Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?

[zorgon]

For the umpteenth time, we are in!

Facebook says you will be 68 tomorrow  Happy Birthday

Got an email from an independent ad agent  That may be fruitful

Need to finish the website and then start a fund raising campaign  Only way to get the guild really running fast is inject funding. 

Ultimately what is needed is a LOCAL team that can meet. A few other groupd have created chapters in other states but they are currently feuding again

LOL Seems Ego Wars are ever present.

Website for Pegasu  still 6 full sections to convert

Land Of legends site is almost repaires  Been working that one from the bottom up so just need to repair pointers

Coming soon

i DO need a local volunnteer that is computer savvy to sit at a desk here in the Manor

[ArMaP]

And so the cleansing of the internet begins.

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That doesn't mean much, just by looking at how the title of the page is written it looks like it didn't follow Wikipedia's rules.

One might remember that Jade Helm encompasses a "dissident extraction drill" involving members of Special Forces that are practicing, quote, "infiltration techniques", end quote, and also a martial law drill that has the obvious possibility of baiting the various militia groups with a false flag and which would a pretext for martial law.

I see that the "martial law drill" part doesn't have a "quote", is that an official quote or just something someone decided to add to make the truth harder to find?

If One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

Why do the American militaries special forces and domestic intelligence/security agencies even need to conduct such an exercise, as the United States (people/society/transportation/etc.) is so unique that the only information that could possibly be gained is in how to subjugate/suppress our own citizens?

I think that question would be asked by a conspiracy nut, not a conspiracy theorist.

If One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

the 1.5 Billion rounds of hollow point ammunition purchased with your tax dollars by DHS, NOAA (46,000 rounds), Social Security Administration (174,000 rounds), etc. - ammunition which is not ever permissible in warfare under the Geneva Conventions, but evidently the bullet of choice for quelling dissenters in Obama's Amerika.

Once more, that's a conspiracy nut question, as the "evidently" part shows, seeing that there isn't any sign of those bullets having been used to quell dissenters.

If One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

Why, specifically, the Social Security Administration needs hollow point ammo?

That's a good question, what's the difference between those bullets and the normal bullets?

[thorfourwinds]

Published on May 4, 2015
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[Phedre]

I have been looking  at this for a long time.  Usually but not  always , there is a thread (literally) that can tie things together and make some sense. This is what I've tried to do, as simply as possible.



1. For any senator who wants to study the draft TPP language, it has been made available in the basement of the Capitol, inside a secure, soundproof room. There, lawmakers surrender their cellphones and other mobile devices. Any notes taken inside the room must be left in the room.

Only aides with high-level security clearances can accompany lawmakers. Members of Congress can't ask outside industry experts or lawyers to analyze the language. They can't talk to the public about what they read. And Brown says there's no computer inside the secret room to look something up when there's confusion. You just consult the USTR official.

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/05/14/406675625/a-trade-deal-read-in-secret-by-only-few-or-maybe-none

2. Central Planning Goes Global As UN Unveils Major Sustainable Development Agenda "For The Good Of The Planet.

The UN plans to launch a brand new plan for managing the entire globe at the Sustainable Development Summit that it will be hosting from September 25th to September 27th.  Some of the biggest names on the planet, including Pope Francis, will be speaking at this summit.  This new sustainable agenda focuses on climate change of course, but it also specifically addresses topics such as economics, agriculture, education and gender equality.  For those wishing to expand the scope of "global governance", sustainable development is the perfect umbrella because just about all human activity affects the environment in some way.  The phrase "for the good of the planet" can be used as an excuse to micromanage virtually every aspect of our lives.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-16/central-planning-goes-global-un-unveils-major-sustainable-development-agenda-good-pl


I maintain that the TPP, Sustainable Developement, Agenda 21, NWO, whatever you want to call it, ARE ALL THE SAME THING. All are on "The Plate" NOW.



3. Jade Helm. I do find it most interesting that the UN shindig is going to be held the latter part of Sept. This year, just about the time Jade Helm should be finishing up with it's what ever it is doing?

[Phedre]

You can take what I posted and put it where you all think it fits. Maybe in the "Doom Porn"?   The thing is I am not sure it would be all bad?  Change IS coming, but we (me) could go "nuts"  Trying to figure it out. 

I down loaded the "Agenda 21" document  that was submitted by the UN in about 1996-7 I think and have struggled through a lot of it. The UN thing coming this Sept. Is the very same , but, it appears much more refined.

By the way HAPPY BIRTHDAY THOR!

I am very interested in what you all think!  OR  do I need an appointment for a "Jacket Fitting" ?

[WarToad]

That's a good question, what's the difference between those bullets and the normal bullets?

Hollow points are designed to penetrate less deeply but expand more greatly for more tissue damage.  They're good for self defense insofar there's less potential for "collateral damage"  ie: the bullet passing through your target and hit someone, something, you wish you hadn't.

The military doesn't use them much because they're frequently trying to shoot through something to get to their target.  Like a vehicle door, walls, sand bags, things hollow points are terrible at.  And buy quirk of dynamics, they're more accurate at short range than non-hallow points.  But there are tradeoffs to each side.

I'm not so much concerned with the Social Security Dept having hollow points, I'm concerned with just wtf is a beurocratic bean counter Dept doing with weapons?  If they need to confront a suspect violent citizen, or even non-citizen, call in the Federal Agents.  That's what they're there for.

[thorfourwinds]

Greetings Member Phedre:

Thank you for the birthday wishes. 68 years young and still climbing trees.   

Think of how much I save on fitness facility memberships!   

Your post is just fine where it is; thank you for your research and sharing.   

