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Started by The Matrix Traveller, November 01, 2014, 11:51:47 PM

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The Matrix Traveller



It is the 'Dialogue' that produces your experience. (Body and your little Universe)

What you interpret to be the Universes is actually NOT there at all.   :)

We 'Partitions' of LIFE exist in 'The Place of LIFE' as referred to in some ancient writings.

And the Whole 'Illusion', involving this little universe, is taking place in/from that Non Dimensional 'Environment'.

It is only the 'Dialogue' which makes you believe you universe is there,
and all that supposedly happens to me, you, and others.   :)

The 'Dialogue' is the 'Program Language' of the Mind referred to as LIFE or 'The True Mind'
i.e. 'AWARENESS'.

Some of the Ancient Writings referred to this 'Dialogue' as The WORD.

The 'Dialogue' is So Perfect it has us believing the this universe is 'Reality', but in fact,
an Interactive 'Story', there for a reason few on earth know or understand.   :)


ElectraDeath

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on November 18, 2014, 02:30:08 AM
All means ALL....  NOT Some !

So that would mean that The Light or Life and Place Of Life and The Geometric Processing System cannot be claimed to be The All Either then?, they would be just a part of The All, i.e. created by The All?.

From how you describe the process of the Beginning, that would mean only The Darkness and The Mother can probably claim to have been The All, like exclusively, though it would of been at some time in the Past before Creating other things?.  :)

The Matrix Traveller

What has always been, is 'NOTHING', but 'Nothing' is Something  :o

IF NOT, we would NOT have the word in our Language or be able to discus it !

This 'NOTHING' is of a Paradoxical and 'Astable' nature, being both 'Nothing'/'Something'.

It was this which 'Awoke'. (became 'Aware' of Itself)

It was the 'Astable State' between its 2 'States', Something and Nothing which initiated
the 1st Concept 'To & Fro'. (Oscillation)

This is WHERE 'Awareness' was born out of 'Nothing'.

Hence some of the Ancient writings, (Non Canon ... The validity of such writings, are Not so important,
but rather the 'Content' is interesting record, of ancient writings) a Carpenter/builder from Galilee,
was reported to have said, Quote;
Quote50.  Jesus said, "If they say to you, "Where did you come from?"

say to them, "We came  from The LIGHT,

the place where The LIGHT came into being  on its own accord

and established itself and became manifest through their IMAGE."

The word <their> referring to the 2 'Components'

QuoteIf they say to you "Is it you?"

say,  "We are its children, and we are the elect of The LIVING FATHER."

If they ask you, "What is the sign of your FATHER in you ?"

say to them, "It is 'MOVEMENT' and 'REPOSE'."

Note: 'Movement' and 'Repose' are Opposites !   :)

As is 'Something' and 'Nothing'. (But are sub components of itself !)

Even Scientists have huge problems/difficulties in understanding What 'Nothing' really is,
WHERE it came From, and a full understanding, of this Elusive and Complex/Involved Phenomena.



So we could say 'The ALL' is actually Nothing having Self 'AWARENESS' if you can get your head
around this subject ?

Some of the most brilliant Scientists on earth, find this subject a very difficult area to understand
in its True Context.   :)


Back in my earlier years, a Prof. invited us to bring up a subject for discussion.

I suggested the subject of 'Nothing'. (just to be a nuisance)  :)


There was an abundance of Laughter from the other Students, but Prof. interjected, saying that the Subject
was actually, the most Elusive and Complex of all Subjects.

Just one of the experiences, that inspired me, to enquire further.   :)

zorgon

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on November 18, 2014, 11:56:25 PM
What has always been, is 'NOTHING', but 'Nothing' is Something  :o

IF NOT, we would NOT have the word in our Language or be able to discus it !

This 'NOTHING' is of a Paradoxical and 'Astable' nature, being both 'Nothing'/'Something'.

It was this which 'Awoke'. (became 'Aware' of Itself)

It was the 'Astable State' between its 2 'States', Something and Nothing which initiated
the 1st Concept 'To & Fro'. (Oscillation)

This is WHERE 'Awareness' was born out of 'Nothing'.

The Nothing....





The Matrix Traveller

#64
It's interesting HOW most on Earth, fear the 'Nothing', and try in vain, turn it into 'something' it isn't.


Is it because few understand that 'Nothing' is 'Something' ?


You see there isn't anything that exists, which is NOT of a 'Pair'.

The Outer Can't exist without an Inner.

Even a Conceptual Geometric Plain with NO Material Content, can't exist without Ends in the Form
of 'Faces'.

Even IF such is visualised in our 'Imagination', it still has that 'Pair'.




The 'Absolute Centre' of anything is Non Dimensional !

And ALL has an 'Absolute Centre' whether Dimensional or Not.    :)


If Something Denies its Nothing then it renders itself Unaware and Non existent.

And IF such a Face of a 'Plane' could exist by itself, even in the Imagination, it still has an Inner and Outer.

the 'Pair' can NOT be entirely Separated, so each exist without the other.

