Another airliner down, pilot locked out of cockpit

[petrus4]

Ok this is just weird.  Coincidence??

An Oscar nominated film to be released in the UK today showing member of aircrew locking himself in cockpit to crash a plane and kill everyone on board

I was already thinking, "Manchurian candidate," in response to this, and the above more or less confirms it, as far as I'm concerned.  The article linked earlier about the pilot's Islamic conversion, also called this, "Germany's 9/11."

The whole thing stinks to high heaven.  At this point, I think everyone here needs to become familiar with the Monarch Mind Control Program.  It utilises extreme trauma to induce Multiple Personality Disorder, which can then be used as a means of programming/controlling victims to carry out assassination and other missions.

I offer a warning that this is raw and potentially troubling material; but once you know about it, virtually none of these sorts of incidents will seem mysterious.

[08rubicon]

   Petrus;
    I have thought for many years, that mind control was being used  to
  implement many destructive events, to control public opinion.The timing
  of shootings and other acts of violence, could not just be accidental.
   rubicon

[hoss58]

I wonder if anyone has looked into the background of the passengers?  Just a thought.  Or am I just stirring the conspiracy plot. 

That is always the  first question I ask myself :   ""who was on the plane? , train , ocean liner etc..."

[spacemaverick]

That is always the  first question I ask myself :   ""who was on the plane? , train , ocean liner etc..."

Earlier in the thread I indicated their was a Booz Hamilton contractor for the NSA on board along with her daughter...

[spacemaverick]

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/flight-9525-s-second-black-box-confirms-view-on-cause-of-crash-1.2164478

Flight 9525's second black box confirms view on cause of crash
Germanwings co-pilot Andreas Lubitz accelerated for maximum impact on descent

The second "black box" of Germanwings flight 9525 has confirmed not only that co-pilot Andreas Lubitz deliberately crashed the Airbus 320 on March 24th, but that he increased the speed as the plane descended to achieve maximum destruction on impact.
"The initial readout [of the flight data recorder] shows that the pilot present in the cockpit used the autopilot to put the aircraft into a descent towards an altitude of 100 feet, then, on several occasions during the descent, the pilot modified the autopilot setting to increase the speed of the descent," the French investigation and analysis bureau BEA said in a statement.
The flight data recorder was discovered in a ravine on the crash site on Thursday by Alice Coldefy, the only woman from the mountain gendarmerie unit based at Chamonix. Coldefy was digging by hand in an area that had already been searched.

"It was in a pile of clothes," she said. "We were moving debris down the slope when I discovered a box the colour of the black gravel in the zone . . . It's a huge relief for everyone working in the zone."
The surface of the recorder was charred and misshapen, but it nonetheless delivered its secrets.

"With the information we received today," Mr Serrat said, "it's 99.9 per cent. We know this was someone who not only managed his suicide in a horrible way, but that it was premeditated and prepared in advance. The most frightening thing is [Lubitz's] calm, to the very end."
The flight's captain had left the aircraft on automatic pilot when he left to go to the toilet.
"Lubitz turns a small button to 100 feet, that is to say well below the ground altitude of approximately 1,500 metres," Mr Serrat said. "The plane starts going down at a rate of 1,000 metres a minute. He's controlling the speed, because . . . as it descends, a plane tends to slow down. Not only is [Lubitz] bringing the plane down, but he takes the cold, deliberate decision to accelerate the speed to the maximum before impact."

More at the link.......

Now I guess we need to look more at the background of the co-pilot with a fine tooth comb....

[petrus4]

The most frightening thing is [Lubitz's] calm, to the very end."

I'm reminded of the account of how they ensured obedience in the original hashisheen, or assassins.  A monarch would drug the people he wanted to use as assassins; and the assassins would wake up in a closed, walled garden which contained the proverbial 72 virgins, and various other forms of luxury.  After being allowed to spend a few hours in this sumptuous environment, the assassins would be drugged again, and told when they awoke that they had essentially had a Near-Death Experience; that they had been to heaven.  They were then told that if they willingly carried out a suicidal assassination mission, then they would return to the walled garden on death.

The interesting thing is that said walled garden actually exists, within astral space.  Back in 2005, when I was initially learning to astrally project, that was one of the environments I visited, and on recounting it in the projection forum I was a member of at the time, I was told that my account was very similar to that written by Emmanuel Swedenborg, more than 200 years previously.  As one of the great religions, Islam has its' own astral complex, or set of heaven and hell constructs, just as the other religions do.

So even though the intention was deceptive, it is entirely possible that that pilot will genuinely get his virgins after death, or so it will at least appear to him; although such an astral construct is not a place where I would want to spend my Afterlife.  A lavishly appointed, sensual prison is still a prison; and that is exactly what that construct is.

It is not a reward; not really.  The astral Heavens and Hells are traps; as Patanjali wrote, there is ultimately only a single eternal reward, and that is freedom.  The soul ideally achieves Maha Samadhi, transcends all duality, and merges with the unknowable Divine itself.  In comparison with that, this false Islamic heaven with the virgins is nothing more than a juvenile fantasy; it is the equivalent of a pornographic peep show.

Sex is no less a trap and an illusion than any other; in fact, it is a particularly sticky and insidious trap, precisely because in the moment it can be so enjoyable.  Yet in the end, the outcome can never be anything other than pain; lovers leave, partners age and die, beauty fades, and disease and children come.

Joy, real love, and the serenity which leads to freedom are real; ultimately, nothing else is.

[Dyna]

There are dozens of types of mind control already developed. Some are touted as being created for other medical purposes but we all know if it is a product military can use it will be studied for their use.

