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Is the Universe a Computer? New Evidence Emerges

Started by zorgon, April 04, 2015, 08:44:11 PM

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astr0144

#30
The final frontier - a horizon guide to the universe.

Dr Kaku gives a possible explanation of how the  Universe & big Bang may have came to be, suggesting that there was something before the big bang...with a good ref to some of Matrix's Nothing is actually Something theory.

He visits the NASA's Worlds Largest Vacuum chamber  (The Space Power Facility in Ohio) where he describes how they pump out all the air and matter molecules etc to create almost space like conditions on Earth with an almost perfect vacuum. Then explains how once the vacuum is created and that we may think of it as now being almost complete nothingness...that it depends upon how one thinks of or determines as  "Nothing".

He goes on then to explain about it as having dimension and properties within the boundaries of the Vacuum chamber...of which light can travel through..so there for this "Nothing" is in fact something.!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Power_Facility





see from 51minutes 54 secs.




zorgon

So...

If you HACK the System...  and reprogram it...

...would that make you GOD?


The Matrix Traveller

Quote from: zorgon on April 09, 2015, 10:26:28 PM
So...

If you HACK the System...  and reprogram it...

...would that make you GOD?



IF as is reported in the bible Ye are gods, How can one become a god
IF we are already gods?   :)


The Gospel According to John Chapter 10 verse 34

34.
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?   :)


The Acts of the Apostles Chapter 17 verse 28

28. For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said,
for we are also his offspring.


astr0144

#33
I would have to question if the Universe was a Computer like Program...

How & why was that created ?

What created it ?

If its a Program , its a like or a form of a System...

If all that comes about from starting from the Nothing becoming something and evolving from that to what we have today...Is it purely down to fate as to what we experience now..or is there some form of design & development to it ?

QuoteSo...

If you HACK the System...  and reprogram it...

...would that make you GOD?

RUSSO

Quote from: zorgon on April 09, 2015, 10:26:28 PM
So...

If you HACK the System...  and reprogram it...

...would that make you GOD?



If the reality is a program, probably the programmers would just delete you in that case. :P

The funny thing is, if this is a simulated "world", everything is possible, even a programed god and a digital diablo ;D. It all depends of what the guys that did it have had as a purpose.

As an agnostic, my view is nothing exists until it can be observed and proved.
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

The Matrix Traveller

QuoteIf all that comes about from starting from the Nothing becoming something

But 'Nothing' is Something, or you would NOT be able to relate to word Nothing !    :)

That is WHY the Word NOTHING is in your Dictionary.   ;)

Because 'Nothing' is Something the 2,

a.     'Nothing'
and
b.    'Something'.

Can't be totally separated ....

It's NOT possible to have one without the other.

They exist as a Pair !

It's a 'Paradox' !

Its this Paradox which provided an 'Astable State'.... The 1st Abstract 'Oscillation'.   :)

Shasta56

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on April 09, 2015, 10:52:31 PM
IF as is reported in the bible Ye are gods, How can one become a god
IF we are already gods?   :)


The Gospel According to John Chapter 10 verse 34

34.
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?   :)


The Acts of the Apostles Chapter 17 verse 28

28. For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said,
for we are also his offspring.

The LDS Church teaches that its members can become gods.  But if we began as part of The Creator, then are all already The Creator.   We just don't realize it.

Shasta
Daughter of Sekhmet

The Matrix Traveller

Quote from: Shasta56 on April 10, 2015, 12:23:35 AM
The LDS Church teaches that its members can become gods.  But if we began as part of The Creator, then are all already The Creator.   We just don't realize it.

Shasta

BINGO.

No truer words spoken.

rdunk

#38
Shasta - Adam, our forefather, was not created as a God! Adam was created by God, and was the "created" "Son of God" (ref. Luke 3:38). Then Jesus became the only begotten Son of God.

Now, to take that to the next level, who are we?? Well, we all are descendants of Adam, and we are not Gods either. But Adam's disobedience brought sin and death to himself, to man, and to all of his descendants, of the which we are.

Now Jesus is the focal point for what had to be done to make a way for man to overcome what Adam did. Jesus, who was God's Son, became a man, as God's only begotten son. And, God allowed Jesus to be sacrificed in a way that spiritually gained forgiveness of sin for all of man, but each of us has to accept Jesus and that forgiveness in order to receive it. And in doing so, a man becomes a Christian, which means Christ-like. And being Christ-like, "the Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God, and if children, then heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ........ Romans 8:16-17)

So briefly, for  Christians, this is how man/we can become "God-like"! :)







The Matrix Traveller

A'DAM was NOT MAN !

A'DAM is a Primate.

IF A'DAM was a SOUL he would NOT have experienced Death !

MAN is a living SOUL NOT a Primate.

The 'Tree of A'DAM' stole the 'Title' of MAN !

