The Lazar Report by Michael Schratt May 4, 2015

[bigpappy51]

Bob's claim his job and education history was erased.

It has been proven Bob DID work where he said he did, despite official denials from the company.

Score one for proof of job history being erased.

His job there was operating a behemoth multi million dollar particle accelerator.

Are they going to let a janitor with no educational degrees at the controls of this thing? 

Score another one for proof of his educational background.

So occasionally we DO get a peek behind the official curtain of denial.

All Bob Lazar has to do is get on faceBook and find his classmates from CalTech and MIT. I had no problems finding his graduation class and there 2016 reunion with ease.

Why doesn't Lazar do this because his education credentials are false a far as MIT and CalTech more to come about MIT hopefully this week. I think Bob rebuilt Alpha Probes for Los Alamos thru Kirk Mayer nothing more. If he was such a brilliant physicist hy did he quit Los Alamos to become a photo processor in Vegas among with another profession i wont say on here. Why leve Los Alamos ??

There is no doubt that if he worked in the facility it was through Kirk Mayer here's a job clipping from Kirk Meyer same time frame read very carefully the first job is an Electronics Technician.



And as far as Michael Schratt goes he doesn't believe Lazar at all after Corbells movie it became worse he has some documents that are beyond interesting that will be posted one day that are from John Andrews.

BigPappy51

[bigpappy51]

The dangers of Papoose Dry Lake bed the alleged home of S-4 The following was written and researched by Peter Merlin he talks about the differences in amounts of Plutonium at Groom Lake and Papoose Lake. Papoose ha never been cleaned up there were plans to have Papoose cleaned up by 1992 it never took place.

Area 13 This map shows the location of the Project 57 site in Area 13 and its relation to Area 51. The groom lake airbase is shown much as it appears today. The first challenge of Project 57 was to select a test site. A lengthy discussion at the first project meeting focused on a choice between "Papoose Lake with adjoining valleys and the Groom Lake Valley lying due north of it," both outside the Nevada Test Site. Both sites were considered equal from an operational viewpoint, but the decision was ultimately based on soil contamination levels from previous testing. Samples taken by K. H. Larson of the University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA) indicated that "in the first inch of cover, maximum plutonium backgrounds differed by a factor of 60." Soil in the Groom Lake area contained a maximum of 0.5-micrograms of plutonium per- square-meter versus 30-micrograms per-square-meter around Papoose Lake. After reviewing these results, according to the minutes of the first meeting, "the choice of Groom Lake Valley went uncontested." The Project 57 test site was added to the NTS as Area 13, an approximately 10-by-16-mile block of land abutting the northeast boundary of the Test Site, and partially overlapping the Watertown facility. The overlap area was not considered part of Area 13. Ground Zero for the shot was only five miles northwest of Groom Lake and seven miles from the main cantonment area of the airbase. Personnel approaching the site from the NTS would drive over Groom Pass from Yucca Flat, then head north on Valley Road for about eight miles to reach the turnoff for Ground Zero. A formerly secret AEC report dated 14 March 1957 described the new test area, stating that it, "is not contaminated to a degree that would effect the experiment, and, when contaminated, will not interfere with the conduct of the PLUMBBOB nuclear tests which are scheduled to begin in May 1957. The Armed Forces Special Weapons Project has obtained approval for the use of the land for the test." An appendix to the report contained a letter to Brigadier General Alfred D. Starbird from Maj. Gen. Alvin R. Luedecke, USAF, Chief of the AFSWP, further explained that "entry into the
31. area has also been approved and has been coordinated with the agency which has been using the Range." The XW-25 warhead was flown to the airstrip at Yucca Flat, then trucked to Watertown. It was stored in Building 10 prior to being moved to Area 13 for final placement. The Project 57 shot was originally scheduled for early April, but was pushed back several times. Personnel at Watertown were undoubtedly evacuated before the shot in case of unfavorable winds that could spread plutonium over the airbase, or an unexpected nuclear yield. Evacuation must have been terribly inconvenient to flight test and training operations at Watertown. According to declassified documents, most of the delays were due to unfavorable weather conditions. Finally, on the morning of 24 April, the signal was sent to the detonator, and the warhead's high explosive charge destroyed the weapon. Although there had been no obvious atomic explosion, a three-man team in protective clothing was dispatched to determine whether or not any beta or gamma radiation hazard existed from a partial nuclear yield. There was none, but all personnel entering the area were required to wear full protective suits and respirators to shield themselves from alpha radiation emitted by plutonium. Plutonium hazards This Russian satellite image shows Area 51 and Area 13. Groom Lake is about three miles long from north to south. Ground Zero for the Project 57 plutonium dispersal test was located five miles northwest of the edge of Groom Lake. Several isotopes of plutonium (Pu) are typically found at safety experiment sites: Pu-238 (with a half-life of 89 years), Pu-239 (24,300 years), Pu-240 (6,600 years), and Pu-241 (14 years). Pu-239 is the most abundant. The decay of Pu-241 produces an americium isotope, Am-241, which emits gamma rays and has a half-life of 432 years. Radiation Safety (Rad-Safe) technicians measure gamma emissions from Am-241 with a device called a FIDLER (Field Instrument for the Determination of Low-Energy Radiation). Am-241 activity in contaminated soil provides a reasonable indication of Pu-239/240 levels. Plutonium emits alpha particles, the weakest form of radiation. A sheet of paper is sufficient shielding against alpha radiation. Although alpha particles are highly energetic, they are not

