are no lawyers, judges, courts, crime or punishments. There are no governments, police or military. There is nobody in authority. There is no money, commerce, barter, trade or exchange.
There is no industry, universities or sciences. There are no physicians or hospitals.

Most of the activities the people seem to engage in are in the creative arts. Some seem to indulge in music, mathematics or creating machines that operate on make believe principles.
People there are able to take care of themselves and create whatever objects they need with their thoughts.
There is no dependency on others for anything other than companionship.

In all these places there is no mention of reincarnation or the possibility of having to return to Earth. The people there are happy and content with their situation and are planning to stay there forever.
They find "visitors" from Earth as intrusive and a reminder of the hell they just came from.

I personally feel that the reality that our Earth is presently floating in is "malfunctioning" in some way and has been that way for eons. But I believe that our reality is not going to last too long and it will someday all dissolve into the infinity from which it came. A failed experiment perhaps and one that hopefully would never be repeated.