Sharia Law in the US - Never Happen?

[zorgon]

So let's nuke the Muslims, and then after that we'll become spacefaring and start playing a supposedly real life version of Warhammer 40,000. 

No I said nuke the ENTIRE Middle East Israel included

All your words are basicalyl blah blah blah (no offence ) when you look at the fact that the regions has given us nothing but war since Moses ran away from Pharoah

This is my point  They were doing this LONG before America was even an idea. America was concieved in Paris in 1749 , Philip LeMarchand, Benjamin Franklin and Voltaire.   LeMarchand, became known as the Professor (that is another story ) and Washington only got into it in 1775)

So all this Crusade and Jihad BS started hundreds of years before we even existed so its not our fault. We just got dragged in to the current mess (most LIKELY because of our Israeli connections)  There is no denying Israel is in Hollywood big time, our Doctors, our Lawyers, our Politicians and even our Diamond Merchants   I think New York and Los Angeles are Israel's biggest cities.. and don't get me started on the schmuck that owned the Towers

So naturally we are in the thick of it

This Judge...  Lebanese descent... has the right attitude  even if she works for FOX





I do not apologize for the way I feel... these animals have show far to many atrocities in the name of Allah that no human should tolerate no matter your religion.

Who created them? I don't know... The Mussad? The CIA?  Some rich bastards like the Rockefeelrs or the Rotchschilds?  I don't know  and I no longer care

Nuke the Lot of em and lets get on with it

[zorgon]

I never noticed this before  LOL

[zorgon]

[ArMaP]

Coexistance is possible in theory  but in practice when the one group far outnumbers the other group it will soon escalate with one group pushing their agenda on the other

Only if you ignore the case of Egypt, for example, where the Christian minority was protected from the extremists by the non-extremist Muslims.

Coexistence is possible, what we need is to get rid of the extremists (in all sides, religious, political, etc.).

[ArMaP]

So all this Crusade and Jihad BS started hundreds of years before we even existed so its not our fault.

Yes, it started many years before, but it also ended many years before, so why did it restart?

If you look at the wars since the last crusade ended you can see that they were mostly local wars against a specific enemy or against the colonising or invading forces, the current situation only started after WW2.

Who created them? I don't know... The Mussad? The CIA?  Some rich bastards like the Rockefeelrs or the Rotchschilds?  I don't know  and I no longer care

Nuke the Lot of em and lets get on with it

I care, as knowing who was/is responsible would make it possible to "nuke" only those, as nuking the puppets and leaving the puppet master will only make the puppet master choose a different puppet.

[Pimander]

ArMaP is right.  Just because this all started before we were born is not a reason to continue settling disputes by blowing each other up.  It is a primitive backward way to settle disputes.

The way the middle east was cut up when the Brits and company pulled out of is definitley part of the reason for the continuing squabbles.

The other reason the problem is so bad today is that the USA and also Iran/Russia and others fund extremists to fight a proxy war on their behalf in that region.  That is where ISIS/ISIL come from.  That is where Al Qaida come from.  that is where the Taliban come from.  That is where the weapons come from.  You can't fight a war without arms and funds.

[zorgon]

Coexistence is possible, what we need is to get rid of the extremists (in all sides, religious, political, etc.).

LOL I did say I wasn't REALLY serious about nuking the entire region... just FEEL that way

So okay HOW do we get rid of these extremists? Do we ask them nicely to step down? Do we round them up and put them in FEMA camps?  WHO decides which extremists are to be eradicated? Do we vote them out?

Well we have drones trying to get rid of extremists by selective targeting but those drones are run by extremists that we ...cough  cough...  "elected" by voting for one or the other extremist...


So give me a WORKABLE SOLUTION to remove these extremists that doesn't require nuking them all and we can talk

In the meantime  here is a temporary solution to Pimander's Pub problem

[zorgon]

We need to go back to Warfare like it was in Medieval times  where the rulers were on the front lines... Winner was decided by with leader won the day and they all went back to the pubs until the next one

King Richard got killed in the Crusades That stopped that for some time

But I think the root of all this evil is that mankind LOVES war... we see it in little league games... just go to one and watch the soccer moms

We see it in professional soccer matches  Dang riots over a silly ball. We see it in pro wrestling even though we know its rigged the audience screaming for blood

Its the Roman Colleseum on a world wide scale  We are the War Beast  Even in my Medieval Recreation, the Field of Battle is the prime focus and the org has 40,000 members world wide


As Captain James T. Kirk once said :

"We're human beings, with the blood of a million savage years on our hands. But we can stop it. We can admit that we're killers, but we won't kill today."

