US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

[Dyna]

Israel is such a tiny country, but Israel is a focus point of much of the world's news - I wonder why - well I know why, but just making the point for all!

Because they were pushed like a hornets nest into the mist of Middle East and handed everything on a platter without the need to obey any of the rules expected of others?

[zorgon]

Anyone else seen this? Thoughts?

Oh yeah Gaddaffi is such a great source of truth

I hear the Mossad did 9/11  That revelation got Mike Singh banned from ATS

We all knew Israel was a nuclear power... and runs the USA

Hollywood is run by Jews too  so is the diamond industry

Maybe it's time to let China take over

[Sinny]

Sinny said, "Hahaha, [snort!].
Are you one of those Zionist supporting Christians then?

Sinny, just for the record, AGAIN, I have made "my being a Christian" very clear here, over and over again. And yes, I do very much support Israel and the Jewish people, as they are very much a part of the foundation for what we Christians believe to be the TRUTH!

That's not entirely correct, not all Christians are pro - Zionist.

And, even though I am concerned about some of the things that continue to be "world news" about Israel, I do also know that so much of this stuff must happen to get to the likely soon end of it all, of the which Israel has the leading role, and will be/is the focal point of the END  ----

I've always thought that we could do with LESS people bringing about this prophecy..
but I suppose it's self-fulfilling. 

And isn't it a bit interesting to even you, that Israel "VERY OBVIOUSLY" IS SEEN BY MOST OF THE WORLD TO BE IN THAT "ROLE" RIGHT NOW, even though the "World" doesn't recognize why??

Only because the power of the FEW is bringing it into fruition.

Israel is such a tiny country,

I call it a military outpost.

ALL IS GOOD, as I am "ready"!

Well, at least you are.

Oh, and Rdunk, who are the enemies that want to bring down Israel the UK and USA?

[rdunk]

Because they were pushed like a hornets nest into the mist of Middle East and handed everything on a platter without the need to obey any of the rules expected of others?

I think "handed everything on a platter" doesn't coincide with the facts of how what is now Israel has had to decisively fight to get what they have, more than once. Of course, they have had supernatural help, as the documentary "Against All Odds" does portray pretty well!

[Sinny]

When you say that 'Israel has had to'...

Who are the actual *people* that you are talking about?
You know those people, who do these actions... Who usually lurk in the back gound... Who are they?

[rdunk]

Sinny said, "That's not entirely correct, not all Christians are pro - Zionist".

That is funny - I have never used the word "zionist"! But absolutely I am PRO-ISRAEL. And I personally do not know any Christian that does not think likewise.


And "who are our enemies"? It is all of those that wish to bring us down/destroy us, including but not limited to,  North Korea, Iran, Russia, muslim radicals in general, etc etc etc..............................etc, and probably China!

[ArMaP]

And I personally do not know any Christian that does not think likewise.

You should come to Portugal, we have many people that are not pro-Israel and some that are against Israel as it is now.

And "who are our enemies"? It is all of those that wish to bring us down/destroy us, including but not limited to,  North Korea, Iran, Russia, muslim radicals in general, etc etc etc..............................etc, and probably China!

You forgot the worst of all, yourselves.

[rdunk]

Sinny, maybe this will provide you a little insight into the "who" Israel has had to deal with directly, over a lot of years!

Wars and other conflicts
Israel has been involved in a number of wars and large-scale military operations, including:

Israeli war of independence (November 1947 - July 1949) - Started as 6 months of civil war between Jewish and Arab militias at the end of the British Mandate of Palestine and turned into a regular war after the declaration of independence of Israel and the intervention of several Arab armies. In its conclusion, a set of agreements were signed between Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria, called the 1949 Armistice Agreements, which established the armistice lines between Israel and its neighbours, also known as the Green Line.

Reprisal operations (1950s - 1960s) - Military operations carried out by the Israel Defense Forces during the 1950s and 1960s. These actions were in response to constant fedayeen incursions during which Arab guerillas infiltrated from Syria, Egypt, and Jordan into Israel to carry out attacks against Israeli civilians and soldiers. The policy of the reprisal operations was exceptional due to Israel's declared aim of getting a high 'blood cost' among the enemy side which was believed to be necessary in order to deter them from committing future attacks.