Just like the 'Absolute Centre', can't be taken away from any Form, including the Conceptual.



I guess the Lack of knowledge (Ignorance) of 'Nothing', is what installs 'fear' in many, from the Root of 'Ignorance'.

But even 'Knowledge' can't exist without 'Ignorance' ....

To be ashamed of 'Ignorance' is to be Empty, but Emptiness is only one Component of 'Nothing',
just as 'knowledge' is a Component of 'Nothing'.



In an Ancient Writing called 'The Thunder Perfect Mind', it is written ... Quote;

QuoteYou who Know Me, be ignorant of Me, and those who have Not Known Me, let them Know Me.

For I Am Knowledge and ignorance.

I Am Shame and Boldness.

I Am Shameless; I Am Ashamed.

I Am Strength and I Am Fear.

I Am War and Peace.

Give heed to Me.

I Am The One Who is Disgraced and The Great One

Give Heed to My Poverty and My Wealth.

Do Not be Arrogant to Me when I Am cast out upon the earth,

and you will find Me in those that are to come.

And do Not look upon Me on the dung-heap,

nor go out and leave Me cast out,

and you will find Me in The Kingdoms.

And do Not look upon Me when I Am cast out

among those who are disgraced and in the least places, nor laugh at Me.

And do Not cast Me out among those who are slain in violence.

But I, I Am Compassionate and I Am cruel.

Be on your Guard ?

Do Not hate My obedience and do Not Love My Self Control.

In My weakness, do Not forsake Me, and do Not be afraid of My Power.

For why do you despise My fear and curse My pride?

But I Am She who exits in all fears and strength in trembling.

I Am She who is weak, and I Am Well in a pleasant place.

I Am Senseless and I Am Wise.

Why have you hated Me in your counsels ?

For I shall be Silent among those who are Silent,

and I shall appear and speak, why then have you hated Me,

And We are all guilty of this .... as it is Part of 'The ALL' ....

The Matrix Traveller

A subject we should NOT fear but gain more understanding about.

From the human perspective, and then from the perspective of our Real Selves (LIFE).

Below is a Conclusion of a rational paper, about death and dying.

But 1st here is some of my thoughts on the subject.

Most will wonder Why I bring up this subject ?

It lays in the root of human Psychology and is probably the Common denominator behind WHAT
steers our experiences in this Experience involving our Species and the Earth/Universe.

It primarily involves this 'Nothing' so many fear and portray it in movies etc. in various ways.

I am NOT talking about so much about the Phobia of Death, but rather the human response in general.

The whole paper the Conclusion is from in fact is a very good and balanced overall view of the subject.

Many believe that the knowledge of Nothing (believed to be Nothingness) is behind our fear of death.

IF it is it is because of the myths regarding the word 'Nothing'.

It's when we come to understand and accept the NOTHING is actually Something in that these 2 Components
exist as a Unique Pair, in that they are Opposites and Can NOT be totally Separated.


What is most Important is the 'Component' which exists between the 'Opposites' which behaves very much
like that of a Comparator and the whole of existence is based on, the comparing of anything with anything.

It is HOW we distinguish 'Form', the expression of 'Geometry' comes from.

And without it there is No 'Dialogue' and thus NO experience or even the knowledge of 'Self'.

It is the Activity taking place between these 'Opposites' (Conceptual 'ENDS') the Nature (Spirit) is
produced. We could say that LIFE is the State of Activity between the 'ENDS' and this is WHY
in religious beliefs LIGHT is associated with the LIFE.


In the Not so distant future, the world (Earth) will obtain the knowledge that LIGHT is in fact the result
of the Activity of LIFE.

In other words it is the 'To & Fro' action between the 'Opposites' (BLACK & WHITE) as well as the Mixing
of these 2 'Components', which are essentially 'Communication', in that Change is involved.


Without 'Change' being presented, 'Communication' can NOT exist, for it involves
the Presentation of Change.

For example in the English Language it is achieved by the change in Sound or in written material
as change presented in the form of 'Strings' of Letters forming 'Strings' of Words which essentially
uses art (Form) in the form of 'Strings' of Stick Drawings.


The Same applies to our experience involving the human species and its environment for it also involves
change.

It is produced by the changing forms within our sight, ALL other forms of experience is derived from !
Such as 'Taste', 'Touch', 'Smell', 'Thought', and others. Even our 'Emotions' are derive from 'Form'.

So there is Nothing at all to fear from the understanding of this 'Nothing/Something', but instead
everything to gain.   :)


So here is the Link.

http://www.sagepub.com/upm-data/5233_Bryant_Sample_Article_Universal_Fear.pdf

QuoteCONCLUSION
The evidence suggests that human progress is indeed ultimately driven by the fear of death.

Death, in all its complexity, finality, and absurdity, its challenge to existence, its ugliness, pain,
and isolation, and its power to deprive, continues to hold sway over humankind.

