Another airliner down, pilot locked out of cockpit

[starwarp2000]

What that guy says is that "all evidence point to", he does say it was.

And I don't think I will accepted some unknown guy's theories as truth.

He probably doesn't accept your theories either!

[starwarp2000]

It is impressive how, after 9/11, much of the world's population, is conditioned to think of terrorism when a plane crashes.

We are all Pavlov's dogs now.

Isn't it great how that 'fear' has caused us to cringe from reality! We call the Ford Hood attack "Workplace related violence", even as the perpetrator screamed 'aluha ackbar', and was a 'soldier of Allah'! We, like Obama, will not call ISIS Islamic, even though everything they do is from the Koran!
It is time to call it what it is, Terrorism!
Time to remove our heads from the sand and face reality!
If he was a convert to Islam, then it was done in the name of Allah, and it is 'Terrorism'!
Heaven forbid if somebody states the truth!

[The Seeker]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/03/27/more-questions-than-answers-after-report-that-germanwings-pilot-locked-out/

The autopilot on the doomed Germanwings plane that crashed into the Alps was abruptly switched to descend to 100 feet, according to a new report Thursday.

FlightRadar24, an online tracking service that uses satellite data, found evidence the autopilot was adjusted to its lowest setting before the plane started its steady fall from the sky, Reuters reported.

French prosecutors said Andreas Lubitz, the 28-year-old who officials say locked the pilot out of the Germanwings cockpit and then calmly slammed the plane into a mountainside at 430 miles per hour. He reportedly battled burnout and depression in 2009, while training to realize his dream of flying.

FlightRadar said its review of data showed the autopilot was manually changed from 38,000 feet to 100 feet and 9 seconds later the aircraft started to descend, probably with the "open descent" autopilot setting, the firm's CEO Fredrik Lindahl said. The plane slammed into a mountain at 6,000 feet, killing 150 people.

Lindahl said FlightRadar24 shared its findings with French crash investigators.

Video available at the link....

Mav, isn't it ironic that FlightRadar could monitor this flight from sat data, but not MH370?

or am I missing something?


seeker

[RUSSO]

Isn't it great how that 'fear' has caused us to cringe from reality!

Thats the point.

It is time to call it what it is, Terrorism!

Based on what?

Time to remove our heads from the sand and face reality!

Thats the point again.

If he was a convert to Islam, then it was done in the name of Allah, and it is 'Terrorism'!

Thats a very simplistic and poor view about how a complex human being works. Not to mention the fact that it is in a big conditional sentence and it smells like:



Ironically and interestingly, this time there is no indications of a government engaged in the propaganda. Then this ministry should be of a different nature.

Heaven forbid if somebody states the truth!

What truth?

The only FACT i know is that the guy had psychological problems.

Co-pilot in jet crash said to have had depression.

German authorities said they have found documents that show Germanwings co-pilot Andreas Lubitz, who allegedly crashed his aircraft into the French Alps, was receiving medical treatment. (Reuters)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/report-co-pilot-on-doomed-flight-had-psychological-treatments-in-past/2015/03/27/b1818c48-d40b-11e4-8b1e-274d670aa9c9_story.html

[spacemaverick]

It did monitor 370 but had disappeared when transponder was turned off but later was found someone had either manipulated the figures or there was a glitch.  I will have to find that for you.

http://www.flightradar24.com/F2TH/5dc086e

This is something I just pulled off on my state.  You have to click on a plane to get the information to come up on the left side of the screen.

Be right back in a few minutes and I will see if I can find the 370 flight track...DAHBOO7 on you tube brought that up if I am not mistaken.

[spacemaverick]

Here you go seeker.....

[spacemaverick]

For Seeker, this is a problem with Flight tracker...this is for MH 370....do we believe Flight Tracker?

[Amaterasu]

Ok this is just weird.  Coincidence??

