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[ArMaP]

Clearly that's not what I said.

That's what I thought you meant, what other "'splaining" does he need to do? He told what he did and what he found.

What's your angle?

I'm trying to get a clear answer, something that most people here, apparently, don't like.

[astr0144]

Unfortunately some of the facts that I may have been more aware about on either Nibiru  or "Winged Planet" have faded.. and unless I think it was really coming soon I don't have the incentive to try to spend time rechecking the details..

As you say .. many a past video or article has been removed and now replaced.. ....Yes maybe by certain hoaxers.


I can see how it probably would have related to the 2012 myth at the time..maybe later they had suggested a 2nd date of May 2013..

but I think they did say it would be visible from Earth in may 2009.

I had some info and dates etc that were given back then when it was expected to become visible or create destruction on Earth...

Well that date was 2012   But Sitchin did not say that

Is it False or could there be truth to it ?

At the time I thought that it may have been a possibility. But I did not look into detail of the facts that you suggest were mainly created by Z Sitchen.

I came across the ref to the old Ancients such as the Sumerian and there was also mention of what I thought was a race of the  "Annunaki".

but this article says they were Gods of the Sumerians who had Android beings..

Some suggestions that they may be like the Grey Aliens.  but there was also mention at the time of Giants that had come from the visiting Planet and had at one time been here on earth.

That was maybe why I thought it could have had possibilities.

This information poses an interesting Hypothesis that the "Annunaki" are the GODS as described by the Sumerians, and they had "Android Beings" helping them

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/anunnaki/anu_1b.htm

If not Nibiru.. is there a similar 10th Planet ? that may be a possibility to connect with the Anunnaki ?

Yes I think you can see it from the equator but it may also vary at the time of year and what part of the equator.. Not sure How the Earths 23 degree tilt may effect things in relation to the North Star !
Is it always aligned or does it wobble or vary with ref to the real North ?

If one is Just below the equator or at the Southern tropics.. Can they see the North Star ?  I dont think they could.

Just like we could NOT see the southern sky from just above the equator ! if for eg their was a object able to approach direct from the sky aline the mid South point axis.

That is likely the STUPIDEST thing anyone 'suggested'  The North Star is over the North pole, yet you can see it from almost the equator.

I am not sure if its all purely down to his theory !
or if other sources may have suggested it as possibility.

Well look  lets END this   Z Sitchin INVENTED Nibiru... No one heard about it before his theory... so would it not be wise to LISTEN to what Z Sitchen wrote

There MAY be some evidence to suggest some major Earth destructions back on cycles of 3600 yrs .. but you can only go back so far as to when its recorded by Man...

Anything else further back could only be done by Science !

"Nibiru settled into a clockwise orbit (equal to 3,600 orbits of Earth around the Sun). Nibiru stabilized into a clockwise orbit, equal to 3,600 orbits of Earth around the Sun until 10, 900 B.C.E.

If it was for real that is a relief to know its 2900 AD! 

revolution sped to 3.450 Earth years; which makes Nibiru's next return 2900A.D. rather than 2012 as predicated on the earlier 3600- year orbit"

2900 AD  not 2012

In Sitchin's own words... that is 892 years away...

Was that purely my mistake or was there varitions  at the time leading into 2012 in the story that they considered Nibiru either a Planet or Brown Dwarf ?

The assumed Brown Dwarf beyond the Kuiper Belt is named NEMISIS and is hypothetical

Can you give a brief explanation what you meant by a Gate ? or cross point.

Probably a lot even though Beth and I told people Nibiru was a GATE a CROSSING POINT

what has happened to Beth ? and Gigas ? Not seen any of them for a long time online ..

[Dyna]

I guess Taco Bell gives a date of 11/23 not sure what date this was made

[this_is_who_we_are]

That's what I thought you meant, what other "'splaining" does he need to do? He told what he did and what he found.
I'm trying to get a clear answer, something that most people here, apparently, don't like.

According to him he found nothing after careful analysis. I would like to hear his explanation as to what exactly his careful analysis entailed and why he found nothing unusual when in fact the object is plainly there as conjectured and fits the description 100%.

Are we clear?

[rdunk]

Well, I did go to Google Sky myself, just to see if I could find this "winged looking feature". I did go there, and yep, it is actually there. I will post another pic of it, as it does have the coordinates pinned in the pic. At 1000 or so light years away, as Zorgon said, not a lot to be concerned about today anyway.