The anthropological record suggests that early human societies experienced death as children
might, as a faceless, nameless horror that sought to deprive them of the few pleasures offered
by existence.
There were understandably mixed reactions to death, accept its lordship, make excuses for it,
create a more powerful friend to humankind and enemy to death, avoid it, embrace it, or deny
its finality.

Experience with the world over time suggested a variety of means for incorporating the unwanted
and yet ever present guest into the human household.

The history of humankind represents the sum total of the various experiments that have evolved
to minimise the effects of death's constant presence in the midst of human society.

Death has been inextricably linked to the death of the body and the body's fallibilities,its susceptibility
to disease, injury, and death.

Humans have sought to blame themselves for the body's weaknesses and have established practices
aimed at strengthening the body, through morality, diet, exercise, medicine, magic, and supplications
to the gods.

The spirit or soul, on the other hand, has come to be conceptualized in most cultures as the seat
of reason, hope, truth, and immortality.

NOTE: The original Definition of the Word Soul was certainly NOT just another name
for 'Spirit' but however this does NOT lessen the validity of the comments made in this Paper.

The Definition of the Word Soul today has evolved in such a way through history, the original definition
has become LOST !

QuoteHumans have dichotomised themselves and convinced themselves that if only they could
be free of the body, then they could be truly free.

Yet most still fear the prospect of a bodiless existence, so much so that many religions offer a new body
on the other side of death.

One of the most basic responses to death in all human societies has therefore been to place restrictions
on the fulfilment of bodily desires.

Yet excessive self-denial of the body by an overreaching conscience can be equally harmful to the being.

Societies can lean toward either too little discipline and too much self-indulgence or too many restrictions
on human desire and creativity.

Both paths Universal Fear of Death and Cultural Response–•–11 01-I-Vol-I-Bryant.qxd 8/14/03 5:56 PM Page 11
can lead to the very death whose avoidance is sought.

The theme of psychoanalysis for individuals and for societies should therefore be the same,
to prevent individuals or societies from being overwhelmed by either the desires of the body
or the strictures of conscience and law.

The goal is to develop a healthy balance of the two forces, so the personality of the individual or society
can live life with maximum success, which means maximum happiness and pleasure and minimum pain
and suffering.

It is this ideal that is embodied in the modern human project.

Culture is the primary vehicle through which passion and reason are mediated, and by which the pangs
of death are lessened.

Culture ennobles efforts at self-restraint and turns into heroes those who deny the self and face the possibility
of self-annihilation for a larger cause.

Through culture, the insulting banality that death confers on life is transformed through symbolism
into a noble quest for being, a heroic struggle against the forces of evil.

Funerals, birth ceremonies, remembrances of the dead, memorials, holy days, and other rituals,
as well as art, literature, and drama, all seek to clothe the stark, absurd events of life and death
within a system that gives human history meaning and purpose.

Cultural productions order seemingly random and meaningless events into coherent narratives
whose ultimate goal is to grant dignity to humans in the face of the utter disregard that nature
seems to have for life.

In sum, although death's sovereignty will persist for some time to come, the human spirit will forever
struggle to deprive it of its central place in human existence.

An Excellent Paper, but I don't go along with it 100%, but it does reflect the attitudes of
the human species at large.

The whole Paper is still worth reading though.


Referring to 'Nothingness'

NOTE: Nothingness is only a little part of the Component 'Nothing' !


Another ...

http://www.grin.com/en/e-book/92405/the-fear-of-nothingness-in-hemingway-s-a-clean-well-lighted-place

The Fear of Nothingness in Hemingway's "A Clean, Well-Lighted Place"

QuoteExcerpt

'The Fear of Nothingness'
in Hemingway's "A Clean, Well-Lighted Place"

IN his stylistic masterpiece, "A Clean, Well-Lighted Place," Ernest Hemingway confronts his readers
with the omnipresent fear of nothingness. The main characters of the story show different ways
of dealing with that  problem, but only the older waiter is able to present a satisfying solution.

By establishing a haven for all desperate people who need a dignified place to dispel their fear,
the old waiter has found his meaning in life  and therefore, his way to combat his fear of nothingness.

According to him, life does not need to be senseless and end in despair, as long as one keeps composure
and protects one's own dignity and the dignity  of others.

To ensure a better understanding of the story, it is necessary to give a brief insight into the general idea
of existentialist philosophy in advance.

Generally, the followers of this philosophical movement, originating  in Kierkegaard's and Nietzsche's
philosophical approaches in the 19th century, discuss questions about human existence and the problems
which arise from it.

The general idea of existentialist philosophy is the  assumption that, due to the absence of a transcendent
force and authority, all individuals are entirely free, and therefore, have the freedom of choice as a basic principle.

Consequently, the choice is both essential  for the human existence and inevitable, because refusing
to choose is also a choice.

In contrast to the traditional conception, the existentialists believe that an individual choice cannot
be judged objectively.

Every  individual must decide for himself what morally good behaviour is.

According to Sartre, who is deemed the founder of the French existentialism, the human being
is "condemned to be free," which is a heavy burden. Inevitably, the free choice entails the individual's
ultimate responsibility for his or her decisions, regardless of the consequences.