Breathing in plutonium on Papoose Dry lake is more then likely what killed Jerry Freeman . After all he spent 2 days and nights there going over every inch of the dry Lake bed and hillsides and found an Ox shoe  in search of the lost 49ers in the 90s. There i an entire roll of film floating around with nothing but photos of Papoose Lake how amazing some of these photos are.

S-4 should be right behind Jerrys head I see nothing and I have looked very hard not many seem to care this is evidence of no Base no hangers no security no vehicles nothing

[A51Watcher]

The dangers of Papoose Dry Lake bed the alleged home of S-4 The following was written and researched by Peter Merlin he talks about the differences in amounts of Plutonium at Groom Lake and Papoose Lake. Papoose ha never been cleaned up there were plans to have Papoose cleaned up by 1992 it never took place.

Area 13 This map shows the location of the Project 57 site in Area 13 and its relation to Area 51. The groom lake airbase is shown much as it appears today. The first challenge of Project 57 was to select a test site. A lengthy discussion at the first project meeting focused on a choice between "Papoose Lake with adjoining valleys and the Groom Lake Valley lying due north of it," both outside the Nevada Test Site. Both sites were considered equal from an operational viewpoint, but the decision was ultimately based on soil contamination levels from previous testing. Samples taken by K. H. Larson of the University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA) indicated that "in the first inch of cover, maximum plutonium backgrounds differed by a factor of 60." Soil in the Groom Lake area contained a maximum of 0.5-micrograms of plutonium per- square-meter versus 30-micrograms per-square-meter around Papoose Lake. After reviewing these results, according to the minutes of the first meeting, "the choice of Groom Lake Valley went uncontested." The Project 57 test site was added to the NTS as Area 13, an approximately 10-by-16-mile block of land abutting the northeast boundary of the Test Site, and partially overlapping the Watertown facility. The overlap area was not considered part of Area 13. Ground Zero for the shot was only five miles northwest of Groom Lake and seven miles from the main cantonment area of the airbase. Personnel approaching the site from the NTS would drive over Groom Pass from Yucca Flat, then head north on Valley Road for about eight miles to reach the turnoff for Ground Zero. A formerly secret AEC report dated 14 March 1957 described the new test area, stating that it, "is not contaminated to a degree that would effect the experiment, and, when contaminated, will not interfere with the conduct of the PLUMBBOB nuclear tests which are scheduled to begin in May 1957. The Armed Forces Special Weapons Project has obtained approval for the use of the land for the test." An appendix to the report contained a letter to Brigadier General Alfred D. Starbird from Maj. Gen. Alvin R. Luedecke, USAF, Chief of the AFSWP, further explained that "entry into the
31. area has also been approved and has been coordinated with the agency which has been using the Range." The XW-25 warhead was flown to the airstrip at Yucca Flat, then trucked to Watertown. It was stored in Building 10 prior to being moved to Area 13 for final placement. The Project 57 shot was originally scheduled for early April, but was pushed back several times. Personnel at Watertown were undoubtedly evacuated before the shot in case of unfavorable winds that could spread plutonium over the airbase, or an unexpected nuclear yield. Evacuation must have been terribly inconvenient to flight test and training operations at Watertown. According to declassified documents, most of the delays were due to unfavorable weather conditions. Finally, on the morning of 24 April, the signal was sent to the detonator, and the warhead's high explosive charge