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Started by astr0144, June 21, 2015, 06:07:11 AM

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thorfourwinds

Greetings:

Here's an idea.

astr0144 has a goldmine within reach and may not be interested in the selling aspect.

astr0144 acts as a 'finder' and puts together a shipment and we facilitate the transport (in the old days, it was MACHOP "for a favor"; perhaps spacemaverick has an update and can help here) to CONUS and Zorgon sells it and everyone gets their fair share.

It would seem that bulk shipment from the UK - like a container - would make it a worthwhile investment, as opposed to acquiring the items and warehousing them in the UK.

Whatever, let's do something with Zorgon's great ideas!



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astr0144






Hi Thor,

I await with curiosity with further details and possible further comments to try to understand more.

A few things have been discussed in this and other threads that I do believe could be very valuable if done in the right way if that is what "Z" and the Interested members of PRC considered them.

I think as a Group.. it may be possible to make some interesting things happen..


QuoteHere's an idea.

astr0144 has a goldmine within reach and may not be interested in the selling aspect.

astr0144 acts as a 'finder' and puts together a shipment and we facilitate the transport (in the old days, it was MACHOP "for a favor"; perhaps spacemaverick has an update and can help here) to CONUS and Zorgon sells it and everyone gets their fair share.

zorgon

"Fixer upper" is a house that is run down, some damage... but still livable

Took me a minute to figure out what a tip was :P

Yeah Toronto tried to do that  make it illegal to scrounge trash from the curb... didn't last long though becaues people raised a big stink... how stupid is it to send stuff to an over full land fill if someone can use it?

They just don't want you making free money :P

What is odd though is in the UK if you find treasure, you get to keep it all

Weird rules   Oh well I tried :P

As for Ebay school... no I learned the hard way :P  but they do have a book.... and the internet is a great tool to research what has value

But yeah I don't know what things are like on that Island  Pity you can't just pack a bag in fly out

Pimander

Quote from: Sinny on June 23, 2015, 02:38:35 AM
So in my case, time is more valuable than money...
A woman after my own heart.  I live by that maxim.  ;)

I have walked away from a number of well paid jobs for a either ethical reasons or the one you give above.  I tried to explain to my old boss when he tried to persuade me to stay that no amount of money can buy the most precious thing of all back.  That thing is time.

I have a secret that would so surprise you if we ever meet. ;)

Sinny

Quote from: Pimander on June 23, 2015, 12:50:43 PM
A woman after my own heart.  I live by that maxim.  ;)

I have walked away from a number of well paid jobs for a either ethical reasons or the one you give above.  I tried to explain to my old boss when he tried to persuade me to stay that no amount of money can buy the most precious thing of all back.  That thing is time.

I have a secret that would so surprise you if we ever meet. ;)

Your just full of secrets Pi ;) haha.

I look forward to finding out, and no doubt we'll meet up soon, perhaps before the year is out..

Aye Astro, all I know is that I do not know... Oh the mysteries of life eh.
A saint is a sinner who keeps on tryin  :P
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

astr0144


Yes, with the Tips or maybe I should have said Rubbish tip (A term from the old days) or now maybe its more  modern Environmental term is
Recycling centre. It does seem quite disturbing to me at times when I go to one just how much really good looking stuff is being destroyed..

We do have quite a few charity shops.. but it seems more potential things that could go to these shops just gets taken to the Tips instead and wasted.

Its good how they have arranged the recycle centres if it really is helping the environment..as it does get certain items sorted to some degree.

There is things or areas like for Electrical Items OLD TVs and Computers etc where I am sure many are just being replaced by updated ones and may work perfectly well.. IF they go to scrap.. they say some of the various metals may get separated and recycled.. That maybe a good thing.

But I am sure many a TV or computer could be reused and the items do not get checked to see if they are in working order..which may be a shame.

But also you may be right.. it may be yet another way to keep people down from making money with them if they were to obtain and sell them.

Another thing they have started doing is coming around in a van doing free collections of electrical goods.. arranged I think by the councils..

its a bit like the old rag and bone without the Horse and carriage... that used to collect all sort of items from the public.. I suspect the authorities put a ban on them.. now they oly collect electric items free.. you have to pay to have collection on other items.

QuoteThey just don't want you making free money :P

What is odd though is in the UK if you find treasure, you get to keep it all

Weird rules   Oh well I tried :P


There were some seminars in the UK that were on Ebay a year or two ago.. initially it seemed good.. maybe it was ... but there later were concerns that the people selling some of the ideas were misleading or ripping clients off..

There were certain things taught that seemed good along with special software that they were selling... to help in the listings. presentation and photo layouts etc.