Now, with a fourth blood Moon coming September 28, 2015, there might be more reason for our concern with that, than with this "winged planet"??

[ArMaP]

According to him he found nothing after careful analysis. I would like to hear his explanation as to what exactly his careful analysis entailed and why he found nothing unusual when in fact the object is plainly there as conjectured and fits the description 100%.

The object is not on the original photo, what more do you need to know?

Are we clear?

Now I know what you meant, thanks.

[thorfourwinds]

The object is not on the original photo, what more do you need to know?

That's the whole point of the conversation: why is not the object in the original photo and why did ngchunter post that he had found the missing piece, which has now been disproven by non other than Google?

Here, ngchunter emphatically states that the black box is still there.

And states that the coordinates are wrong.

No they are not. Those are the coordinates for a T Tauri star and reflection nebula. They are not the coordinates of the missing section of google sky. It has never been censored.

Huh, funny, it wasn't censored... Look at the coordinates; 5h 53m 27s, -6d 10' 56" for the "missing section" and then 5h 42m 21s, +22d 36' 34.5" for the image of the T Tauri star and nebula. That's over 28 degrees different in declination and nearly 3 degrees different in right ascension. It's not in the "missing region" at all. It's just a T Tauri type star and associated reflection nebula.

WTF? These are coordinates not discussed previously. What's going here?

So, how did rdunk find this?

originally posted by: Misterlondon
So what exactly is under the "glitch"?

Can you summerize your findings..

Not sure what you mean? You mean under the blue plate anomaly? Well according to the original negative, nothing at all, just black space.

originally posted by: notmyrealname
This is, in my opinion the epitome of ATS excellence! I commend you fine OP and look forward to meeting the excellent bar you have placed for us all!

Thank you! I've got the bits I need to make part II of this and cover some other aspects of google sky, I just have to find the time to put it all together in a new video.

Right now Gill Broussard's claim has my attention, and then there's the whole spat regarding the false claim of a "winged planet" that was supposedly in the region I covered here.

Needless to say, that's not actually present here in the missing image, it's in a completely different part of Google sky.

Well, yeah, when you intentionally attempt to bamboozle peeps with your misleading coordinates just to protect your previous point.   

We invited Gill to join the conversation.

[zorgon]

I can see how it probably would have related to the 2012 myth at the time..maybe later they had suggested a 2nd date of May 2013..

Well it is a tradition Every time a Gloom and Doom prediction doesn't happen, someone comes along and sets a new date  based on... well who knows WHAT it is based on

but I think they did say it would be visible from Earth in may 2009.

Well Zeta Talk predicted it would be here in 2003  Many people sold everything and bought bunkers...  today it is 2015 and we still don't see it   Do you know how many people have telescopes?

Is it False or could there be truth to it ?
At the time I thought that it may have been a possibility. But I did not look into detail of the facts that you suggest were mainly created by Z Sitchen.

No not 'mainly"  ALL  Sitchin made an error in misinterpreting Sumerian text  and he made up Nibiru as a roque planet... The FIRST time anyone ever heard of Nibiru was when he released his book  "The 12th Planet" 1976 

Here is the wiki short version

Sitchin attributes the creation of the ancient Sumerian culture to the Anunnaki, which he states was a race of extraterrestrials from a planet beyond Neptune called Nibiru. He believed this hypothetical planet of Nibiru to be in an elongated, elliptical orbit in the Earth's own Solar System, asserting that Sumerian mythology reflects this view. Sitchin's books have sold millions of copies worldwide and have been translated into more than 25 languages.

Sitchin's ideas have been rejected by scientists and academics, who dismiss his work as pseudoscience and pseudohistory. His work has been criticized for flawed methodology and mistranslations of ancient texts as well as for incorrect astronomical and scientific claims

I came across the ref to the old Ancients such as the Sumerian and there was also mention of what I thought was a race of the  "Annunaki".

See above  Sitchin made them up too

but this article says they were Gods of the Sumerians who had Android beings..

Some suggestions that they may be like the Grey Aliens.  but there was also mention at the time of Giants that had come from the visiting Planet and had at one time been here on earth.

That was maybe why I thought it could have had possibilities.