According to the existentialists, it is a basic state of all human beings to  live with the permanent fear
of being threatened.

It is a profound fear of the uncertain, the existential fear of nothingness.

The philosophical term, used for this anxiety, is angst.

The story takes up the existentialist  approaches and shows different possible options in dealing with it.

The concept of angst is transferred into the idea that an omnipresent fear of nothingness exists,
which drives the human being into despair, if he does not find a way to cope with his fear.

Furthermore, the story has adopted the assumption that a transcendent power does not exist
and therefore, the human being cannot rely on anything, which will combat his  fear.

Accordingly, he has to find his own way of dealing with the fear of nothingness and to bear
the consequences of his decisions on his own.

Each character of the story has found a way in dealing with the  problem, but only one character
seems to be able to present a convincing possibility.

As mentioned before, the fear of nothingness seems to dominate "A Clean, Well-Lighted Place"
and therefore, it is essential to comprehend what is meant by the term and how it is realized in the story.
Looking at the story from an existentialist point of view, the fear of nothingness of the old man
and the old waiter is an omnipresent dread, which threatens their existence.

According to Steven K. Hoffman, the nothingness "was not fear or dread" (383), which would imply
a specific object to be feared, but a pervasive uneasiness, an existential anxiety that, according
to Heidegger, arises when one becomes fully aware of the  precarious status of his very being.

On the basis of this statement, nothingness is not a specific threat, but a universal state,
a certain uneasiness that shows different incarnations, which appear to every individual in different ways.

One of the most fearsome incarnations of nothingness is death, which is present in the story
in the death of the old man's wife and his own attempted suicide.

Death can occur to anyone at any time and is therefore a clear proof of  the radical contingency
and limitation of the human being.

xizd

Would suicide be the overcoming of the fear of nothingness, or the giving in to the despair of nothingness? Is it an acceptable way to explore the possibilities of death?
The non-dimensional environment which our souls inhabit, can we sense the existence of other souls? Can we communicate with other souls? Are we absorbed in the experiences of our meat puppets, or are we able to turn away from the story and experience other things?
Please ignore if these are irrelevant questions or the answers don't really matter.
Thank you Matrix for taking the time and making the effort to help us understand things that are so foreign to us. It must be exasperating from your perspective.
My hope is that continual exposure will lead to understanding, eventually.

The Matrix Traveller

#67
Quote from: xizd on November 21, 2014, 01:31:40 PM
Would suicide be the overcoming of the fear of nothingness, or the giving in to the despair of nothingness? Is it an acceptable way to explore the possibilities of death?
The non-dimensional environment which our souls inhabit, can we sense the existence of other souls? Can we communicate with other souls? Are we absorbed in the experiences of our meat puppets, or are we able to turn away from the story and experience other things?
Please ignore if these are irrelevant questions or the answers don't really matter.
Thank you Matrix for taking the time and making the effort to help us understand things that are so foreign to us. It must be exasperating from your perspective.
My hope is that continual exposure will lead to understanding, eventually.
_______________________________


QuoteWould suicide be the overcoming of the fear of nothingness, or the giving in to the despair of nothingness?
Is it an acceptable way to explore the possibilities of death?

The Experiences of those who have committed suicide, and returned to this experience, usually reveal
a very unpleasant experience.

My thoughts on the subject of Suicide is that perhaps the real issue, is that most if not all are trying to 'dodge'
this experience for whatever reasons.

This world (Experience) is here for a reason! Which is NOT for reasons most may imagine.

It is therefore of the utmost importance we complete the experience (Earth Program) and NOT try or Attempt
to dodge it .

QuoteThe non-dimensional environment which our souls inhabit, can we sense the existence of other souls?

There is a Environment we need to know about and understand. There is an 'Environment' involving Souls
as they were referred to in Ancient Writings, ((The knowledge now Lost due to the changing Definition
of the Word Soul, through History brought about by both 'Politics', 'religion' (an Institution of Politics)
and the 'Scribes'. (Those setting the Standards involving written language as well as translating))
which is the Outer World we view from.

It is this Environment we return to on the completion of experiencing this world.
The Outer Abode also involves a world based on the principals of Dimension or form which may
be interpreted as what some think is the Spiritual world in today's understanding by those in the Earth program.

It is the World we return to (In the same place as all this is taking place in a Non-Dimensional 'Environment'
producing the Illusion of 'Dimension' through 'Dialogue', involving a Processing Language.

In that world 'Video Interfaces' are used, to experience such worlds as the Earth.


In this Environment; Can we Quote;
Quotecan we sense the existence of other souls?

The short answer is YES.

Now beyond this abode exists the Soul, which is a 'Partition' of a huge 'Network' of a similar Construction
as the Soul, sometimes referred to as 'The 1st Born Soul', (Our Souls are in this Construct) and to answer
your question Quote]
QuoteThe non-dimensional environment which our souls inhabit, can we sense the existence of other souls?

Again the Short answer is YES.

