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Started by A51Watcher, February 17, 2015, 05:53:44 AM

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astr0144

Thanks for your reply to my questions A51.

I do recall some of the things that you mention that did not make sense to Bob..(such as the Frozen Candle)....

I am sure that or those things if Bob spoke about them and if one could have any understanding about what he was trying to describe , could have been extremely interesting to listen to..

I am sure that's where we all wish we had been able to understand our Science classes in more detail back in high school or College if we did study some Science related topics..

I assume then that there may have been over 500 people or maybe more attending if it was full and a large type arena that I think we would expect on a Major convention....



QuoteBob mentioned a couple of things that didn't make sense to him (which he has spoken of before)

- How the frozen candle still managed to emit photons so we could see it, in it's frozen time state the frozen photons should not be emitting light. 'Logically' it should be blacked out or something.

- How a control shack was able to communicate with the sports model while in test flight via a 2 way radio. 'Logically' radio waves should not be able to penetrate the gravity distortion field.

astr0144

A51,

Just to make you aware...

I called the organizers of the UFO Congress conference (Open Minds) to inquire about the DVDs from the event..They are $15 for each speaker..
or I think it was $250 for the whole event..

I also asked could they estimate how many people on average attended  each event.. and was told about 1000.

But they said they were able to add more seats on Saturday afternoon and that there was 1400 persons attended for the events with Bob and George Knapp.

I am not sure what the average attendance is for an Average UFO conference, but I think over 1000 people is quite a good turn out...


Quoteastro - No they didn't hang around to chat with anybody and stuck to their time slots.

No idea how many attended but the place was packed all day Saturday, the only day I attended.

Pimander


1967sander

#33
Quote from: Pimander on February 26, 2015, 11:42:50 AM
Did you get to talk to George Knapp?

I have been in touch with George and Bob since May 25 2014. I showed George Knapp my enhancements of the UFO and I asked him to contact Bob Lazar as he is the only person able to fully confirm that every one of my enhancements truly represents shape and colour of the UFO. Bob was not keen on answering my questions but as my material was so extraordinary detailed it shocked him to the bone. Bob Lazar confirmed shape and colours of the UFO and he told me that he was amazed to see the blue corona underneath the UFO. Although they, George Knapp, John Lear and Bob Lazar had eyewitnessed the flashing blue colour of the UFO, which is the byproduct of the gravitational amplifiers (the camerasystem was not able to show this faint blue/purple colour) NO ONE ever before had been able to retrieve the original colours of the UFO from the original video. I told Bob that I had been working in forensic image and video enhancement for over 25 years, have skills unknown to most and access to special equipment. Image enhancement is more than just a hobby and I always start to laugh when I have to read about the "theoretical knowledge" of some of the real experts. People really just seem to have no idea how things work in practice. Anyway, after I gained trust of both Bob and George I decided last year to make an end to the slander campaign that discredits Bob Lazar and his companions. I started to gather people around me who all are experts in their field regarding image and video enhancement, each with their special set of skills and now we act as the Image Analysis Team and share our material with Bob, George and of course the general public. What we showed you so far is just a teaser. The real material still has to be made public and I can tell youthis; you aint see nothing yet.

George  and Bon are updated by me and the team. Time will tell what happens next but what I do know is that some people are starting to have restless nights and feel very uncomfortable with this disclosure.
Today's reality is more strange than fiction and what is fiction today could be tomorrow's reality.

astr0144

#34
Hi Pimander,

Can I ask,

Reading Saunders comments,

Do you still think that what he has shown or explained to to us is still just a Man Made Craft ?

I also wonder  if 1967 Saunder would consider offering his updated thoughts on it ...if he has made a final conclusion after all he has been through.

Do you consider it has any possibility of being a manmade craft ?

Many thanks for posting Your Comments about your contact and experience with Bob & George Knapp and what his thoughts on your work.

That seems like a  (also for some interested  members here on PRC) UFO researchers dream come true..

1967sander

Quote from: astr0144 on February 28, 2015, 06:21:42 PM
Hi Pimander,

Can I ask,

Reading Saunders comments,

Do you still think that what he has shown or explained to to us is still just a Man Made Craft ?

I also wonder  if 1967 Saunder would consider offering his updated thoughts on it ...if he has made a final conclusion after all he has been through.

Do you consider it has any possibility of being a manmade craft ?

Many thanks for posting Your Comments about your contact and experience with Bob & George Knapp and what his thoughts on your work.

That seems like a  (also for some interested  members here on PRC) UFO researchers dream come true..

Hello,

One should not forget how old this original video footage is. Namely that it was made in 1989! Yes 26 years ago! After having looked inside the craft (the craft's hull is translucent / transparant) I can only conclude that this technology is not man made. Once you have seen the enhancements, which I will upload soon for everyone to see and to share, you will understand why I am saying this.
Today's reality is more strange than fiction and what is fiction today could be tomorrow's reality.

astr0144

#36
I appreciate your reply...