An Oscar nominated film to be released in the UK today showing member of aircrew locking himself in cockpit to crash a plane and kill everyone on board


http://www.thebigwobble.org/2015/03/an-oscar-nominated-film-to-be-released.html


Film fans raise chilling similarity between Wild Tales and Alps disaster First scenes of movie show madman crashing jet to murder his enemies Acclaimed Argentinian film released in UK today and is out in America Controversial movie was released in Germany and Spain last autumn An Oscar-nominated film will still be released in the UK today despite its disturbing similarities to the Alps air disaster. Argentinian film Wild Tales features a mass killer who locks himself in the cockpit of a passenger jet and crashes it in to the ground to murder everyone on board. In terrifying scenes the fictional passengers panic and one tries to smash his way through a door to get to the controls in chillingly similar circumstances to the ill-fated Germanwings Airbus A320 flight. The fictional killer invites his enemies on to the flight, including a lover who jilted him and a colleague who was hard on him at work, so he can kill them. Despite protests the highly-acclaimed movie will be shown in British cinemas from today, however, it was released in Spain and Germany last year although it is not known if Andreas Lubitz had seen it.

Predictive programming, perhaps?

[spacemaverick]

It is strangely weird to say the least Amaterasu.  I also wonder if there is a common thread among these crashes...don't know...just a strange feeling.

[burntheships]

When the pilot Andreas Lubitz plunged the plane to 100ft
he made the mental decision to terrorize and deliberately kill
150 people. No doubt he had thought this over, that would
make this premediated mass murder.

It was an act of terrorism regardless of any political correct
label not applied. If this is not terrorism, nothing is.

imo of course

[spacemaverick]

BTS, you are correct.  Not only did he terrorize the people on that aircraft...I am sure it will have a profound affect on the traveling public for awhile.  I remember how I felt getting on board an airliner after 9/11 and the USS Cole incident but I did it anyway.  I had to face that fear to conquer it.  No matter if it is Muslim related or not, it terrorized people.

[burntheships]

SM, there will be a profound effect left on many...as you have said
travellers and also pilots, those who work in air travel etc.

I understand that "terrorism" has been propagandized...yet at some
point then that can be used by the media in reverse to deny what
is actually truth.

Also as Seeker said, odd the discrepencies ...

Something bad afoot.

[RUSSO]

And to further illustrate the case:

Airbus A320 crash a 'criminal, crazy, suicidal' act, says French PM

THE former girlfriend of German co-pilot Andreas Lubitz has broken her silence about the tormented man who killed 149 people and himself in the Germanwings plane crash on Tuesday.
The woman, who remains anonymous, told the German newspaper Bild that Lubitz would wake from nightmares screaming "We're going down".

"When I heard about the crash, there was just a tape playing in my head of what he said, 'One day I will do something that will change the system and everyone will then know my name and remember me'," she said.

"I did not know what he meant by that at the time, but now it's clear."

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/airbus-a320-crash-a-criminal-crazy-suicidal-act-says-french-pm/story-fnizu68q-1227282147886

[burntheships]

I think this generalization of the word "terrorist" serves a very specific objective.

I would agree with you on that.

Not to mention this causes a growing confusion in the population minds, which in my view, is intrinsically related to why they choose and use it in the first place to connote attacks to a government generating fear in the population.

Yes, again here I would agree.

You may say, but this event made more people fear to flight comercial flights. To this I say to you, only if you believe that this was terrorism. Remember that there is crazy people driving busses and cars too.

Here is where the meaning of "terroism" becomes politicized, yet at the
same time if a government minimizes such a horrific act as this, it really
makes me wonder what they are hiding.

It is very early on in the investigation, much more will come about
as time goes on. As with MH 370, we will likely see many cover the
truth for many different reasons.

Yet in this instance, we know the act of mass murder was deliberate.

[RUSSO]

Here is where the meaning of "terroism" becomes politicized, yet at the
same time if a government minimizes such a horrific act as this, it really
makes me wonder what they are hiding.

What you mean by minimized? The guy will be ever known as a mass murder. He is tainted, his family is tainted forever.

We need to be more careful or else we will end seeing people calling his ex girlfriend a terrorist accusing her to be the cause of this madness.

It is very early on in the investigation, much more will come about
as time goes on. As with MH 370, we will likely see many cover the
truth for many different reasons.

Check my last post above yours.

Yet in this instance, we know the act of mass murder was deliberate.

Yes... but it does not make him a "terrorist" in the political sense we are used to understand it.