opinions needed..

[space otter]

ok so we knew about this ( first article) but in this morning's paper is a little blurp  (second article)
and I am wondering if there is a connection and if I should go get a metal detector cause kittanning is just up the road a bit....hummmmmmmmmm
no I didn't see it.. with the snow clouds the ceiling is low

dang I need to hook up with one of those mini drone guys.. roads are pretty much impassible till  spring

do you think I could find something?



edit to add.. no I don't think the meteor was part of that .. just that it may have caused things to move that were closer... like  sky billards   



crap.. I grabbed the wrong first article.. i'll be back...sigh


ok it's this asteroid ..not to backtrace and find the article I was reading..
sorry 'bout that

http://sservi.nasa.gov/articles/nasa-to-chronicle-close-earth-flyby-of-asteroid/

NASA to Chronicle Close Earth Flyby of Asteroid
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NASA Television will provide commentary starting at 2 p.m. EST (11 a.m. PST) on Friday, Feb. 15, during the close, but safe, flyby of a small near-Earth asteroid named 2012 DA14. NASA places a high priority on tracking asteroids and protecting our home planet from them. This flyby will provide a unique opportunity for researchers to study a near-Earth object up close.

The half-hour broadcast from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, Calif., will incorporate real-time animation to show the location of the asteroid in relation to Earth, along with live or near real-time views of the asteroid from observatories in Australia, weather permitting.

At the time of its closest approach to Earth at approximately 2:25 p.m. EST (11:25 a.m. PST/ 19:25 UTC), the asteroid will be about 17,150 miles (27,600 kilometers) above Earth's surface.

The commentary will be available via NASA TV and streamed live online at:




   skip this one...
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/close-call-star-whizzed-past-solar-system-at-distance-of-a-light-year/ar-BBhIjhT

Close call: star whizzed past solar system at distance of a light year
By the standards of outer space, it was the closest call yet recorded: a star that zoomed past our solar system 70,000 years ago at a distance of eight trillion kilometers, or five trillion miles.

An international team of astronomers said Tuesday the dim star probably passed through the solar system's distant cloud of comets, known as the Oort Cloud.

No other star is known to have ever approached our solar system this close --- five times closer than the current closest star, Proxima Centauri, said the team of researchers from the US, Europe and South America.

Their study was published in the journal Astrophysical Journal Letters.

Analysis of the trajectory of this recently discovered star -- known as a red dwarf and christened with the name Scholz's star after its discoverer -- suggests it passed roughly 0.8 light years from our solar system.

Astronomically speaking, that is close.

The star is now 20 light years away, said Eric Mamajek, from the University of Rochester in New York and lead author of the study.

Using spectrographs and large telescopes in South Africa and Chile, researchers were able to go back in time and reconstruct its trajectory by calculating its speed.

They were also able to determine that it is now heading away from our solar system.

Until now, the top candidate for the closest flyby of a star to the solar system was the so-called "rogue star" HIP 85605. It was forecast to come close to our solar system in 240,000 to 470,000 years from now.

But Mamajek and his colleagues also demonstrated that the original distance to HIP 85605 was probably underestimated by a factor of ten.



http://www.thestate.com/2015/02/18/3996122/fireball-meteor-going-45000-mph.html

Fireball! Meteor going 45,000 mph lights up Pennsylvania sky
The Associated PressFebruary 18, 2015 Updated 2 hours ago

2015-02-18T21:07:46Z
The_Associated_Press

KITTANNING, Pa. — A meteor moving at 45,000 mph lit up the sky over western Pennsylvania.

NASA's Meteoroid Environment Office says the space rock measuring two feet in diameter and weighing roughly 500 pounds entered Earth's atmosphere above the Pittsburgh suburbs around 4:50 a.m. Tuesday. It could be seen in Pennsylvania, New York and Ohio.

NASA says cameras detected the rock at an altitude of 60 miles above Beaver Falls, northwest of Pittsburgh. The agency says it flared brighter than a full moon as it descended to an altitude of 13 miles above Kittanning, northeast of Pittsburgh.

The agency says the meteor likely came from the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter.

NASA says meteorite fragments may be scattered on the ground east of Kittanning.


Read more here: http://www.thestate.com/2015/02/18/3996122/fireball-meteor-going-45000-mph.html#storylink=cpy

[zorgon]

Broke right now but I plan to buy a metal detector. Meteorite hunting is now allowed on BLM land with a small permit. I already have several pieces I found in Canada years ago and one big one on John's mine before it was demolished

Lot of money in meteorites

Also gold on old mine sites in the dumps. In the old days mining was done by hand so a lot of specimen gold ended up in the mine dumps. A modern detector can find those bits.

I really need to get out into the field again but it will cost me about $4,500.00 to get a detector, small ATV and a trailer

Sigh.....

[space otter]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/18/meteor-pittsburgh-video_n_6705858.html?utm_hp_ref=science


Brilliant Fireball Lights Up The Night Sky In Four States



The Huffington Post    |  By  Jacqueline Howard   

Posted:  02/18/2015 3:15 pm EST    Updated:  02/18/2015 3:59 pm EST





Skywatchers in Pittsburgh and surrounding areas were treated to quite a show on Tuesday when a brilliant fireball lit up the early-morning sky.

