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The Spin Doctors: Angola Becomes 'First Country to Ban Islam'

Started by zorgon, December 09, 2014, 12:59:00 AM

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zorgon

The Spin Doctors: Angola Becomes 'First Country to Ban Islam'
NOVEMBER 24, 2013 10:21 PM BY ROBERT SPENCER




Seems the story has gone VIRAL  Cudos for the Portuguese owned Angola

The African nation of Angola has reportedly become the first country to ban Islam and Muslims, reports On Islam. Concerning the ban, Angolan President Jose Eduardo dos Santos said Sunday "this is the final end of Islamic influence in our country."

Angola's ban was first announced last Friday, when Angolan Minister of Culture, Rosa Cruz e Silva said "the process of legalization of Islam has not been approved by the Ministry of Justice and Human rights, their mosques would be closed until further notice."

India Today reports Silva's statement was made at the 6th Commission of the Angolan National Assembly, and that the ban includes orders to demolish mosques in the country.

Silva reportedly said the ban was necessary since Islam is "contradictory to the customs of Angola culture."

Angola's population of 16 million is predominantly Christian, with only 80,000-90,000 Muslims, the majority of whom are migrants from West Africa and families of Lebanese origin, according to the US State Department.

The crackdown on Islam comes as Christians in the Middle East are being forced from Muslim countries.


Israeli Source
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/174445#.VIZIh9LF-t0

Britain First reports on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/britainfirstgb/photos/a.347167375428530.1073741829.300455573433044/652649364880328/

Jihad Watch
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/11/angola-reportedly-bans-islam-destroys-mosques

zorgon

Angola denies it banned Islam, destroyed mosques
NOVEMBER 25, 2013 6:30 PM BY ROBERT SPENCER



More on this story. "Angola Denies It Banned Islam, Destroyed Mosques," by Connor Adams Sheets for International Business Times, November 25:

Angola became a hot topic in the international media over the weekend, as news outlets around the world wrote about reports that the Southwest African nation had banned Islam and had begun to dismantle mosques.

But an official at the Angolan Embassy in Washington, D.C., who did not want to be identified while discussing the sensitive matter, said that there is no such ban, and that the reports are erroneous.

"The Republic of Angola "¦ it's a country that does not interfere in religion," the official said via telephone Monday afternoon. "We have a lot of religions there. It is freedom of religion. We have Catholic, Protestants, Baptists, Muslims and evangelical people."

News of Angola's supposed ban on Islam originated in the African press, which went so far as to quote the nation's president and minister of culture offering statements that suggested the premise of the reports was accurate.

A second official at the Angolan Embassy in the U.S. reiterated that the diplomatic seat has not been made aware of any ban on Islam in the country


Jihad Watch
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/11/angola-denies-it-banned-islam-destroyed-mosques

zorgon

So A news story created...NOVEMBER 25, 2013 6:30 PM BY ROBERT SPENCER goes viral and then the rebuttal posted NOVEMBER 25, 2013 6:30 PM BY ROBERT SPENCER

Yet the only story that went VIRAL was the first one

8)

petrus4

The problem with banning Islam, or taking any action against it whatsoever, is that it renders said non-Islamic actor who does so, as bad as Islamic extremists themselves.  There is a quote from the Old Testament, which sums up what in my saner moments, I consider the proper moral course to take, when contemplating Islam.  I have probably cited this before, but it is worth remembering.

And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;

I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.

And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the LORD.

And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?

Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?

That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?

And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.

And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the LORD, which am but dust and ashes:

Peradventure there shall lack five of the fifty righteous: wilt thou destroy all the city for lack of five? And he said, If I find there forty and five, I will not destroy it.

And he spake unto him yet again, and said, Peradventure there shall be forty found there. And he said, I will not do it for forty's sake.

And he said unto him, Oh let not the LORD be angry, and I will speak: Peradventure there shall thirty be found there. And he said, I will not do it, if I find thirty there.

And he said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the LORD: Peradventure there shall be twenty found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for twenty's sake.

And he said, Oh let not the LORD be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten's sake.

And the LORD went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.

        -- Genesis 18:20-33
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

zorgon

Quote from: petrus4 on December 09, 2014, 01:37:24 AM
And the LORD went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.

So this Abraham dude... sees three MEN walking up to him and recognizes one as being his Lord.  They have tea and crumpets and chat awhile and this Lord says he has to go see whats up in Salem (guess he didn't have all knowing all seeing eye powers at the time)

So fater battering about over righteous people  seems there ere none because we all know Sodom and Gomarah were NUKED. I gues that is what all that yellow desert glass they find is all about eh?  Fused city remnants


     

ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on December 09, 2014, 12:59:00 AM
Seems the story has gone VIRAL  Cudos for the Portuguese owned Angola
Angola is not owned by the Portuguese.

In fact, some companies from Angola have been buying some big Portuguese companies, so it's more like Portugal is owned by Angola. ;D

zorgon

Quote from: ArMaP on December 09, 2014, 02:02:55 AM
Angola is not owned by the Portuguese.

Well okay so you cut them loose in 1975   still....

petrus4

Did you recognise the point that I was trying to make, Zorgon?
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

zorgon

Quote from: petrus4 on December 09, 2014, 03:26:46 AM
Did you recognise the point that I was trying to make, Zorgon?

Yeah You want to NUKE THEM  because so far we have yet to find a rigtteous one. If there were any, they would stand up against their own atrocities. Since they do not,...

Send them an Xmas present


petrus4

Quote from: zorgon on December 09, 2014, 04:54:07 AM
Yeah You want to NUKE THEM  because so far we have yet to find a rigtteous one. If there were any, they would stand up against their own atrocities. Since they do not,...

Send them an Xmas present



Do you genuinely believe that a non-violent solution is possible, where Islam is concerned?
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

Sinny

Quote from: petrus4 on December 09, 2014, 05:49:14 AM
Do you genuinely believe that a non-violent solution is possible, where Islam is concerned?

"The solution to Islam"

What exactly is the problem? lmafo.
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

zorgon

Quote from: petrus4 on December 09, 2014, 05:49:14 AM
Do you genuinely believe that a non-violent solution is possible, where Islam is concerned?

No I have said nuking the entire region is likely the only solution MANY TIMES :P

Not saying we SHOULD do it but they have been at it for over 2000 years 

I don't see any improvement




zorgon


Sinny

Lol - okay, well obviously 'Islam' is an extremely broad term which includes a large global population - so when I ask 'what's the problem', I want to know if you mean Islam based on religious differences, racial differences, political differnces etc etc etc.

Or is the elephant in the room 'radical Islam'? Or is it all bad?

Should we 'nuke em all' ? If that's the case you'll have to nuke Britain too, we're full of 'em!

Hense, my confusion.



"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

petrus4

Quote from: Sinny on December 09, 2014, 11:40:24 PM
Or is the elephant in the room 'radical Islam'? Or is it all bad?

As a religion, Islam's main problem is its' perceived divine imperative, to subjugate the rest of the planet.  While it is true that not all Muslims follow said mandate on a practical basis, I know of no denomination of the religion (other than perhaps Sufism) that does not believe in it, at least theoretically.

As a religion, and again, this is a case where it is possible to speak generally, Islam does not recognise the right of an individual to choose whether or not to convert.  The meaning of the religion's name is, "submission." Apostasy is punishable by death.  Said rule is itself universal, although enforcement of it is not.



In other words, at least theoretically, Islam is really a form of spiritual rape; and in my mind, it is therefore no surprise that rape is the one crime which tends to spike whenever Islamic populations increase, within a given country.  As above, so below.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman