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Is the Universe a Computer? New Evidence Emerges

Started by zorgon, April 04, 2015, 08:44:11 PM

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The Matrix Traveller

WHERE exactly is the Universe Located in the realm of ALL??? (Many on Earth believe to be their ONLY Reality.)

Can ANYONE tell you WHERE this little Universe is.
Even most scientist believe we all exist in a huge Universe, but most forget that what you see
and interact with, is a tiny little 'Holograph' in the 'Visual Cortex' of each brain.

WHY Assume that what you experience in the 'Visual Cortex', and its associated areas
is the same as Outside the processing system of the brain ?   :o
And Not just Data, being decoded in the brain ?

The software in a Gaming package, looks nothing like what is displayed on your computer screen or 'X Box'.

So too, is the case with the human 'Avatar' in its Environment.
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But 1st we need to Identify what LIFE actually is.

Some Scientists suggest that LIFE itself, (A conscious sate) is Independent of the brain, while others argue the fact ? ? ?

Pimander

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on April 07, 2015, 08:50:10 AM
is the same as Outside the processing system of the brain ?   :o
And Not just Data, being decoded in the brain ?
Decoding of data is what computer software does.  But what receives the decoded data?  Memory right.

So memory is where the information resides.  The Akashic record or memory is where the "image" of the universe we recognise exists.

The Matrix Traveller

100% Correct Pimander

The Data or Memory exists in a 'Conceptual Processing System' constructed on 'Concepts' delivered via Communication
(Geometric Expression) between the 'Ends' of Conscious like Awareness, which is just other words
for LIFE.

But sadly with many experiencing the Earth Program, fall in to the error of thinking, the Experience
i.e. their body is LIFE.  :(

Ellirium113

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on April 07, 2015, 09:44:27 PM
100% Correct Pimander

The Data or Memory exists in a 'Conceptual Processing System' constructed on 'Concepts' delivered via Communication
(Geometric Expression) between the 'Ends' of Conscious like Awareness, which is just other words
for LIFE.

But sadly with many experiencing the Earth Program, fall in to the error of thinking, the Experience
i.e. their body is LIFE.  :(

So I'm guessing the conceptual processing system would reside in a nonvolatile memory and what we experience would be in volatile memory. Each time the game restarts it is a different game running on the same engine.

The Matrix Traveller


rdunk

Quote from: Pimander on April 07, 2015, 01:42:46 PM
Decoding of data is what computer software does.  But what receives the decoded data?  Memory right.

So memory is where the information resides.  The Akashic record or memory is where the "image" of the universe we recognise exists.

So Pi, do you have any specific factual evidence or photos of this to share with us, or................. is it just an assumption that there is nothing "physical" anywhere, on this planet nor in the universe??

For me, it is way beyond a stretch to give any consideration of belief that this Universe is anything other than what it materialistically and over time reveals to us, as we (man) studies it.

Certainly size is a dimensionally relative thing for sure, but dealing with known sizes, we pretty well know the general basics of our solar system, and its relativity of the Sun and planets within it. Our Sun is not a lifeless computer generated program. The Sun is alive, and there is a multitude of ways we KNOW that to be true! Even our human bodies are "designed" to synergistically respond to the Sun's rays in various ways to promote man's health and life. Same can be said for most all plants and animals.

No, we do not have to go to the edge of the known Universe to know that what we see, hear, feel, and know as common knowledge is materially real! And that is.....even though our minds and knowledge of what we refer to as "the Universe" is so small that a lot of people spend time in trying to propose that it is something it is not, and receive receptive understanding from we know-nothings.

Somebody here simply reach down and touch the dirt you are standing on - better yet, take off your shoes and feel the dirt between your toes - even dirt has "LIFE" in it, not a computer program!! :)

There are a lot of things that remain unknown to a lot of we folks, but at the very least, the reality of the "dirt we know" should be real to all of us! And, still for sure, we all can go to Home Depot and buy more dirt if we happen to need more!! :))

The Matrix Traveller

QuoteThe Sun is alive, and there is a multitude of ways we KNOW that to be true!

WHAT is LIFE ? (in your interpretation)

Ellirium113

QuoteSomebody here simply reach down and touch the dirt you are standing on - better yet, take off your shoes and feel the dirt between your toes - even dirt has "LIFE" in it, not a computer program!! :)

Our computer programs simply are not that complex yet. We are getting there very quickly take for example this video (don't need to watch it all). Observe the landscape and animals etc. Picture where this is going to be 10 years from now. Will you be able to visually distinguish this from reality?



Now if this sort of gaming technology at some point gets combined with programs that affect other senses or to stretch it even a tad further...that interface directly with the brain it will become more difficult to distinguish. It is not so hard to grasp the concept. Only to grasp the complexity of OUR program.

rdunk

Ellirum113, much of the problem now is related to the fact that various computer programs, especially games, tend to mimic to the maximum extent possible the actual dirt reality of known everyday things, and everyday life. So, of course as these become more seeable real, as they have, then at some point some are going to start trying to make the unreal into a/the "figment of reality" - but in fact it will never be, except in the own minds of those who are misled to the point of acceptance. :)

The Matrix Traveller

The 'WORD' is the processing Language, in LIFE's 1st person experiences.

Those experiencing the earth program, are trying to copy/mimic such in vain.

We should learn more about The 'WORD' and expand our experiences using the Programs,
LIFE has already Created, through The WORD.

The word, 'WORD' means Communication !

RUSSO

Carl Jung - Face to Face



And before you say that he said he believed in a mythological god, think again.

"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

The Matrix Traveller

Thank you RUSSO, for presenting this video clip. I very much enjoyed it and strongly recommend to others
to watch and listen to it also.

Pimander

Quote from: rdunk on April 07, 2015, 11:23:38 PM
So Pi, do you have any specific factual evidence or photos of this to share with us, or................. is it just an assumption that there is nothing "physical" anywhere, on this planet nor in the universe??
It is not an assumption based on nothing.  It is based on quantum physics is the best way I can explain it.  This deserves a whole thread but, in brief you need to understand some basic physics concepts.  I have highlighted in bold type the crucial points.


Nonlocality:
   Nonlocality describes the fact that objects created out of some initially mixed (or common) state will remain correlated and instantaneously "communicate" with each other even when separated by large distances. Nonlocality postulates a principle of holistic interconnectedness operating at the quantum level, contradicting the localistic assumptions of classical, Newtonian physics.[/color]


The Uncertainty Principle (Heisenberg):
    The Uncertainty Principle states that both the position and the momentum of a particle cannot be simultaneously and precisely measured. The more precisely the position (or momentum) of a particle is measured, the less precisely one can measure what its momentum (or position) might be. This principle has profound implications for both the classical concept of cause-and-effect and the determinacy of past and future events.

There is also the results of the double slit experiment which seems to force us to abandon the idea of a photon (or light particle) — or any other quantum system — as having a location in spacetime until it is observed.


QuoteSomebody here simply reach down and touch the dirt you are standing on - better yet, take off your shoes and feel the dirt between your toes - even dirt has "LIFE" in it, not a computer program!! :)
But is the memory, or experience of the event is real then it is real.  Does it make any difference to the experience that the event is just data?  All of our experience is data.  The data is real.  In that sense so is "life", whatever you define life as.


I don't think that animism (that al is alive) and the simulation theory are mutually exclusive.

Somamech

Rdunk you have some tough skin mate LOL

Did anyone see the recent thread on ATS about the NSA?

There is a dude on there harrowing the "OP NSA GUY" about this very matter which is being discussed here.  His website is here:

https://universalbri.wordpress.com/author/universalbri/

^The above person started posting a few or more page's into the thread and Skeptick Overlord seemed to vouch for this guy on this thread:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1062842/pg1

I still maintain that at the end of the day not many people answer the question of why this experience on this planet called Earth is the way it is.  Why is this experience WE ALL SHARE no matter what we believe so bloody confusing ?  :o   :-X :-X :-X






The Matrix Traveller

QuoteI still maintain that at the end of the day not many people answer the question of why this experience on this planet called Earth is the way it is.  Why is this experience WE ALL SHARE no matter what we believe so bloody confusing ?  :o   :-X :-X :-X

The reason being we all have "Double Logic" in our human Genome. We are always confronted with
2 Opposite Answers, (Yes & No) hence some reverting to blind belief.

Q. Why do we have Double Logic in out Genome ?
A. There came 200 Aliens to this planet 5 to 6,000 years ago who fornicated with the woman on earth.
These 200 aliens were of Hermaphrodite species. The result produced through crossbreeding
produced the double logic in the human Genome.

Q.  Why was this permitted.
A.  Part of the program bring about changes within our individual Processing System which both generates
and presents the programs we experience.

In order for the Software Upgrades to be uploaded to our individual Processors, we had to forget everything
and initiate the download by 1st asking out outer End. (Choice or Free Will Involved)

LIFE never forces anything but always retains freedom of choice.

The 'Double Logic' came in by choice 5 to 6 thousand years ago and affects all of us.

It was the choice made by EVE according to biblical writings, and you will probably find similar scenarios
in other ancient writings using different names and stories.

CAIN was said to be the 1st offspring of EVE who was born of the Wicked One (A Hermaphrodite Alien)
Thus the crime EVE committed wasn't just Intercourse but instead Adultery !

CAIN received the 'Mark', (Mark of the Beast) according to the writings.

The Books of E'NOCH, (Not accepted by the Cannon, because they are the ones trying to hide this knowledge)
E'NOCH reports that 200 of these Aliens came to the earth and committed adultery in many cases and fornication
in other cases producing a wide range of bizarre offspring due to genetic mismatching etc. hence the Giants etc.
E'NOCH gives the name of the Leaders of these Aliens.
They weren't spirits or anything else because only flesh can copulate with flesh.

It is when we Complete the 'Books' (Program Books) re. the Earth, that we enter a different experience
void of this 'Double Logic' biblical writings refer to as the mark of the beast or the 666 Algorithm.
This is why we are confused, get ill, and why we die.  :(