And you can just ignore the dissemblers (consider their sources    ) that attempt to shut down discussion because "it's just an exercise."; because if they're right, we, the people, who dare to question the government/military/authority on any level, may be considered/'proven' to be irrational sheeple that see a conspiracy everywhere - and were wrong this time.

If we are right, they will be somewhere between a rock and a hard place and we will still question why the adamant denial that union busting is perhaps only one aspect of this ever-expanding cornucopia of intriguing rabbit holes and perhaps is deserving of more than a cursory once-over.. 

(Speaking of Wrabbit, whatever happened to him? He was all over everything (good commenting stuff) and then disappeared (perhaps back to the dark side where he is a mod  ).

For us personally, there are way too many cooinkydinks for some of this to not be connected in some way at a VERY DEEP level to many of the other weird things previously mentioned.

The TUAW (Tunnels Under A Walmart) carp was the first clue that the game was on . . . get real. . . can we say RED HERRING?

We even offered a Franklin for ONE sighting (photos, if you please) and siting (Google Earth) on Tango in their shill-filled thread on this 'Walmart' 'situation; no takers as yet.   

Anyway, we contend that it's always a good idea to be ever-vigilant and stay prepared.

(And be sure to have a closet full of toilet paper...GOLD in 'difficult' times and another way to show your loved ones that you ARE prepared.

Think about it: What is Your Plan B for TP?   

tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)

[ArMaP]

Thank you for the birthday wishes. 68 years young and still climbing trees.   

Happy birthday!

(Speaking of Wrabbit, whatever happened to him? He was all over everything (good commenting stuff) and then disappeared (perhaps back to the dark side where he is a mod  ).

I don't know of any forum where he is a mod.

For us personally, there are way too many cooinkydinks for some of this to not be connected in some way at a VERY DEEP level to many of the other weird things previously mentioned.

Some may be coincidences, some may be "tweaked" to look like coincidences.

Anyway, we contend that it's always a good idea to be ever-vigilant and stay prepared.

Sure it is, I just think that being vigilant is something that should be done with care, as it's relatively easy to become paranoid from too much vigilance.

[RUSSO]

Happy birthday thorfourwinds

[thorfourwinds]

Greetings esteemed member ArMaP:

Thank you for the birthday wish.

Some may be coincidences, some may be "tweaked" to look like coincidences.

Please name just one of the some that may be tweaked, if you please.

Are you also contending that Jade Helm is merely 'an exercise' and has absolutely nothing to do with the Walmart store closures which some have emphatically stated that the union busting aspect is the only 'cause' to consider?

And how much is too much vigilance?

And how do you make that judgement call from the comparative safety of another country?

Our V/P meter (Vigilance/Paranoid) appears to be on the fritz due to the .   

Thank you for your time and consideration.

tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)

[zorgon]

Are you also contending that Jade Helm is merely 'an exercise' and has absolutely nothing to do with the Walmart store closures which some have emphatically stated that the union busting aspect is the only 'cause' to consider?

Most likely  yes

And how much is too much vigilance?

When you turn into Chicken Little and scream the Sky is Falling 

Our V/P meter (Vigilance/Paranoid) appears to be on the fritz due to the .   

That would explain it  Too much sun

[spacemaverick]

The sky is falling!

[ArMaP]

Greetings esteemed member ArMaP:

Thank you for the birthday wish.

You're welcome.

Please name just one of the some that may be tweaked, if you please.

I don't know if they are any, that's why I said "some may", as I see that as possible (as a way for someone to try to steer events/reactions in the direction they want) but I don't really know if it is happening or not.

Are you also contending that Jade Helm is merely 'an exercise' and has absolutely nothing to do with the Walmart store closures which some have emphatically stated that the union busting aspect is the only 'cause' to consider?

No, but I do need more data that supports that theory, just someone saying it is not enough for me.

And how much is too much vigilance?

That's the most difficult part, each person has to know him/herself to know that.

The problem is that all parts of the human body (as far as I know) get better with practice (I'm sure that's why you can climb trees better than many younger people ), so when we "train" our brain to be vigilant we get in an active "vigilance mode", and we start to see reasons for worrying in most things, in the same way we don't see any problem in any thing if we never worry about any thing.

As with most all things, each one of us has to analyse his/her own reactions and adjust their our behaviour accordingly.

And how do you make that judgement call from the comparative safety of another country?

My opinion is based on my interpretation of human nature, and as humans are the same everywhere I think it applies in any case where humans are involved. It's also biased by what I witnessed of how a totalitarian regime acts to suppress dissent and/or create support among the people.

[Glaucon]

"it's just an exercise."; because if they're right, we, the people, who dare to question the government/military/authority on any level, may be considered/'proven' to be irrational sheeple that see a conspiracy everywhere - and were wrong this time.

I believe this was referring to my response?

I wasn't in anyway trying to "quell" an inquiry into this topic.

You may enjoy a couple hours worth of studying UW (unconventional warfare) and/or hybrid warfare. These are the underlying concepts for this exercise. Codified in doctrine.

" This is another type of war, new in its intensity, ancient in its origin--war by guerrillas, subversives, insurgents, assassins, war by ambush instead of by combat; by infiltration, instead of aggression, seeking victory by eroding and exhausting the enemy instead of engaging him. It is a form of warfare uniquely adapted to what has been strangely called "wars of liberation," to undermine the efforts of new and poor countries to maintain the freedom that they have finally achieved. It preys on economic unrest and ethnic conflicts. It requires in those situations where we must counter it, and these are the kinds of challenges that will be before us in the next decade if freedom is to be saved, a whole new kind of strategy, a wholly different kind of force, and therefore a new and wholly different kind of military training."-JFK

[Glaucon]

Happy birthday, Winds!