But a Soul does NOT Inhabit 'The Place of LIFE' as many might think of or want to believe.

But I suppose you could say the soul does depending on ones interpretation of the word 'Inhabit'.

Let me explain it in this way; Rather than the Soul inhabiting 'The Place of LIFE' it is around
the other way, where rather the case is, LIFE inhabits the Soul.

The Soul is really a Partition MAP used in Processing Which a LIFE uses. (LIFE being interpreted as
a State of 'Awareness' and 'Self Awareness. (or being Awake NOT asleep)

For example in one ancient writing 'The Dialogue of The Savior',  Quote;
QuoteMatthew said, "Tell me, Lord, how the dead die, and how the Living Live?"

140.
The Lord said, "You have asked Me for a word about that which eye has not seen,
nor have I heard about it, except from you.

But I say to you, that when that which moves man is withdrawn he will be called 'dead,'
and when The Living one sets free the dead one, he will be called Living.'"

Judas said, "Why then, by The Truth, do they die and Live?"

The Lord said, "He Who is from The Truth does NOT die;

he who is from the woman dies."

To be dead is to be Unaware i.e. Asleep ....  and to be Alive is to be 'Aware'.

I am referring to The LIFE and NOT to the flesh/body or 'Avatar'.

Avatar:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_person_(video_games)

QuoteGames with a first-person perspective are usually avatar-based, wherein the game displays
what the player's avatar would see with the avatar's own eyes.

Thus, players typically cannot see the avatar's body, though they may be able to see the avatar's weapons
or hands.





So Death is Unawareness ....   LIFE is 'AWARENESS' and 'SELF AWARENESS' itself.

Once again as in the following text refers to the flesh/body or 'Avatar' (the individual Species or body Program)
as being dead but something else being alive ! In another ancient writing,  Quote;
Quote56.
Jesus said, "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a Corpse,

and whoever has found a Corpse is Superior to the world."

The quotes I have give are NOT intended for religious interpretation but rather to show throughout history
many have been inspired by these thoughts.

Another from the same writing, also referring to both the Flesh/body or 'Avatar' and the Soul, Quote;

Quote87.
Jesus said, "Wretched is the body that is  dependent upon a body,

and wretched is the soul that is dependent on these two."

But rather we should be dependant on LIFE because LIFE is the 'Real Self' and Eternal,
Not like the 'Avatar'

IF and WHEN we are honest with ourselves such thoughts may arise about these Questions
especially when our experience of Earth draws nearer.

QuoteCan we communicate with other souls?

One 'Partition' of LIFE can communicate with another through the Soul, in the form of Geometric Language,
once known as the ZION (NOT Hebrew) language on Earth.

QuoteAre we absorbed in the experiences of our meat puppets, or are we able to turn away from the story and experience other things?

The experience of the human Avatar and Earth are very Important, performing a 'Function' Critical
to the upgrading of the 'Processing System' (Soul).

There is an old saying ....
You can NOT LOVE the 'TREE' and Hate the 'FRUIT', neither can you LOVE the 'FRUIT' and Hate the 'TREE'.

So many do exactly this.

But I say.... LOVE both the' TREE' and Its 'FRUIT' !

If we don't .....  then it is Hypocrisy !

QuotePlease ignore if these are irrelevant questions or the answers don't really matter.
Thank you Matrix for taking the time and making the effort to help us understand things that are so foreign to us.
It must be exasperating from your perspective.
My hope is that continual exposure will lead to understanding, eventually.

Your questions are at the very 'Root' in understanding this World (Earth Experience).   :)

Many others as well, should be asking Questions regarding the Earth and Universe.

astr0144

Hi Matrix,

When the / our  Human Primate body dies...You say we comes back again to continue to experience the Earth and Human Primate programs again and again.

How soon after our bodies die , do we become reborn ?

When we are born again...I take it we appear to come back again as babies with new parents...

When our parents body Avatars die...How quickly are they reborn.. and if this is within a short time...is there any way we as their children, can tell who the new borns are...who appears to be their parents and where they may live ?

Likewise when our bodies die...and we appear to become reborn..and to have parents...in terms of becoming avatars again...Is there any way we chose who our Parents will be come the next life experience as a Human Primate ?

The Matrix Traveller

#69
Quote from: astr0144 on November 22, 2014, 12:19:58 AM
Hi Matrix,

When the / our  Human Primate body dies...You say we comes back again to continue to experience the Earth and Human Primate programs again and again.

How soon after our bodies die , do we become reborn ?

When we are born again...I take it we appear to come back again as babies with new parents...

When our parents body Avatars die...How quickly are they reborn.. and if this is within a short time...is there any way we as their children, can tell who the new borns are...who appears to be their parents and where they may live ?

Likewise when our bodies die...and we appear to become reborn..and to have parents...in terms of becoming avatars again...Is there any way we chose who our Parents will be come the next life experience as a Human Primate ?

Astr0
QuoteWhen the / our  Human Primate body dies...You say we comes back again to continue to experience the Earth and Human Primate programs again and again.