This is why we have times of relative peace... because sometimes we choose not to kill today... but then tomorrow someone pisses us off again

[zorgon]

And population is a huge factor...

It is easier to live at peace when there is more space between people.  If as it's claimed for example only 1% of Muslim are extremists, the 1% of a hundred thousand is easy to deal with, but there are currently,   according to a 2010 study and released January 2011, 1.57 billion adherents, making up over 23% of the world population.

So 1% of that is an awful lot of extremists

[ArMaP]

So give me a WORKABLE SOLUTION to remove these extremists that doesn't require nuking them all and we can talk

I think the best way of fighting extremism is knowledge.

When people see that everybody else is the same as themselves they have less reasons to hate them just based on what someone else said.

I know that's not a sure way of stopping extremism, but I'm sure it would help reduce the amount of people that see extremism as the only or best way to solve some problem. Sure, haters are going to hate, whatever other people do, but most of the extremist's support comes from people that follow them because they didn't find something that looked like a better way.

But I think the root of all this evil is that mankind LOVES war... we see it in little league games... just go to one and watch the soccer moms

Not exactly war, but something to go against, probably because with a target to which we can direct our energies we enter a kind of depression and end up vegetating instead of living. That's one thing that I noticed many years ago in people from the US, they are almost constantly in need of having a definite target, and most aren't capable of choosing a new target, they have that target supplied by someone else, so they usually just follow what other people do.

PS: some 30 years ago I noticed that I was always expecting the appearance of some adversary with which I could compare my abilities (and hope I would prove better than him). Never found one at that time, and when I understood what I was doing I changed my way of acting and stopped looking and instead just started thinking about how I could get better myself.

[Pimander]

For a start we pressurise our own governments to stop funding/arming extremist groups in an effort to play chess with territory thousands of miles away.

[petrus4]

In the meantime  here is a temporary solution to Pimander's Pub problem

While I do not agree with the enforced prohibition of anything, (partly because it is tyrannical, and partly because it simply does not work) alcohol is an insidious, toxic substance in my mind.  I rank it alongside methamphetamines, coke, and heroin as one of the most dangerous drugs in existence.  The damage it does both to the internal pH balance, and the organs, can be truly horrific.

The only three controlled substances that I am willing to consume, are cannabis, psilocybe cubensis, and lysergic acid diethylamide.  While LSD does present genuine psychological dangers, the comparitive physical harm or toxicity of all three of these is truthfully extremely low.  I consider it telling that while all three of these are tightly controlled, two of the most long term dangerous substances known, (alcohol and tobacco) while regulated, are legal. 

In the twelve months I've been here at the farm in Nimbin, I've seen people on virtually every drug I can think of, with the exceptions of ketamine, MDMA, and cocaine.  Alcohol is the only drug that has been consumed here, which led to a violent incident that necessitated calling the police.

Psychedelics are minimally harmful to the user, as mentioned.  Their real danger, and the cause of their illegality, is the degree of danger that they pose to ruling institutions, because they promote free association thought, and enable people to begin seeing through the lies that pathocratic societies are built on.  While we know about LSD's use as a mind control substance within MK-ULTRA, mushrooms and cannabis both encourage subversion and individuality, rather than conformity or submission.

[zorgon]

LOL I post a funny picture of an Inflatable Pub because Pimander misses his and Petrus goes on a rant about the evils of alcohol


Meanwhile in Washington DC in front of the White House

[petrus4]

Meanwhile in Washington DC in front of the White House

"Wa-shahad be anna muslimun.  You will be assimilated.  Resistance is futile."

Americans worrying about the Zombie Apocalypse have got things slightly wrong.  The zombies are more likely to be heard yelling, "ALLAHU ACKBAR!" rather than "BRAINS!"

Don't worry, everyone.  The pain will be over relatively quickly.

[ArMaP]

Americans worrying about the Zombie Apocalypse have got things slightly wrong.  The zombies are more likely to be heard yelling, "ALLAHU ACKBAR!" rather than "BRAINS!"

Nahh, the zombies will be watching TV, as they always do.