Its great if you can find the items that will really sell.. but chances are they only sell for so long and then you have to find new things that are in demand..
There are methods to try to determine that.. but it can be quite a lot of work and demanding of ones time... does seem any easy given items that will sell day after day and make one a fortune that they will give away as they are the ones with such secrets.

You used to be able to sell info products on ebay like ebook and cds etc.. but they put a stop to it.

There are some ways around it.. but it my take longer to get it to work compared to how it once did.

QuoteAs for Ebay school... no I learned the hard way :P  but they do have a book.... and the internet is a great tool to research what has value

I am sure many do just arrive on a one way ticket and are never seen again..probably 1000s..
I suspect that just have to have ways of not easily being identified if they have not gone thru the right procedures.

Its just these days with security being much tighter.. it may be something that they can track you down.

If one tried to get a Job in the USA from the UK.. unless one knows have to trick the system.. They may soon be caught out and either arrested or sent back !

if one could make there living without a proper job however... they could probably get by quite well.

It would be interesting to know how best to go about such a thing or what the issues would be and consequences should it not go to plan.

Its like the benefits system in the Uk and the many immigrants that are fleeing to the UK and europe.

Many don't really know how best  to go about it, but others are well informed prior.and many do manage to succeed..

I suppose when one is in such a situation and maybe it could happen to any of us..who knows what the future may hold... then one may question who has the right to say who lives in such a country !

QuoteBut yeah I don't know what things are like on that Island  Pity you can't just pack a bag in fly out

astr0144

#36
Must be nice to be in such demand ! and know your worth so much to them. or have what is wanted and the abilities to obtain the well paid jobs. as well as be in a position or to think that time may be more important than money.

That what Matrix preaches and I am sure most of us would like to be in that position.

But unfortunately for many.. they seem to have to work if they want a certain std of life ...


QuoteI have walked away from a number of well paid jobs for a either ethical reasons or the one you give above.  I tried to explain to my old boss when he tried to persuade me to stay that no amount of money can buy the most precious thing of all back.  That thing is time.

I am sure  you can find some solution.

If you do manage to find something good and don't mind sharing an idea or two..it may be appreciated.

Many are still searching for a better way no matter how long they have lived.

QuoteAye Astro, all I know is that I do not know... Oh the mysteries of life eh.
A saint is a sinner who keeps on tryin  :P

astr0144

#37
Not sure what happened..I thought that I was amending and adding to the similar earlier prior post 35...but somehow it has posted this as a 2nd post.

I can see that I was no longer able to amend the earlier one..as if I could, I would delete this one and just amend the prior one.

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Yes, with the Tips or maybe I should have said Rubbish tip (A term from the old days) or now maybe its more  modern Environmental term is
Recycling centre. It does seem quite disturbing to me at times when I go to one just how much really good looking stuff is being destroyed..

We do have quite a few charity shops.. but it seems more potential things that could go to these shops just gets taken to the Tips instead and wasted.

Its good how they have arranged the recycle centres if it really is helping the environment..as it does get certain items sorted to some degree.

There is things or areas like for Electrical Items OLD TVs and Computers etc where I am sure many are just being replaced by updated ones and may work perfectly well.. IF they go to scrap.. they say some of the various metals may get separated and recycled.. That maybe a good thing.

But I am sure many a TV or computer could be reused and the items do not get checked to see if they are in working order..which may be a shame.

But also you may be right.. it may be yet another way to keep people down from making money with them if they were to obtain and sell them.

Another thing they have started doing is coming around in a van doing free collections of electrical goods.. arranged I think by the councils..

its a bit like the old rag and bone without the Horse and carriage... that used to collect all sort of items from the public.. I suspect the authorities put a ban on them.. now they oly collect electric items free.. you have to pay to have collection on other items.

QuoteThey just don't want you making free money :P

What is odd though is in the UK if you find treasure, you get to keep it all

Weird rules   Oh well I tried :P


There were some seminars in the UK that were on Ebay a year or two ago.. initially it seemed good.. maybe it was ... but there later were concerns that the people selling some of the ideas were misleading or ripping clients off..

There were certain things taught that seemed good along with special software that they were selling... to help in the listings. presentation and photo layouts etc.

Its great if you can find the items that will really sell.. but chances are they only sell for so long and then you have to find new things that are in demand..
There are methods to try to determine that.. but it can be quite a lot of work and demanding of ones time... does seem any easy given items that will sell day after day and make one a fortune that they will give away as they are the ones with such secrets.

You used to be able to sell info products on ebay like ebook and cds etc.. but they put a stop to it.