The tree of A'DAM which you are of is a PRIMATE NOT a SOUL.

The SON of MAN is NOT the Carpenter ! And NOT of the Tree of A'DAM ! No matter what you want to believe.

The Canon in their evil ways would have you believe otherwise !

Amaterasu

Quote from: Somamech on April 08, 2015, 06:41:35 PM
I still maintain that at the end of the day not many people answer the question of why this experience on this planet called Earth is the way it is.  Why is this experience WE ALL SHARE no matter what we believe so bloody confusing ?  :o   :-X :-X :-X

I found it vastly more comprehensible when I took into account the fact that money and top-down controlmind lure and promote psychopaths.  Suddenly the "crazy" shite made all too much sense.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Dyna

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on April 08, 2015, 12:25:25 AM
The 'WORD' is the processing Language, in LIFE's 1st person experiences.

Those experiencing the earth program, are trying to copy/mimic such in vain.

We should learn more about The 'WORD' and expand our experiences using the Programs,
LIFE has already Created, through The WORD.

The word, 'WORD' means Communication !

Have you been able to expand your experiences? Why is the program so negative? Even the very rich and the animals are miserable mostly. people who seem to have it all kill themselves.

Is it because there is a positive and negative Earth experience also and we are on the negative one?
When the debate is lost,
slander becomes the tool of the loser.
Socrates

zorgon

Quote from: Dyna on April 10, 2015, 11:43:19 PM
Have you been able to expand your experiences? Why is the program so negative? Even the very rich and the animals are miserable mostly. people who seem to have it all kill themselves.

Is it because there is a positive and negative Earth experience also and we are on the negative one?

This is a very good point...

astr0144

#43
This is only my initial thoughts on the point that you make...Most of us are not very rich to know what its like and to experience it..so it may not be possible to really make a comparison unless we get to experience being very rich.

It may be that the majority of even the 1st World are mainly just well off enough to be reasonably satisfied and comfortable with their existence / Life'style..and may not be greatly miserable..even though most of us whine and complain..but most do go through life having to work 40 hrs or more a week 45 to 48  weeks a year for numerous (25 to 50 )years..to obtain that life style...which is one of the downsides to it...and many may strive to try to become rich but will usually face huge obstacles and lots of time in trying to achieve it, unless we are gifted lucky or just have the drive and persistance to keep on trying..

We do read about or see in the news of some rich people who die early or kill themselves, but I am sure that there are many numerous Rich people who are in a comfortable position in their life and do get to  have better experiences & enjoy their life's much more than the majority of people.

The Downside for the rich maybe that if money is a issue.. that may create a lot of problems for them to try to protect that lifestyle..and they probably have a lot more that they have to do in order to preserve it and maybe more targeted to potential threats.

I am also guessing that the richer people on the whole are the more intelligent and that they can deal with such things better....BUT they may also have a lot of cleverer people that they have to deal with who may be more of a threat to them.

so it may be just a case no matter where we are in Life we still have a lot of things that we have to worry or be concerned about..and that much of our time gets taken up having to think about stuff that may not leave us as Free as we would like to be..

But I am also sure that there are some that have almost an ultimate lifestyle that we dream about..
Lucky people they may be..

I also wonder about us all being graded in some way.
If we take Boxers for eg...The Lightweight, Middle weight and Heavy Weights....

Most box in their weight group..

ON average it would be unlikely that a Lightweight could beat a heavy weight..(within the rules of boxing)even if that Lightweight is a superior fighter...
(The Lightweight MAY beat the heavy weight in a real fight with no rules) but overall on Average I think the heavy weights would rule..

I also wonder is this the same in our Mental States/Strengths and what we are capable of being able to achieve...Maybe some of us are just limited to0 much.

If so these are Questions that I wonder as to why this is...But it seems like Darwin's theory of the fittest or maybe strongest most Intelligent survive or do better in Life on an average..I think one aggression levels in the past maybe more so would also be something that made a difference in survival or success in life.

For some of us we may realise this very early on maybe dependent upon what we get taught in Life.
For others they may not fully understand this until they are much older..


IF the poor becomes rich, they may not be able to deal with it too easy..and it may become to much mentally to deal with for some..

BUT I am sure many of us would like to give it a try !  :P



QuoteEven the very rich and the animals are miserable mostly. people who seem to have it all kill themselves.

Is it because there is a positive and negative Earth experience also and we are on the negative one?

The Matrix Traveller

ALL is created on or involving the 'Opposites' !

One can NOT exist without the other....


It's what enables 'Choice' or 'Fee Will'. (Freedom)

It is the 'Paradox Algorithm', which produces this Phenomena.

You have the ability to choose either the negative or the positive.

Just as, is the case in electricity.

We have Electron flow ( - to + ) in one direction,
and Current flow ( + to - ) in the Opposite Direction.   :)