Suez Crisis (October 1956) - A military attack on Egypt by Britain, France, and Israel, beginning on 29 October 1956, with the intention to occupy the Sinai Peninsula and to take over the Suez Canal. The attack followed Egypt's decision of 26 July 1956 to nationalize the Suez Canal after the withdrawal of an offer by Britain and the United States to fund the building of the Aswan Dam. Although the Israeli invasion of the Sinai was successful, the US and USSR forced it to retreat. Even so, Israel managed to re-open the Straits of Tiran and pacified its southern border.

Six-Day War (June 1967) - Fought between Israel and Arab neighbors Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. The nations of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Algeria, and others also contributed troops and arms to the Arab forces. Following the war, the territory held by Israel expanded significantly ("The Purple Line") : The West Bank (including East Jerusalem) from Jordan, Golan Heights from Syria, Sinai and Gaza from Egypt.

War of Attrition (1967–1970) - A limited war fought between the Israeli military and forces of the Egyptian Republic, the USSR, Jordan, Syria, and the Palestine Liberation Organization from 1967 to 1970. It was initiated by the Egyptians as a way of recapturing the Sinai from the Israelis, who had been in control of the territory since the mid-1967 Six-Day War. The hostilities ended with a ceasefire signed between the countries in 1970 with frontiers remaining in the same place as when the war began.

Yom Kippur War (October 1973) - Fought from October 6 to October 26, 1973 by a coalition of Arab states led by Egypt and Syria against Israel as a way of recapturing part of the territories which they lost to the Israelis back in the Six-Day War. The war began with a surprise joint attack by Egypt and Syria on the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur. Egypt and Syria crossed the cease-fire lines in the Sinai and Golan Heights, respectively. Eventually Arab forces were defeated by Israel and there were no significant territorial changes.

Palestinian insurgency in South Lebanon (1971-1982) - PLO relocate to South Lebanon from Jordan and stage attacks on the Galilee and as a base for international operations. In 1978, Israel launches Operation Litani - the first Israeli large-scale invasion of Lebanon, which was carried out by the Israel Defense Forces in order to expel PLO forces from the territory. Continuing ground and rocket attacks, and Israeli retaliations, eventually escalate into the 1982 War.

1982 Lebanon War (1982) - Began in 6 June 1982, when the Israel Defense Forces invaded southern Lebanon to expel the PLO from the territory. The Government of Israel ordered the invasion as a response to the assassination attempt against Israel's ambassador to the United Kingdom, Shlomo Argov, by the Abu Nidal Organization and due to the constant terror attacks on northern Israel made by the Palestinian guerilla organizations which resided in Lebanon. The war resulted in the expulsion of the PLO from Lebanon and created an Israeli Security Zone in southern Lebanon.

South Lebanon conflict (1982–2000) - Nearly 20 years of warfare between the Israel Defense Forces and its Lebanese proxy militias with Lebanese Muslim guerrilla, led by Iranian-backed Hezbollah, within what was defined by Israelis as the "Security Zone" in South Lebanon.

First Intifada (1987–1993) - First large-scale Palestinian uprising against Israel in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

Second Intifada (2000–2005) - Second Palestinian uprising, a period of intensified violence, which began in late September 2000.

2006 Lebanon War (summer 2006) - Began as a military operation in response to the abduction of two Israeli reserve soldiers by the Hezbollah. The operation gradually strengthened, to become a wider confrontation. The principal participants were Hezbollah paramilitary forces and the Israeli military. The conflict started on 12 July 2006 and continued until a United Nations-brokered ceasefire went into effect on 14 August 2006, though it formally ended on 8 September 2006, when Israel lifted its naval blockade of Lebanon. The war resulted in the pacification of southern Lebanon and in the weakness of the Hezbollah (which suffered serious casualties but managed to survive the Israeli onslaught).

Gaza War (December 2008 - January 2009) - Three-week armed conflict between Israel and Hamas during the winter of 2008–2009. In an escalation of the ongoing Israeli–Palestinian conflict, Israel responded to ongoing rocket fire from the Gaza Strip with military force in an action titled "Operation Cast Lead". Israel opened the attack with a surprise air strike on December 27, 2008. Israel's stated aim was to stop such rocket fire from and the import of arms into Gaza. Israeli forces attacked military and civilian targets, police stations, and government buildings in the opening assault. Israel declared an end to the conflict on January 18 and completed its withdrawal on January 21, 2009.