This is ONLY ONE of many different Scenarios ...   :)

Astr0
QuoteHow soon after our bodies die , do we become reborn ?

ZERO !

The Reason being that Time is an Illusion of the Earth Program.

It is always NOW never tomorrow or yesterday.

It is always the 'Present'. (Having a dual meanings  :) )

The source where the 'Sequential' based programs are being generated from, doesn't involve 'Time',
as the Illusion of 'Time', is a Component of the 'Program' and NOT the Source.   :)

As the Program involves a 'Sequential' format (Consisting of 'Frames' in 'Stacks', with regard to the Dialogue)
it therefore contains the Illusion of 'Time'.


Astr0
QuoteWhen we are born again...I take it we appear to come back again as babies with new parents...

Have you ever played a '1st Person' Computer Game ?

If so, then you would realise the 'Avatar' in the 'gaming software', is NOT the operators Entity,
but is only the character being played, adopted by an external entity from the game.

So regarding your Question we just select another 'Avatar' in a new 'Experience' (Game),
but your 'Real Self' i.e. The LIFE remains the same 'Operator Entity'.

But because the 'Avatar' is a bit like a Program Filter your experience may have like another Character.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_(software)

QuoteA filter is a computer program or subroutine to process a stream, producing another stream.
While a single filter can be used individually, they are frequently strung together to form a pipeline.

Some operating systems such as Unix are rich with filter programs. Windows 7 and later are also rich
with filters, as they include Windows PowerShell.

In comparison, however, few filters are built into cmd.exe (the original command-line interface of Windows),
most of which have significant enhancements relative to the similar filter commands that were available
in MS-DOS. OS X includes filters from its underlying Unix base but also has Automator, which allows filters
(known as "Actions") to be strung together to form a pipeline.

Astr0
QuoteWhen our parents body Avatars die...How quickly are they reborn.. and if this is within a short time...is there any way we as their children, can tell who the new borns are...who appears to be their parents and where they may live ?

Yes there is, BUT it serves absolutely NO Purpose or advantage whatsoever, with regard
to the 'Purpose' or 'Function' of the Programs involving the Earth and WHY such programs exist.

Astr0
QuoteLikewise when our bodies die...and we appear to become reborn..and to have parents...in terms of becoming avatars again...Is there any way we chose who our Parents will be come the next life experience as a Human Primate ?

YES. But NOT in the way of 'human reasoning' as your 'Real Self' operates
from an entirely different perspective. (Involving 'Knowledge' and 'Purpose')

If you try to use your human Filter to reason .... you won't be able to discover these things.

There is ONLY 'One Way', to find the answers you seek, and that is Through LIFE itself.

I am referring to the LIFE 'Entity', rather than the 'Avatar' Character.

The 'Avatar' of the Earth environment, involves 'Double Logic' introduced about 6,000 years ago.

If we go through our LIFE 'Entity' directly to LIFE, instead of through the 'Avatar',
we can find the Correct answers.

Going Direct bypasses the 'Program Filter' (The 'Avatar') involving 'Double Logic'.

We always have the Choice, of either using the 'Avatar Program Filter' or go 'Direct' through LIFE.   :)


The other way is using a 'Video Interface' using the 'Communication Program', accessing
the Main 'Libraries' of your 'Processing System' of the Mind/LIFE and brows the manuals.   :)

astr0144

That's what I initially had thought maybe the case, but later I thought that you have said we come back again and again several times with regards having to experience the Human Primate and Earth & Universe environment programs..at least until we have experienced what is required from us..

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When the / our  Human Primate body dies...You say we comes back again to continue to experience the Earth and Human Primate programs again and again.

This is ONLY ONE of many different Scenarios ...   :)

It maybe a bit tricky to understand...

So, are you saying that as one Avatar finishes (or what we as Humans believe to be the death of some Human primate person)
that the next reborn or new Avatar already appears to have been born as soon as the previous avatar has passed away..

OR is that next avatar already born even before the dying avatar has passed...so there is NO Time in between the two..or between the 1st avatar dying and the new born arriving !


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How soon after our bodies die , do we become reborn ?

ZERO !

The Reason being that Time is an Illusion of the Earth Program.

It is always NOW never tomorrow or yesterday.

It is always the 'Present'. (Having a dual meanings  :) )

The source where the 'Sequential' based programs are being generated from, doesn't involve 'Time',
as the Illusion of 'Time', is a Component of the 'Program' and NOT the Source.   :)

As the Program involves a 'Sequential' format (Consisting of 'Frames' in 'Stacks', with regard to the Dialogue)
it therefore contains the Illusion of 'Time'.




So is that to say our Avatars are just chosen programs selected or adopted by our external LIFE entity !....

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When we are born again...I take it we appear to come back again as babies with new parents...

Have you ever played a '1st Person' Computer Game ?

If so, then you would realise the 'Avatar' in the 'gaming software', is NOT the operators Entity,
but is only the character being played, adopted by an external entity from the game.