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/anunnaki/anu_1b.htm

If not Nibiru.. is there a similar 10th Planet ? that may be a possibility to connect with the Anunnaki ?

People on the net have taken a whole bunch of unrelated stuff and created a fantasy Planet X is NOT the tenth planet... it is merely the next undiscovered planet. Pluto was Planet X originally.  The Brown Dwarf that NASA thinks might exist at the outer rim of the solar system close enough to cause comets to fall sunwrd... is called NEMESIS...

Annunaki of Nibiru... invented by Sitchin...

But since then everyone out to make a buck or sell fear have embellished the story

[zorgon]

Yes I think you can see it from the equator but it may also vary at the time of year and what part of the equator.. Not sure How the Earths 23 degree tilt may effect things in relation to the North Star !
Is it always aligned or does it wobble or vary with ref to the real North ?

Yes there is a slight wobble because the Earth wobbles as it rotates (gravity effect of the moon and sun

PS IF there was a huge planet or Dwarf Star that close the we could see it with the naked eye, you would feel a lot more wobble

If one is Just below the equator or at the Southern tropics.. Can they see the North Star ?  I don't think they could.

Just like we could NOT see the southern sky from just above the equator ! if for eg their was a object able to approach direct from the sky aline the mid South point axis.

WE wouldn't but everyon living in the SOUTHERN hemapsphere would You DO know there are people livng in the southern hemosphere yes?

No but you said Nibiru is coming from the South pole... The people who made that claim were to stupid to realize that;

1) there are many people living in Antarctica
2) There is a HUGE telescope in Antarctica
3) Everyone in the southern hemosphere would be able to see it

I am not sure if its all purely down to his theory !
or if other sources may have suggested it as possibility.

No there are no other sources  Sitchin made it up... everyone else came later and messed it up. BTW Sitchin never mentioned the Mayans That was book sellers later

There MAY be some evidence to suggest some major Earth destructions back on cycles of 3600 yrs .. but you can only go back so far as to when its recorded by Man...

There are stories of the Sumerians and Tibetans of a planetary war... but NOT a recurring wandering planet...  That would be Tiamet  and it would have been in the Sumerian creation. But that war... left Mars scarred and barren and the other planet destroyed (see asteroid belt )

Anything else further back could only be done by Science !

Science cannot study something that does not exist. Science needs to have a solid thing to study. They have already rejected the theory of it as nonsence. But when NASA says "We found Planet X!"  people say "AH HA!!! Nibiru!"  but no  NASA says "No it is called Eris with moon Dysnomia"

When NASA says "There might be a dwarf star on the outskirts bumping comets towards the sun" people say "AH HA!!! Nibiru!"   NASA says "No it is NEMESIS"

If it was for real that is a relief to know its 2900 AD! 

Sichin added that date AFTER people kept bugging him for a date He never had a date at the beginning...  So he made a date into the far future and gave it an explanation.

Was that purely my mistake or was there varitions  at the time leading into 2012 in the story that they considered Nibiru either a Planet or Brown Dwarf ?

Not your mistake as such... you are the victim of deliberate Obfuscation

But we HAVE covered all this before



Can you give a brief explanation what you meant by a Gate ? or cross point.

what has happened to Beth ? and Gigas ? Not seen any of them for a long time online ..
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[astr0144]

I don't claim to have taken maybe enough time to try and follow or understand the Google missing sky image.

Having taken a quick look at the video.

He refers to an older image from 1983..which I think he suggests may have flaws on it. that he downloads from somewhere to be able to place it over that part of the sky on googles sky map..But There is a Blue object that appears on the top left..

Later he refers to a photo  that he took in November of the same part of the sky and places that over the sky map and there is no blue object visible.

Then he says he went to Michigan Uni last month whenever that was, maybe late last year if his post was Jan 2015... to obtain what I think is either a original copy of the film Negative for that same sky area  ... I assume that its the same 1983 date... or is this a more updated copy.

IF its the same 1983 copy.. then I assume hes saying that that negative has NO Flaws on it.

and when he later places the copy he creates after doing his work to inverse the negative to become a photographic positive .. and places it back and overlays it  over the original area that he was looking at of google sky Map..

He then blends in his obtained plate image, over the sky part and the other image fades out.. and we see the top left image disappear.