destroyed the weapon. Although there had been no obvious atomic explosion, a three-man team in protective clothing was dispatched to determine whether or not any beta or gamma radiation hazard existed from a partial nuclear yield. There was none, but all personnel entering the area were required to wear full protective suits and respirators to shield themselves from alpha radiation emitted by plutonium. Plutonium hazards This Russian satellite image shows Area 51 and Area 13. Groom Lake is about three miles long from north to south. Ground Zero for the Project 57 plutonium dispersal test was located five miles northwest of the edge of Groom Lake. Several isotopes of plutonium (Pu) are typically found at safety experiment sites: Pu-238 (with a half-life of 89 years), Pu-239 (24,300 years), Pu-240 (6,600 years), and Pu-241 (14 years). Pu-239 is the most abundant. The decay of Pu-241 produces an americium isotope, Am-241, which emits gamma rays and has a half-life of 432 years. Radiation Safety (Rad-Safe) technicians measure gamma emissions from Am-241 with a device called a FIDLER (Field Instrument for the Determination of Low-Energy Radiation). Am-241 activity in contaminated soil provides a reasonable indication of Pu-239/240 levels. Plutonium emits alpha particles, the weakest form of radiation. A sheet of paper is sufficient shielding against alpha radiation. Although alpha particles are highly energetic, they are not

Breathing in plutonium on Papoose Dry lake is more then likely what killed Jerry Freeman . After all he spent 2 days and nights there going over every inch of the dry Lake bed and hillsides and found an Ox shoe  in search of the lost 49ers in the 90s. There i an entire roll of film floating around with nothing but photos of Papoose Lake how amazing some of these photos are.

S-4 should be right behind Jerrys head I see nothing and I have looked very hard not many seem to care this is evidence of no Base no hangers no security no vehicles nothing

Since you are now aware of what I saw at Area 51, you must realize that the Michael Schratt report is meaningless to me. Or anybody else's 'report' for that matter.

For every question he raises, you have to realize there is always an alternative answer.

I have personally seen these craft that defy all laws of physics, as you have seen.

So what use would any of these 'reports' be to me? I am already WAY ahead of the questions these guys are trying to answer. I already KNOW the answer.

Bob Lazar was telling the truth. I have seen it with my own eyes.

[astr0144]

I have a fair bit to catch up on...  but

I seen one of the UFO type documentaries... that I cannot recall the name of it at the moment... that showed someone at what was described as Plutonium Alley or something similar... that If I recall had either Joerg or Peter Merlin or someone from a similar type of group...that was some vantage point around Area 51 that the public could visit if they new were it was located..

They did suggest there were still plutonium readings being detected in that area.

so just how cantaminated it really is even still on the outer bounds surrounding Area 51 seems still hard to say.. even though I know we tried to research more into it some time ago...

BUT  why would they risk going to that area if they still detect plutonium radiation readings...

Ok the readings wont be anywhere near as high as some years ago.. during the nuke tests etc... but they seem to acknowledge its still a danger..

and this is not inside Area 51 or at Papoose Lake... and is classed as public land.

[bigpappy51]

Since you are now aware of what I saw at Area 51, you must realize that the Michael Schratt report is meaningless to me. Or anybody else's 'report' for that matter.

For every question he raises, you have to realize there is always an alternative answer.

I have personally seen these craft that defy all laws of physics, as you have seen.