There are some ways around it.. but it my take longer to get it to work compared to how it once did.

QuoteAs for Ebay school... no I learned the hard way :P  but they do have a book.... and the internet is a great tool to research what has value

I am sure many do just arrive on a one way ticket and are never seen again..probably 1000s..
I suspect that just have to have ways of not easily being identified if they have not gone thru the right procedures.

Its just these days with security being much tighter.. it may be something that they can track you down.

If one tried to get a Job in the USA from the UK.. unless one knows have to trick the system.. They may soon be caught out and either arrested or sent back !

if one could make there living without a proper job however... they could probably get by quite well.

It would be interesting to know how best to go about such a thing or what the issues would be and consequences should it not go to plan.

Its like the benefits system in the Uk and the many immigrants that are fleeing to the UK and europe.

Many don't really know how best  to go about it, but others are well informed prior.and many do manage to succeed..

I suppose when one is in such a situation and maybe it could happen to any of us..who knows what the future may hold... then one may question who has the right to say who lives in such a country !

There was a Strike at Calais in France by staff working for the Channel Tunnel yesterday and on the News it said Many Migrants may well have been able to take advantage of it...

It is no doubt getting quite concerning for those who believe it to be issues for these European countries.

These guys do not even have a one way ticket..but it wont stop some making a new life in a new country  ???

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/migrants-try-advantage-calais-strike-133040339.html#Z36TXxM


QuoteBut yeah I don't know what things are like on that Island  Pity you can't just pack a bag in fly out

astr0144

Could you live tiny? Here's how one couple found room for their dreams.

This shows how one can get by even in something like a converted shed that cost them $500. :-\


Our boots sloshed around in the mud. It was a dreary Pacific Northwest day filled with slate-colored clouds and the feeling it could downpour any minute.

After several "pardon mes" and "coming throughs," we got the tripod inside and forgot about the looming storm. We settled into a world of nooks and crannies, warm blankets — and the smell of chocolate.

It's what you do when you live in a tiny home. You get cozy. And you make brownies on a rainy day.

Tina, the tiny home



Leah Wymer and Brady Ryan's house-on-wheels wasn't some big, planned project. Wymer's dad, a carpenter, thought it would be fun, so they bought a used trailer off Craigslist for $500 and started building.

Two years later, the tiny home named Tina developed into "this huge thing." Not a huge footprint — she's only 98 square feet — but a huge, move-to-the-island and start-your-own-business thing.

Redefining happiness

From an apartment in Seattle, where they paid about $1,400 a month, Wymer and Ryan moved to a family farm on San Juan Island. They traded in a closet full of shoes for a pair of work boots and a house smaller than most people's garage.



Ryan insists they aren't "hardcore tiny homies" because his parents' house is nearby. But for many owners of tiny homes it isn't about escaping normal life or community, anyway.

"We've had many times where we'll sleep upstairs and then our friends, usually a couple, will sleep down here on the pull-out and it's like a sleepover," Ryan says. "I love sleepovers. I'm still a little kid at heart."



Wymer says it instantly brings you closer because your proximity is so close, but she's the first to admit living "tiny" isn't for everyone.

"If you leave your laundry on the ground, it's in the kitchen," she says. "Everything kind of overlaps a little bit."

But if you don't mind things — and people — overlapping, making do with less can be life-changing.

"Things don't bring you happiness," Wymer says. "Our lifestyle brings us happiness."

The cog in the wheel

It's not easy making money on an island. Wymer has her own wedding-flower business, and Ryan keeps busy making honey and sea salt.

"The tiny home is like the cog in the wheel that allows the whole thing to spin," Ryan says. Not only are the couple's living costs reduced significantly, but they're able to do what they love most right in their backyard.

"There have been a lot of times where I wonder if I'm dreaming, really, because of the beauty that is all around us," Wymer says. "I love when it gets later in the season, and the grass comes up to your waist. ...There is nothing like walking out there and brushing your hands against it."

https://homes.yahoo.com/news/could-you-live-tiny--here-s-how-one-couple-found-room-for-their-dreams-173132724.html

Quote"Fixer upper" is a house that is run down, some damage... but still livable


Or Maybe Consider moving to Sicily near Italy for a Free House !

A town in Italy is giving away free homes — under one condition

Want a free house?

The Sicilian town of Gangi, tucked away in the central part of the country, needs newcomers to replace its vanishing populace.

So the local government has decided to offer up vacant homes to businesses that want to spruce up the area with hotels and individuals looking for a European fixer-upper.

In a 102-word release, Gangi — local population: 7,000 — curtly explained the terms of the deal.