The fireball was a 500-pound meteor that entered Earth's atmosphere over western Pennsylvania, NASA said. The space rock was captured by three meteor cameras operated by the space agency and was observed by at least 30 people in Pennsylvania as well as in parts of Ohio, Michigan, and New York, according to the American Meteor Society.

"It appeared to pass directly over my house," Dave Woodcox, a resident of Greensburg, Pa., commented on the society's website on Tuesday. "It was traveling slightly east of due north. It was very bright with a tail about one-fourth of the sky from the south to the north. The object was orange/yellow in hue, but the tail was white and was the brightest part."

The society posted a video (above) of the fireball on YouTube on Feb. 17.





A heat map showing where witnesses reported seeing the fireball on Tuesday.

Three people in Pittsburgh said they heard a booming sound after seeing the fireball, according to the society.

The fireball flared brighter than the full moon and moved almost due east at a speed of 45,000 miles per hour, NASA said. The space agency also noted that, according to the space rock's orbit, it likely traveled to Earth from the main asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter.








Published on Feb 18, 2015


A huge fireball was captured by NASA All-Sky camera at the Allegheny Observatory near Pittsburgh in the early morning hours of February 17th, 2015. NASA's Meteoroid Environment Office created an animation from the perspective of the ~2 foot space rock on its final orbit. Full Story: http://goo.gl/YylnwY

[rdunk]

Broke right now but I plan to buy a metal detector. Meteorite hunting is now allowed on BLM land with a small permit. I already have several pieces I found in Canada years ago and one big one on John's mine before it was demolished

Lot of money in meteorites

Also gold on old mine sites in the dumps. In the old days mining was done by hand so a lot of specimen gold ended up in the mine dumps. A modern detector can find those bits.

I really need to get out into the field again but it will cost me about $4,500.00 to get a detector, small ATV and a trailer

Sigh.....

Z, first invest in the metal detector! That is because you really need to learn how to effectively use it, before you take out into the boondocks. It has been a long time since I did much in using a detector, but for sure, one gets better with it the more one uses it. Detectors are far more capable now, and the batteries are much smaller and way more lighter in weight.

For several years in metal detecting I kept a record of every coin I found, and when I finally quit recording them I was up to about 7000 coins, so I have used one just a bit. If you like that kind of thing, you can have a lot of fun - and you do have a plan for finding some valuable stuff!! !!

Good places for general hunting - old parks, old carnival/fair grounds, stadiums having drain-thru spaces in the stand seats and walkways, old home places, and any other place where people gather and lose coins. Of course, most of these places are not going to make you rich, but you will learn how to use the detector!!

[space otter]

well I don't feel AS bad  since no body saw it.. but darn that would have been a great sight

http://triblive.com/news/armstrong/7802401-74/meteor-sky-kittanning#axzz3SCmBfsiC

Meteor (hardly anyone saw) lights up Pennsylvania early morning sky
       
By Julie E. Martin    
Wednesday, Feb. 18, 2015, 4:51 p.m.
Updated 7 hours ago

Plenty have heard about a fireball that streaked through the sky over Kittanning Tuesday, but few saw it for themselves.

"I wish I could have seen it. That's a pretty rare event," said Denny Hill of Gilpin, president of the Kiski Astronomer's Group. "Those are the things we kind of die for."

NASA's Meteoroid Environment Office says the space rock measuring 2 feet in diameter and weighing roughly 500 pounds entered Earth's atmosphere above the Pittsburgh suburbs about 4:50 a.m. The meteor shot through the sky at 45,000 mph, lit up the sky over Western Pennsylvania and descended to an altitude of 13 miles above Kittanning.

The meteor likely came from the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, according to NASA. It was visible in Pennsylvania, New York and Ohio. Cameras detected the rock at an altitude of 60 miles above Beaver Falls, according to the agency.

"You don't get to see those too often," Hill said of the fireball. "We have meteor showers throughout the year and we go 'Ooh, ah.' But to see something like this, it would have been blinding."

The time of day and cold likely kept more from seeing it. Terry Trees, vice president of the Amateur Astronomers of Pittsburgh, said his organization has received no reports of a sighting.

"If this had been July, several of our members would have probably seen it. But because it was so stinking cold, consequently, nobody saw it," he said.

NASA says meteorite fragments may be scattered on the ground east of Kittanning. There is a chance the black, slightly smooth rocks could be found, Trees said. But Ken Coles of the Geoscience Department at Indiana University of Pennsylvania — also among those who didn't see the fireball — doubts it.

"It is quite possible some material survived all the way to the ground as small fragments, but it would be a matter of luck — or a very determined search — to find any," Coles said in an email. "They would have buried themselves in the snow and would be difficult to distinguish from plain old rocks."






Julie E. Martin is a staff writer for Trib Total Media. She can be reached at 724-543-1303, ext. 1315, or jmartin@tribweb.com. The Associated Press contributed to this report.