So regarding your Question we just select another 'Avatar' in a new 'Experience' (Game),
but your 'Real Self' i.e. The LIFE remains the same 'Operator Entity'.

But because the 'Avatar' is a bit like a Program Filter your experience may have like another Character.


It may not server any valid purpose as such..but Id like to know out of curiosity who my past parent or relatives maybe now !

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When our parents body Avatars die...How quickly are they reborn.. and if this is within a short time...is there any way we as their children, can tell who the new borns are...who appears to be their parents and where they may live ?

Yes there is, BUT it serves absolutely NO Purpose or advantage whatsoever, with regard
to the 'Purpose' or 'Function' of the Programs involving the Earth and WHY such programs exist.



Interesting to know that it is possible and how it can be done !


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Likewise when our bodies die...and we appear to become reborn..and to have parents...in terms of becoming avatars again...Is there any way we chose who our Parents will be come the next life experience as a Human Primate ?

YES. But NOT in the way of 'human reasoning' as your 'Real Self' operates
from an entirely different perspective. (Involving 'Knowledge' and 'Purpose')

If you try to use your human Filter to reason .... you won't be able to discover these things.

There is ONLY 'One Way', to find the answers you seek, and that is Through LIFE itself.

I am referring to the LIFE 'Entity', rather than the 'Avatar' Character.

The 'Avatar' of the Earth environment, involves 'Double Logic' introduced about 6,000 years ago.

If we go through our LIFE 'Entity' directly to LIFE, instead of through the 'Avatar',
we can find the Correct answers.

Going Direct bypasses the 'Program Filter' (The 'Avatar') involving 'Double Logic'.

We always have the Choice, of either using the 'Avatar Program Filter' or go 'Direct' through LIFE.   :)


The other way is using a 'Video Interface' using the 'Communication Program', accessing
the Main 'Libraries' of your 'Processing System' of the Mind/LIFE and brows the manuals.   :)


The Matrix Traveller

QuoteIt may not server any valid purpose as such..but Id like to know out of curiosity who my past parent or relatives maybe now !

Do you mind me asking WHY ?

astr0144

Well, I think most Human Primates as avatars seem to have a connection with what they believe their family members or what some may say as their "loved ones" to be..

and if one believes that they are to be reborn as such... in my case Id be curious to want to know who the new born maybe...

Chances are I assume is that they probably would not be reborn locally... on this earth program to me... so unless they were...its unlikely Id ever get to see them !

Hope this gives you some understanding on my thoughts about such a situation...

The Matrix Traveller

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QuoteWell, I think most Human Primates as avatars seem to have a connection with what they believe their family members or what some may say as their "loved ones" to be..

Well what you say is NOT quite true as the 'Avatar' is the Experience and NOT 'Awareness' !

It's a bit like suggesting, a picture in an Art gallery wants to see another ....   :)

But if you look at your understanding, it really comes down to the Fact, that the Centre of the Mind
has NOT yet discovered the Difference between the Experience and the One Experiencing !

This is HOW most of us are in the beginning of this Program but in time we 'Awaken' to the Difference,
between the Experience (The 'Avatar') and the experiencer (LIFE) ...  :)

So the Priority is, for all of us is to 1st understand the Difference !

And NOT to get One 'picture' to want to see another ...  :)

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Quoteand if one believes that they are to be reborn as such... in my case Id be curious to want to know who the new born maybe...

It's NOT the 'Avatar' (Picture) which is 'Reborn' .....  neither is it LIFE which is 'Reborn'.

LIFE Continues about its business without Interruption.  :)



What is more Important the 'Garment' or the 'Wearer' ?

So it is with LIFE and the 'Avatar'.

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QuoteChances are I assume is that they probably would not be reborn locally... on this earth program to me... so unless they were...its unlikely Id ever get to see them !

IF we put anything Before LIFE we are NOT worthy of LIFE.  That means ANYTHING !

Astr0
QuoteHope this gives you some understanding on my thoughts about such a situation...

It does.... Thank you.

I hope what I have said helps.

The Matrix Traveller

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Here is a thought ...

If we consider a square area we all would agree it appears to have form.





It is obvious it has an 'Absolute Centre'. (indicated by the converging lines of the X.)

And it is interesting to Note the 'Absolute Centre' has NO Size or Shape, other wise it can't be
the 'Absolute Centre'.

So in such a simple Concept we have the 'Opposites' in the form of an Outer and an Inner.

The Outer has form, while the 'Absolute Centre' has NO Form, yet strangely the 'Absolute Centre'
still exists as being One of the 'Ends', form exists between.
One may say the 'Absolute Centre' consists of 'Nothing'.

If the location in question is not in the 'Absolute Centre' then it exists between the 'Absolute Centre'
and its Outer.

If we now place a 'Circular area' within this 'Square', and align it in such a way, that both 'Absolute Centres'
are in a Common Location, then in this location nothing would exist?





Or does something exist ?

Both the Circular and Square areas have 2 'Ends' existing in x and y axis.

One such 'End' is the 'Absolute Centre', while the other 'End' is its Outer.