This gets even more interesting.

Curiosity awaits me as to what you indicated and what may await us to.

I am also a little unsure as to how you know the Hull was transparent / translucent ? Other than if Bob told you, unless you can make it out within your image analysis somehow. I would have thought that one would have had to be within the craft itself to have known that.

QuoteAfter having looked inside the craft (the craft's hull is translucent / transparant) I can only conclude that this technology is not man made.

Lastly what has the age to do with your statement other or unless you are purely meaning the quality of the video footage taken back then...and you refer purely to what your image analysis shows.

26 yrs difference in the age of a UFO if it was ET.. I doubt would make much difference to making such a conclusion..other than quality of the video footage itself.





1967 Saunder
QuoteHello,

One should not forget how old this original video footage is. Namely that it was made in 1989! Yes 26 years ago! After having looked inside the craft (the craft's hull is translucent / transparant) I can only conclude that this technology is not man made. Once you have seen the enhancements, which I will upload soon for everyone to see and to share, you will understand why I am saying this.

1967sander

Quote from: astr0144 on February 28, 2015, 10:07:10 PM
I appreciate your reply...

This gets even more interesting.

Curiosity awaits me as to what you indicated and what may await us to.

I am also a little unsure as to how you know the Hull was transparent / translucent ? Other than if Bob told you, unless you can make it out within your image analysis somehow. I would have thought that one would have had to be within the craft itself to have known that.

Lastly what has the age to do with your statement other or unless you are purely meaning the quality of the video footage taken back then...and you refer purely to what your image analysis shows.

26 yrs difference in the age of a UFO if it was ET.. I doubt would make much difference to making such a conclusion..other than quality of the video footage itself.





1967 Saunder

Once you have seen this and the material of the other UFO you will understand why.

Today's reality is more strange than fiction and what is fiction today could be tomorrow's reality.

A51Watcher

Quote from: Pimander on February 26, 2015, 11:42:50 AM
Did you get to talk to George Knapp?

Nah, they had the whole rock star can't get backstage thing going.




Pimander

#39
Quote from: astr0144 on February 28, 2015, 06:21:42 PM
Hi Pimander,

Can I ask,

Reading Saunders comments,

Do you still think that what he has shown or explained to to us is still just a Man Made Craft ?
It could be but we don't know is the honest answer.  It looks like a real video of something flying but we don't know who built it from a video.


Quote from: 1967sander on February 28, 2015, 09:28:01 PM
One should not forget how old this original video footage is. Namely that it was made in 1989! Yes 26 years ago! After having looked inside the craft (the craft's hull is translucent / transparant) I can only conclude that this technology is not man made. Once you have seen the enhancements, which I will upload soon for everyone to see and to share, you will understand why I am saying this.
Have you heard of Orbitally Rearranged Monatomic Elements?  There is a connection with the white substance of the alchemists and the knowledge is suppressed.

QuoteWhen gold and platinum-group metals are transformed into the monatomic state, a fine white powder is produced. This substance was used by pharaohs and kings of the ancient world. It was also part of the secret knowledge of mediaeval alchemy and the Knights Templar.

Research on this has been forging ahead, and some amazing properties of high-spin monatomic elements have now been scientifically confirmed. This has huge and potentially revolutionary implications.

Humanity now has within its reach a potential cure for cancer without drugs or surgery, an environment-friendly alternative to fossil fuels, a means to transform human consciousness, the possibility of low or zero-gravity flight, space travel by manipulation of space-time, and access to other dimensions (which scientists have now proved to be real).

In this interview conducted at Growing Needs Bookshop in Glastonbury, England, Laurence talked about some of the latest developments in this field. We began by discussing how news of its use as a cure for cancer has begun to spread to the mainstream environment.
http://www.graal.co.uk/interview_nexus_2003_11_06.php

If the craft are using this technology then it is ancient and human.

QuoteThere is now an article about this on my former co-author's website - but this was something I had told Philip Gardiner about years ago.

I was once in daily correspondence with physicists Hal Puthoff and Jack Sarfatti from 1999 - 2002.

Dr Hal Puthoff, Director for Advanced Studies in Austin is often quoted by Laurence Gardner to back his theories about this "strange" or "exotic substance". It is said that Puthoff analyzed this powder and concluded his studies.

Laurence Gardner continually quotes Puthoff, saying:

"Since gravity determines space-time, Puthoff concluded that the powder was "exotic matter" and was capable of bending space-time".
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/lostark.html




astr0144

Pimander,

Just when I thought that you may have a difference in opinion about the Bob Lazar  UFO Video, you surprised me yet again with your reply and suggestions.

I had not known about the White Gold and its properties or the mystical connections about it..