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[Somamech]

Rdunk I make the proto plasctic piece's for Minelab... Geez their Metal detector's are off the charts now. 

I grew up in the Golden Triangle here in Oz which was once the richest Gold field here in Oz and still have family in the area and as you would know from my post's my dad is still interested in them field's even though these day's he cannot do it as much. 

Dad is still connected with those local's who get out with the new detector's.  He was telling me a story last time I saw him how a block of land was dug for a housing development in the golden triangle and folke's with the new detectors went in and made some good coin. 

Detecting or gem hunting seem's to be a formula of 6 months's on 6 month's off.  Not a bad lifestyle if you maximise every opportunity even down to social media. 

[rdunk]

Well Soma, I guess with my reply to Z, I took this OP off track a little bit...................but your comments are very interesting. I did look online at the Minelab detectors, and they are pretty neat. I have an old top-of-the-line Garrett, and it does still work. However, I found most of my stuff with an even older White's detector that had huge batteries. But, I like your dad, now am at the age where doing anything down on the ground is not going to happen, if not an emergency! I have been out of doing any real detecting for many years. But it was one of my most enjoyable hobbies, and I have had many "hobbies" in my lifetime - hunting, bass fishing, golf, field target archery, etc (along with raising a family of 5 kids)!

[petrus4]

My opinion on this is that it is probably fear/doom porn, to be honest.  Western governments want to keep their populations in a state of continual fear, and worry or panic about asteroid impacts is just one more means of accomplishing that end.  It's another fear-generating topic, in other words.

We've probably had the technology now to track asteroids to some extent for probably 50 years, and yet asteroids/meteorites have only really been major news for the last 20.  I'm not going to believe that if they've ever been a risk at all, they haven't been one for longer than two decades.

So again; fear porn, and I'm not really interested.

[space otter]

gee pets r us...there doesn't seem to be much you are interested in besides pot
so why even type..
never mind
I though you were so disgusted with this place you started your own forum
did you get tired of talking to yourself
again never mind
all rhetorical

see how that works.. didn't really want to exchange ideas with ya.. just wanted to poke at ya to let you know I am here

so
believe me when I tell you that we do know you are here...and I hope your life improves to where
you find some kind of happy or at least contentment
meanwhile
heres a big hug for you 

[zorgon]

Well Soma, I guess with my reply to Z, I took this OP off track a little bit...................

Not really no because Otter said in the OP and if I should go get a metal detector cause kittanning is just up the road a bit....hummmmmmmmmm

So metal detector talk is perfectly on topic  And thanks for the tips. I had a detector years ago  a simple one not very discriminating but it found stuff.  Since I look for anything  it was okay  Like if I am at an old mine, pieces of iron often lead to old tools etc  I have a big collection of old mine parts from Canada and the desert now

Most of the meteorites I found I found by eye  on the surface, and I know at a glance from just walking in a field.  Find a lot of agates that way out here too.  Rocks that are heavy tend to move to the surface in the desert   You can clear a road of rocks and next year new ones will have come up

My legs are at the point that a lot of walking is out so I would need an ATV to get into the old mines but I do want to dig some mammoth bones before all the sites are under protection Harry Reid just closed some more sites to collection while the federal government is starting to recognize rock and mineral collecting as a recreational activity and even allowing digging at popular site (only by hand tools)

I did find one silver coin in Utah  a Spanish silver piece King Philip 1500's  It was just along a roadway into an old gold mining area  Really odd

[zorgon]

LOL The Otter was nice

My opinion on this is that it is probably fear/doom porn, to be honest.  Western governments want to keep their populations in a state of continual fear, and worry or panic about asteroid impacts is just one more means of accomplishing that end.  It's another fear-generating topic, in other words.

To deny the existence of meteorite falls that produce big fireballs is well STUPID   All you have to do is go out during any of the known meteor showers and you are likely to see one. Thing is they usually are in the early hours when most are asleep

This one was recorded by many people in many states and it hit a car  The guy gave it to the Smithsonia  LOL I would have sold it to pay for the damage

We've probably had the technology now to track asteroids to some extent for probably 50 years, and yet asteroids/meteorites have only really been major news for the last 20.  I'm not going to believe that if they've ever been a risk at all, they haven't been one for longer than two decades.

I have recorded over 200 meteorite/ asteroid craters on Earth on the website.  And no we do not track them all. The one in Russia caught NASA by surprise and was bigger than they estimated. There are literally billions of rocks out there zipping around in all directions coming from anywhere in the sky. There is no way to track them all.  The one that missed us a few years ago and hit Mars was only spotted AFTER it passed Earth

What do you think would happen if this one hit downtown New York instead of the Arizona desert?
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And I suppose you will claim that the one in Russia is another False Flag event to create Fear Porn right?

So again; fear porn, and I'm not really interested.

Then quite frankly... STAY OUT of threads that don't really interest you. because we are not really interested in your fear porn tirades

[ArMaP]

What do you think would happen if this one hit downtown New York instead of the Arizona desert?
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Muslims? 

Sorry, I couldn't resist.