Operation Pillar of Defense (November 2012) - Military offensive on the Gaza Strip.[1]

Operation Protective Edge (July 2014) - Military offensive on the Gaza Strip as a response to the collapse of American-sponsored peace talks, attempts by rival Palestinian factions to form a coalition government, the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teenagers, the subsequent kidnapping and murder of a Palestinian teenager, and increased rocket attacks on Israel by Hamas militants.[2]

More:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Israel

[rdunk]

You should come to Portugal, we have many people that are not pro-Israel and some that are against Israel as it is now.
You forgot the worst of all, yourselves.

ArMaP, are you talking about Christians, as you say "many people"? I could understand "people/non-Christians" being not pro-Israel, but, IMO, there is no place for such as a truly believing Christian, except for the fact that many Christians do not really know much about what the Word actually says anyway. And I am not saying that I know it all either, but I do know, according to the Word where God stands with Israel, and thus where we Christians are to stand concerning Israel.

[Sinny]

Sorry Rdunk, I'll have to compose a considered response.

In the mean time, you can picture me running head first into a brick wall.

[RUSSO]

Oh, and Rdunk, who are the enemies that want to bring down Israel the UK and USA?

If I understood correctly the lessons learned here, it is easy to answer:

All those nations led by Satan.

May I have a cockie now?

[Sinny]

You misunderstood me Rdunk, I do not need to know how many many mini genocides Israel has initiated since it's inception;  I do want to know however,  *who* the people are behind running the show of this entity that you call 'Isreal'.

Presumably 'Israel' the physical piece of land hasn't spouted arms and legs from the ground and begun fights with the Arabs.

I specifically wish to know who is in charge of the 'entity' Isreal... Did you say something about God?

Does that mean that the British government and the Rothschilds were made stewards of Israel by your God also?

It was they who brought this entity Israel into creation, was it not? Who is stewarding Israel as we speak? Can you name God's people?

I suppose the Rothschild support in the Slave trade and Nazism was part of Gods plan to? Must have been to be carried out by Gods chosen people (?).

"The enemies of America are Iran, Russia, Muslim Radicals, etc etc etc... Possibly China" .

What is that? A script from fox news?

Do you even believe that statement yourself?

Russia was never truly Russia since 1917 when the Bolshevik brothers of the western Zionists took over, and they spread their doctrines to Red China.

The reality of the deep politics and international relations far differ from your closed pespective.

Isreal, the US and the UK are indeed under threat, but only by the very same force you yourself are showing reverence.

Most the bible is perverted hogwash (IMO), one thing I did take on board however were the teachings of Jesus Christ, some of these included, but were not limited to; Love thy neighbor, let he without sin cast the first stone, turn the other cheek. Quite the opposite from 'fear everybody who does not conform as you'.

Your particular denomination of Christianity does confuse me, although that's not your fault.

I think ArMaps comment should be taken into account with the fact Portugal's majority religion is Catholicism.

[rdunk]

Thanks for your work commenting Sinny, but I certainly hope you are not expecting me to bother with a reply to your opinions either. And the truth of these matters seem to be playing out as we speak! Hold on, because it is going to be a real ride, whenever it finally occurs - horribly bad for many, and fantastic for a few (according to the Word of God (Bible).

[starwarp2000]

This thread seems to have devolved into a bash Israel contest!
The original intent was to spotlight Obamas treasonous act of releasing Top Secret information. We know now that he lied about Netanyahu's speech before Congress! We know he told the media that Netanyahu went behind his back to speak to Congress when he didn't! The visit was vetoed before by all houses and Obama is a blatant liar!
Now he doesn't have to go for re-election, so he (in spite) has decided to make living hell for Israel.
Even your antisemitic views aside, has anyone ever thought of what the world would be like if Israel was gone?
They are the buffer between totally radical Islam and the rest of the Middle East! Obamas destabilizing attempts have resulted in even Saudi Arabia, and 'pacifist' Jordan, taking up arms.
You reap what you sow! Behold the Nuclear Armed Iran, worlds first State Sponsor of Terrorism, come to lie in your bed. Behold the new world that you have created!
Obama based his campaign on the slogan, "Change", but its not the change the world needs!

[burntheships]

@Starwarp,

Yes you are right on all points imo.

Aslo...Isreal is the only true democratic State in
the ME, and Israel is an Ally of The United States.

Truth be told Obama seems to be holding his harshest
for U.S. Allies, and his best given to the enemy.
Odd that.

Hmmm.......