Example:

Two teams of scientists have developed new ways of stimulating neurons with nanoparticles, allowing them to activate brain cells remotely using light or magnetic fields.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/neurophilosophy/2015/mar/24/remote-control-brain-activity-nanoparticles

[spacemaverick]

So are you all saying that the co-pilot was or may have been under some sort of mind control?  Just curious....  And who might have been controlling their mind?  It very well could be a possibility or it may be what it appears to be...a very depressive episode.

[thorfourwinds]

It just gets stranger...I cannot verify this video...



Breaking co-pilot Andreas Lubitz,was not onboard the plane he was found dead in the trunk of his car

Published on Mar 30, 2015
source ;Les vidéos des caméras de surveillance de l'aéroport de Barcelone n'ont jamais été diffusées, ainsi, cette dernière info concernant le copilote Andreas Lubitz prend une nouvelle dimension: Etait-il simplement dans l'avion puisque selon plusieurs médias, dont CBS news2, il aurait été retrouvé mort dans le coffre de sa voiture à l'aéroport de Barcelone le jour du crash de l'Airbus 320 de la Germanwings ?

La question maintenant, qui a pris sa place aux commandes ?

[thorfourwinds]

Published on Mar 27, 2015
The co-pilot that deliberately crashed a Germanwings airliner into the French Alps on Tuesday killing all 150 people on board had suffered from depression forcing him to take a break from his training in 2009, it has been revealed.

[Dyna]

So are you all saying that the copilot was or may have been under some sort of mind control?  Just curious....  And who might have been controlling their mind?  It very well could be a possibility or it may be what it appears to be...a very depressive episode.

Yes it could well be just what they are saying but I simply feel wrong about it.

They at first said his Dr. told them he could not say the nature of his Dr visit but that "it was not for mental health reasons". They were very quick to come up with the copilot having mental illness all based at that time on an episode of depression many years ago, clearly he overcame that depression and finished his training. Depression does not turn you into a mass killer.

They made a big thing of the sick note from the Dr. but the workers at my husbands business get them whenever they feel ill and want an out from work...flu whatever, you can use it or decide to go to work and toss it. They did not say it was about mental illness and the Dr had already said it was not.

It is best for the airline to be able to blame this one person and quickly. I know that people who run and do marathons are usually very into life, they release the wonderful brain chemicals which keep you balance by running.

Being depressed in any way is  far from being a mass murderer. I went through an extreme time many years ago and attempted suicide. It is a very difficult thing to do and I can't see how you could appear totally normal to a coworker who knows you (on his previous days flight).

I don't like how an  appears and tells of weird conversations and dreams. I don't see being a suicide him not putting the plane in a fast steep dive, because if you don't do it fast you will change your mind.

I find it strange they say his laptop he searched suicide...why surely he knew he could die in an airplane crash would this come up in a search? He supposedly  searched airliner cockpit doors why? He worked and was trained on an airliner, surely he knew how the door works?

But maybe he was just a nut.

[spacemaverick]

It just gets stranger...I cannot verify this video...



Breaking co-pilot Andreas Lubitz,was not onboard the plane he was found dead in the trunk of his car

Published on Mar 30, 2015
source ;Les vidéos des caméras de surveillance de l'aéroport de Barcelone n'ont jamais été diffusées, ainsi, cette dernière info concernant le copilote Andreas Lubitz prend une nouvelle dimension: Etait-il simplement dans l'avion puisque selon plusieurs médias, dont CBS news2, il aurait été retrouvé mort dans le coffre de sa voiture à l'aéroport de Barcelone le jour du crash de l'Airbus 320 de la Germanwings ?

La question maintenant, qui a pris sa place aux commandes ?

I have a hard time believing this one.  Just like the video inside the cabin.  I would say to the person who published this...show me the evidence.

[spacemaverick]

Dyna....perhaps un-diagnosed bi-polar disorder and he went into a depressive state.  It's really hard to tell unless his treatments come out in the open but everything is a possibility.  Most all of this for the most part is circumstantial.  We know how circumstantial evidence is because people can be convicted with it and then years later be exonerated with real evidence.  We see a lot of that now happening here in the states.  Then you have the company trying to hide stuff and possibly the authorities.  MH-370, MH-17 and now this oone have a lot of unanswered questions.

[spacemaverick]

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-pilot-depression-20150405-story.html#page=1

Aggression, not just depression, led copilot to crash plane, experts say

Mental health experts say that it was aggression — not just depression — that would have driven 27-year-old Andreas Lubitz to deliberately crash a Germanwings airliner into a mountainside, the copilot breathing evenly as passengers screamed and the plane's frantic captain pounded helplessly on the cockpit door.

Unless investigators recognize the toxic role of aggression and hostility in some patients' depression, they say, such troubled individuals will continue to elude detection — to the public's peril.

More at the above link.....

I can believe the story in this link.  If this co-pilot had either undiagnosed or untreated bi-polar disorder,  he would have manic or depressive episodes.  If this is true then he could have just dove it into the ground during a manic episode.  I am not an expert but in my years in alw enforcement I have seen people off their meds...some were not diagnosed and some just plain not treated...and it was mis-underrstood at the time.  Later on we were given instructions and classes by those with the dis-orders and experts on how to recognize and handle people with the various mental health dis-orders.  This was a great help but only a few of us received this training.  The area of training is sorely under funded in most sectors in the business world.  This class was known as Crisis Intervention Training and was very good.

This article was really very good and more enlightening!

[Amaterasu]