He then suggest that Google sky were NOT covering anything up.

If it is an identical 1983 plate of what was the google sky plate that he originally showed... then he may have a point.

but if the dates of them vary... then something could have been in the original and appeared to have  moved if he obtained the new plate with an alternative date.

Other than that I may be missing something or have not caught on as yet.

I am not sure if he had taken other photos at other dates before the ones he says he took in November.

When you refer to Black Box is still there.. I assume that you do  mean the missing google map sky area is still blank with no stars today and its not as yet been filled in with the missing sky image !

Here, ngchunter emphatically states that the black box is still there.

[zorgon]

He then suggest that Google sky were NOT covering anything up.

WHY would Google cover up anything?

When I found the Russian Space Laser site on a very very fuzzy google earth image, they sent the satellite over that spot to get it in high res... The moderator posted that on their forum and thanked me.  My description is still the one marking that spat

[zorgon]

That's the whole point of the conversation: why is not the object in the original photo and why did ngchunter post that he had found the missing piece, which has now been disproven by non other than Google?

ngchunter is a moron in my books   Much worse than Phage ever was. I did find it satisfying when an amateur astronomer nee satellite watcher spotted the then secret X37 space plane forcing NASA to release it on Space Weather LOL

Seeing him say "secret space plane" in posts as if it has ALWAYS been there was hilarious... after the grief he gave me an John in the secret spaceship thread LMAO

As for Google sky, Moon, Mars etc... They are the worst thing you can use. Always better to find their SOURCE photos because google stuff is so big it adds artifacts and looses data

And yes Google does hide stuff

Google Hides Military Base
Volkel, Uden, Netherlands
+51° 39' 27.92", +5° 42' 8.09"



I had "Boots on the ground at THIS one" because of this cover

Chukotka Russia
Unknown ICBM Facility
Chukotka Autonomous Okrug
No longer in Service?
66°15'42.71"N 179°14'47.77"E

[ArMaP]

That's the whole point of the conversation: why is not the object in the original photo and why did ngchunter post that he had found the missing piece, which has now been disproven by non other than Google?

If the object is not in the original photo then it wasn't there when the photo was taken, or are you implying that the negative was altered?

And what was disproved by Google?

Here, ngchunter emphatically states that the black box is still there.

Because it is, I'm looking at it.

And states that the coordinates are wrong.

The coordinates posted for the "winged planet" are wrong when talking about that missing area of the sky that was the topic of that thread.

WTF? These are coordinates not discussed previously. What's going here?

Apparently there's some confusion about the topic of that thread. 

So, how did rdunk find this?

Probably in the same way I did, by looking at those coordinates, in the same way I found the missing area by looking at the coordinates for that area.

Different areas, different coordinates. In the image below, the red marker shows the place of the "winged planet", the green marker the place of the missing area.

Well, yeah, when you intentionally attempt to bamboozle peeps with your misleading coordinates just to protect your previous point.   

I think you should think before talking about misleading coordinates.

[zorgon]

WINGED PLANET FOUND?/Nibiru?/NASA





Images now being shown of Winged Planet, Could this be the Legendary Nibiru?
5 h 42m 21.0s 22° 36? 45.7? These are The Google Sky Coordinates.

CONTROVERSIAL, HEAVILY CENSORED, PLANETARY SYSTEM JUST REVEALED TO PUBLIC FOR FIRST TIME.

For years it has been speculated by conspiracy theorists and some astronomers that Google Sky had been censoring what's known as Planet X or Nibiru from the general public's view online.

Now, shockingly, a massive swath of Google Sky that had been previously blacked out and censored has been made visible by Google for your viewing pleasure.

I think this guy was the first

http://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=39149

[zorgon]

Different areas, different coordinates. In the image below, the red marker shows the place of the "winged planet", the green marker the place of the missing area.



I think you should think before talking about misleading coordinates.

Yup I checked  get the same results 

Two things,,,  that green pin... is that not the area were Betelgeuse is? The star about to go super nova? Not sure have not checked yet...

The other thing... now that we KNOW the right coordinates can we find the original photo and find out what itt is SUPPOSED to be? (apologies if you already posted that)

I think it is more useful to identify it. If it is that Cannibal Star from 2007 then all this is "Much Ado About Nothing" ~ Sir Francis Bacon