Certainly seems interesting...maybe even a possibility..and something that I think few of us would have been aware about.

It seems a bit of a Holy Grail type of connection..

How we seem to come across some other things that leaves us with more possibilities and questions.

Now its to see if there may be any proof that such a things actually may exist and do as the article suggests...Not sure how we may be able to research that though !, maybe just as hard as trying to determine if a UFO is manmade or ET !  :-\

Pimander

Quote from: astr0144 on March 03, 2015, 06:32:14 PM
Now its to see if there may be any proof that such a things actually may exist and do as the article suggests...Not sure how we may be able to research that though !
You can buy the stuff so it is possible. :)

Quote, maybe just as hard as trying to determine if a UFO is manmade or ET !  :-\
Well proving that is next to impossible.  It is however more possible than proving a negative like there not being ET.  ;D

starwarp2000

Quote from: Pimander on March 02, 2015, 10:49:25 AM
It could be but we don't know is the honest answer.  It looks like a real video of something flying but we don't know who built it from a video.

Have you heard of Orbitally Rearranged Monatomic Elements?  There is a connection with the white substance of the alchemists and the knowledge is suppressed.
http://www.graal.co.uk/interview_nexus_2003_11_06.php

If the craft are using this technology then it is ancient and human.
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/lostark.html

ORME's :)
Interesting that you bring them up.
One of their properties is Quantum jumping, whereby upon measuring the sample, it cannot be ascertained in which orbital the sample resonates. (Quantum Energy State).
To an untrained eye it looks like the sample is jumping all over the place in regards to energy state, but to someone in their know, it co-exists in all energy states.
How you ask can a piece of matter exist in different energy states?
Well, maybe it isn't quite matter! Think of it as the precursor of matter.
Aether? Maybe, but more like Aether made solidic, by resonance in a particular GEOMETRIC configuration!
Interesting stuff! The material of the future!
The transparency of the craft also rings bells! There is the possibility that there are field resonant causes, but the connection with ORMES is also likely.
ORMES can be made into a transparent metal, clear as glass, 100s of times stronger than steel, able to leap tall buildings......... :)
Reminds me of the vision of the news Jerusalem, and the transperant sea of gold!
Metallic, crystaline, transperant gold that is
Sit down before fact like a small child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abyss nature lead, or you will learn nothing. —T. H. Huxley

Pimander

Quote from: starwarp2000 on March 04, 2015, 09:45:54 PM
ORME's :)
Interesting that you bring them up.
Someone actually taking notice of what I say!  Fk me!  You'll be understanding the idea of being in all possible quantum states almost like beyond OBSERVED space time next.....

QuoteOne of their properties is Quantum jumping, whereby upon measuring the sample, it cannot be ascertained in which orbital the sample resonates. (Quantum Energy State).
To an untrained eye it looks like the sample is jumping all over the place in regards to energy state, but to someone in their know, it co-exists in all energy states.
:o ;D

Quote
How you ask can a piece of matter exist in different energy states?
Well, maybe it isn't quite matter! Think of it as the precursor of matter.
Aether? Maybe, but more like Aether made solidic, by resonance in a particular GEOMETRIC configuration!
There is lots of speculating to be had here.  This is where Science meets high Esoteric knowledge.  Very interesting area.

QuoteInteresting stuff! The material of the future!
They'll be trying to make UFOs using this sh1t next!

QuoteThe transparency of the craft also rings bells! There is the possibility that there are field resonant causes, but the connection with ORMES is also likely.
ORMES can be made into a transparent metal, clear as glass, 100s of times stronger than steel, able to leap tall buildings......... :)
Exactly!  Also able to have negative mass acording to reports.  An obvious UFO technology and probably a closely guarded....  Oh no did I mention it here. :P

Try telling these guys and they go quiet.  Not sure why.  :)


QuoteReminds me of the vision of the news Jerusalem, and the transperant sea of gold!
Metallic, crystaline, transperant gold that is
The though has crossed a few other minds I suspect.  Or is it only two of us?  8)

astr0144

#44
Well Pimander,

There was initially only you as far as I am aware that educated us on this thread anyway about this so far until Starwarp commented.

Have you described this before in other similar threads..I do not recall seeing you comment on it before and this has been discussed several times on and off about was Bob Lazar's craft ET or not !

Your posts on this thread is the first that I have come across on this topic before during my time on PRC..

Either that or I missed something or did not take note at the time...but usually anything to do with Bob Lazar's Saucer story I try to take note..

Definately interesting..

Was this discovered from the Ancients though or given to them from other means...? if this is what may be used in the Saucer crafts that we have been led to believe exist...

I am not sure we can be sure on that !

Question is is it responsible for a Saucer being able to make the incredible maneuvers and speeds that have been described...and do they really go into space and travel through the universe ?



QuoteTry telling these guys and they go quiet.  Not sure why.  :)