We could also say One End (The Perimeter) surrounds or encircles the other End (the 'Absolute Centre').

The Outer 'End' contains Form, while the Absolute Centre 'End' has NO Form. (Size or Shape)

Now let's shift the Circular form to another location, still within the boundaries of the Square.





The 'Absolute Centre' (Consisting of Nothing) of the 'Square' is still in the same location.

And the Location of the 'Absolute Centre' of the 'Circular area' now in a different location, can also
be said to consist of 'nothing', that is going by/through human understanding.

So now within the 'Square', we have 2 Locations which are said to consist of 'Nothing'.

So now we have that 'Paradox' where each of the 2 'Locations' are both to contain 'Something' and 'Nothing'.

The Only way this can happen, is IF it involves the World of 'Concepts'.



Interesting that in Scientific Theory, it is theorised that everywhere is the centre of our Universe,
or there is NO 'Absolute Centre'.

The following short Video is about today's Concepts regarding this.

Suggesting that each of us, are the 'Centre' of observation and experience.





But Where it all falls to pieces, is that it is ASSUMED we are looking Outward to our Universe
but in fact we are doing quite the 'Opposite', and that is we are Looking Into our Universe instead.

So rather than the Universe being extremely Large .....  it is in fact tiny !

It's a question of mind in HOW we perceive what we are looking at.



But WHERE is this Universe, we are actually seeing and experiencing ?

We ASSUME it is outside the Mind and that our reality is we are all in a single huge Universe.

This is correct in, that this is the Concept of the 'Story' we are experiencing.

BUT it is NOT HOW the 'Experience' is being Generated, nor WHERE the Experience is really taking place.

Here is an Animation of us looking 360° about ourselves Horizontally.
I apologise for the poor Quality but you will get the Idea.





The above Animation s in 2D But then what we see in the 'Visual Cortex' of the Brain is also on a Disc,
acting as your restricted Field of Vision, Generated from a 2D 'Source'

You can Only ever see in front of yourself. This is NOT just because your Eyes are looking in that Direction.

It can be proven quite easily, that your eyes do NOT form your f'Field of Vision' !

If you close your Eyes, and Continue to look, you will soon become aware that the same 'Disc'
'Field of Vision' is always present in front of you, whether your eyes are either closed or open, and it is only
the 'Contents' being displayed on/in this 'Disc' which changes, producing your experience.

Everything you believe to be experiencing, is taking place within the environment of a 'Pseudo Processor'
we call the brain.

When you Dream the 'Images' of that Dream, are taking place in the 'Visual Cortex' and on the same 'Disc'
which provides your restricted 'Field of Vision'. The Eyes do play a part in all this still (Involving REM)
which I will reveal more about later.





We ONLY 'Assume' we are seeing directly what is Outside the Environment of the Brain.

But there is No Way of proving such is the same, because it involves a very, very Sophisticated Processing System,
also involving that Pseudo Processor we call the brain.

The 'Image' we see by observing the Activity within he 'Visual Cortex' of the brain is very, very small,
whose size vary from one individual to another.


www.jneurosci.org/content/17/8/2859.full.pdf+html

http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~ta505/JNeurosci_17_2859.pdf


But it is still NOT understood WHAT sees the 'Images' themselves.

Like a TV doesn't see the 'Images', but instead something else, other than the TV.

Just because Images appear on a TV Screen, doesn't imply the TV sees them ....






Below is a very short movie, but well worth watching and explains a little about the reconstruction of 'Images',
seen by a person watching a movie. This is an area involving my interests. (work/occupation)





As you can see by the Movie, the activity itself is NOT what is viewing the Images, but rather the Brain,
is acting as a 'Program Filter and something else is actually seeing the 'Images'.

It is ONLY LIFE i.e. your 'AWARENESS' of 'Consciousness' like state, which can see the 'Images,
the brain itself, by itself, is unable to see anything.


The other interesting thing is that the 'Images' reproduced, is only a very small part of the Information
be relayed to LIFE i.e. 'Awareness'.

The reason it becomes so Complex, is that it is still NOT understood the brain has 'functions'
involving 'Encoding', and WHERE that 'Encoded version' is relayed to....

The reason this is so Elusive, is because it involves an environment which is NON-DIMENSIONAL !


My line of work involves WHAT is viewing and experiencing the Program (Universe)
and the 'Processes' involved, rather than the experience itself.

By understanding these Processes enables us to approach the world in a different way and frees us
from having to rely upon ENERGY BASED SYSTEMS but rather use the 'Processing System'
which Produces/ Presents our 'Experience' (Universe etc.) enabling us to cross Galaxies in minutes,
that is IF we desire to.

I will be explaining this Technology in depth in the future.

The same Technologies involving the Processing System can be used in 'Teleport Systems', 'Transport Systems',
'Manufacture', 'Construction', 'Medical Technologies', 'Importation of objects', 'Communications', 'Pleasure',
Accessing 'Manuals' on anything which has ever existed and many other Practical uses.