"Those who will be assigned the free houses have to bear the expenses for the transfer of ownership," the release explains.

In other words, it's your problem now.

The formal requirements stipulate that new owners must present a plan for renovation within one year of purchase and complete those renovations within three years.

The fixes won't be quick. Many of the Gangi homes are dilapidated, not having seen any human attention in decades.

Still, international attention has been arriving faster than the government can give the houses away.

Some of the abodes have already been bestowed to Sicilians in search of second homes and foreigners looking to add to their collection. There are 200 houses left and a waiting list that isn't getting any shorter.

Gangi's decision to surrender its homes comes after several decades of people uprooting their lives in Sicily to live out American dreams and, later, South American Dreams, Marcello Saija, the director of a network of emigration museums in Sicily, told The New York Times.

Between 1892 and 1924, roughly 1,700 immigrants from Gangi landed in Ellis Island. By the 1930s and 40s, New York had been usurped by Argentina as the hot spot for a new life.

With increasing buzz for the houses, City Hall has the luxury of being selective. If you're looking for a summer home, you might be out of luck.

"We don't want people just because they have money," Gangi mayor Giuseppe Ferrarello told the Times, adding that preference will be given to applicants whose goal is to improve not just a house, but Gangi as a whole.

The city isn't the first to employ the new strategy. Stateside, small towns like Gary, Indiana and larger cities like Indianapolis and Detroit have put their displaced homes up for cheap, either giving them away for $1 or offering them outright.



http://uk.businessinsider.com/town-in-sicily-giving-away-free-houses-2015-6

astr0144

#39
I mentioned my thoughts about the Stock Market in the 1st post in this thread.

The Dow Jones had just opened over 300 points down at 17625 from Fridays Close which had been 17946 for what is known as the cash market..but it closed higher in the last 15 mins of the futures Market at 17970 ish.

I have not seen anything like this for some years.

A financial trading Company that I know are presently charging 7 times more to allow anyone to trade the Dow Jones at the Moment than would be the Norm...

This is a sign of EXTREME Volitility...

I have NEVER seen anything this extreme  even as far back as  the 2000 crash and 2007 crash....

They are saying its due to the uncertainty with Greece. and are saying there could be huge movements in the market.

Crashes do not normally happen at this time of the year.. they usually occur  between  Late August September and October.... such as the 1929 , 1987 , and 2007 crash.  and although the 2000 crash started between January and March .. the big decline started in September.

I just have never seen such overcharging in the markets that occur during high uncertain volitile times....

I thought we may see a rally from today into the July 4th Holiday  Period .. but with the volitilty being this high may see a huge decline..


QuoteMy thoughts on a possible Market crash for this year  based upon my own Stock market Cycle timing analysis...This is based upon the Dow Jones Index.

With the Dow making recent highs last week.
I think its possible we may have another high made this week...and the start of a decline from between 22nd June this week to end of the Month...
maybe down to between July 4th to 9th.

astr0144

 What to watch out for if Greece leaves the euro.

This is a report wrote by one of the Companies financial analysts..


The eurozone crisis has bubbled away in the background for five years now, with the Greek situation steadily declining amid the ever-looming prospect of the nation leaving the currency union. Traders need to be wary that a Greek exit could have an enormous impact on the financial markets and many different asset classes.

To a large degree we're in uncharted territory here. The very fact that no country has ever left the union means there's no blueprint for Greece's departure; neither in terms of the political process, nor the financial ramifications.

While Greece accounts for less than two percent of the eurozone's GDP, there are some compelling reasons for keeping it within the fold. Not least to save face and retain some unity among fellow members. If the indebted nation makes a break for it, could other struggling countries like Spain, Portugal or Ireland follow them? One clear advantage of Greece staying for the rest of the member states is that it keeps the currency artificially low.

Orderly vs disorderly exit

It is not just a question of whether Greece leaves the euro, but also how it is handled. An unexpected and sudden announcement that Athens is going it alone would send shockwaves through the eurozone and further afield. And that's precisely why it is not likely to be conducted in that manner. This style of Greek exit would lead to low risking taking by traders, and assets that are perceived to be safe would be in demand.

If Greece leaves the currency union in a controlled and orderly fashion, the market would experience a jump in volatility at the very mention of it, and dealers would initially take a low risk stance. But if the move is drawn out over a number of months (and it is clear that only Greece will be leaving the eurozone) confidence will return in the medium to long term, with traders taking on more risk as the dust settles.

The euro

There is no doubt the single currency itself has taken a hammering since the Greek debt crisis began. The euro has come under pressure repeatedly during the various Greek bailouts and when other countries had to be rescued during the sovereign debt crisis. But while other bailed-out nations got on with imposing austerity measures and restoring some confidence, the dire Greek situation kept holding the euro back.

How the currency reacts to a Greek exit all depends on the handling of the ordeal. The initial fear would be that this could be the end of the currency union, and panic selling could ensue. However, if the European Central Bank manages to reassure investors that Greece is the only country exiting the currency area, the euro could push higher as it will no longer have the weight of the Greek problem pulling it down.

There will be external pressures as well. The US hasn't ruled out an interest rate hike this year, and that will put EUR/USD in the spotlight. The Bank of England is also looking to raise interest rates next year, followed by a likely jump in trading volumes for EUR/GBP. Wary traders will need to keep an eye on EUR/JPY as well. Although the yen is seen as less of a threat to the euro even with a Grexit, set against the bigger quantitative easing battle between the Bank of Japan and the ECB.

Indices

If Greece were to leave the eurozone it would be like a financial earthquake for stock markets, with those closest to the epicentre suffering the most, but further afield none would fully escape the effects. The eurozone equity markets have benefitted greatly from the ECB's QE policies, and the decline from the May highs would be significantly accelerated should Greece decide to leave. The ramifications would ripple through Europe, across the Atlantic and on to the Far East. Dealers have a way of selecting the wheat from the chaff, and some equity markets will fall more than others. The core eurozone markets like the Germany 30 and the France 40 will be hit first. The UK may not be in the currency bloc, but it is its biggest trading partner, and in turn the FTSE 100 will also feel the ripples of a Greek exit.

Banks

As the Greek debt crisis has been chugging along for five years, banks in the eurozone have gradually reduced their direct exposure to Greece's debts. The German financial system alone has €15 billion worth of exposure to Greece, but the majority of that is held by a state controlled bank. Publically-listed firms like Deutsche Bank and Commerzbank have €298 million and €400 million worth of exposure respectively. By the end of 2013, France's BNP Paribas still had €700 million worth of Greek debt on its books. Credit Agricole has the same level of exposure.

However, the sector might not be quite out of the trees just yet, particularly if we see a disorderly exit. If confidence in the region's banking system is falling, all the finances houses will feel the effects. Funds have been flowing out of Greek banks and the country at a fast rate, and that cash flight will only pick up. Traders would be paranoid about a contagion throughout the eurozone, still fearing what dark asset secrets the banks might have on their books. The credit crunch saw a number of banks go to the wall, and the eurozone debt crisis saw a few countries bailed out. Greece's exit could trigger a similar round.

Gold

The metal is considered to be a safe-haven investment, and during times of uncertainty it's always going to be in demand. The all-time high for gold was reached in 2011, when the eurozone debt crisis drove traders out of the equity markets and into lower-risk assets like cash, high-rated government bonds and gold. When the US lost its triple-A credit rating in the summer of 2011, gold was propelled to a record high. Despite gold losing some attractiveness since, a similar historic event is bound to send demand for the metal soaring.

ArMaP

I just saw on Euronews that Greek banks are closed and remain closed until the referendum.

zorgon

Quote from: ArMaP on June 29, 2015, 09:25:07 AM
I just saw on Euronews that Greek banks are closed and remain closed until the referendum.

I hear there were talks of a run on the bank  They don't like that so slam the door shut


ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on June 29, 2015, 09:43:58 AM
I hear there were talks of a run on the bank  They don't like that so slam the door shut
People started to go to the ATMs on Saturday, to take all the money they could, so this reaction was expected.

zorgon

Quote from: astr0144 on June 29, 2015, 03:39:19 AM
Gold

The metal is considered to be a safe-haven investment, and during times of uncertainty it's always going to be in demand. The all-time high for gold was reached in 2011, when the eurozone debt crisis drove traders out of the equity markets and into lower-risk assets like cash, high-rated government bonds and gold. When the US lost its triple-A credit rating in the summer of 2011, gold was propelled to a record high. Despite gold losing some attractiveness since, a similar historic event is bound to send demand for the metal soaring.

I dam well HOPE so LOL  I don't have a lot of gold... mostly old scrap from jewelry making and electronic scrap...

But I held on to it because the 'experts' said it would go higher..  NEVER listen to the 'experts' :P They KNOW NOTHING

::)

Gold hit close to $1890.00


and Silver at almost $50.00




I missed the boat  because today gold and sliver have been steadily declining 

Gold  $1,177.42

Silver $15.73


http://goldprice.org/

That is quite a loss  so I will just have to wait and hope it goes up again. At least by next time I will have the gold and silver in refined form :D