So what use would any of these 'reports' be to me? I am already WAY ahead of the questions these guys are trying to answer. I already KNOW the answer.

Bob Lazar was telling the truth. I have seen it with my own eyes.

I know you and a number of others who seen craft out there that allegedly defy physics as el think physics is today. But certainly breakthroughs in science, propulsion, gravity manipulation, have been made long ago. With that said I would like to ask you how do you know beyond any doubt that the craft pictured below known as The Sport Model is the exact craft you had seen ?



So what i'm saying here is you cant say with absolute certainty that what you saw as the same exact craft Bob Lazar spoke of The port Model I see a ball of light bouncing around e cant be sure its an actual physical object could be a project blue beam type of projection is my point. Going by Bobs statements there is no way possible that a man was inside this cramped area flying a craft around doing these maneuvers in a craft that didn't as much as have a switch or wire in the craft.

The Wave Guides as Bob calls them would have to be it total control to make the maneuvers that craft made and what a gamble doing it right there around all those mountains?

A modern day Drone show which can be widely seen online sometimes they will use 100 drones at a time would had looked completely alien 35  or 30 years ago as well as they seem to look today.

So I completely disagree that investigating Bobs claims doesn't matter we have been told over and over now that his so called degrees didn't matter well certainly they did to be a Senior Staff physicist on this project absolutely they mattered how else would he had been qualified to be at that location ? Ad according to Bobs own transcripts he spent a total of 6 days at S4 a place that all evidence that we can see that the installation does not exist at Papoose.

Am I open to believing that maybe the installation exists at another place sure. Am I open to believing he made the craft look just like The Meier craft I guess but what would the reason be ?? I have one theory but I don't think it matters.

BigPappy51

[WhatTheHey]

Since you are now aware of what I saw at Area 51, you must realize that the Michael Schratt report is meaningless to me.

Howdy Bigpappy51, I too have seen craft at area 51 and I was wondering what you saw? I have been there several times and seen things that are unconventional 3

times.  The most amazing sighting we had (I was not alone) was an amber colored craft.  Bright amber colored light coming from it as it flew a zigzag pattern up and out

of the area.

WhatTheHey

[bigpappy51]

At about 4:10 of the following video Luis Elizondo on CNN says that "aircraft " seen and scientifically studied are no in the current US Inventory or other govt inventories. So the issue is Lou Elizondo telling the truth ?



I would think the first person they looked into was Bob and I have been told he doesn't believe Bobs story . Any comment when it comes to AATIP or Elizondo in specific Area51Watcher ? My feeling is the video they how known as video 3 is not an alien spaceship flying over the ocean known as The Tic Tac craft and Commander David Fravor stated we will never see the HD version of that video.

My personal belief is we are seeing an Anti Ship missile nothing more thats why its flying so low to the ocean and that is why we will never see the HD version of the video. Why haven't they released the video f multiple Tic Tac craft coming out of the water and flying from sea level to 60,000 feet in a matter of seconds? Just some questions I would be interested in hearing hat people have to say . If there's a thread I could be pointed to would like to have a look.

Anti Ship Missile watch the portion as its over the water:



BigPappy51

[bigpappy51]

Howdy Bigpappy51, I too have seen craft at area 51 and I was wondering what you saw? I have been there several times and seen things that are unconventional 3

times.  The most amazing sighting we had (I was not alone) was an amber colored craft.  Bright amber colored light coming from it as it flew a zigzag pattern up and out

of the area.

WhatTheHey

I haven't seen anything at Area51 And I have zero doubts that you and others have seen lights zig zagging across the sky the question is was this hardware or a holographic projection ? Is hat you sa the exact craft that Bob shows as The Sport Model that is an identical craft to Billy Meiers so called Beam SHips that have been in his books and videos since the 70s?

There's no proof at all that what you guys had seen was the Sport Model is what my point is At best you guys would had been where Camp Fire Hill filming these craft if they are over papoose or Area51 you are miles away from the craft. I think the Govt has gravity manipulation ben Rich statements alone before his death stated that "We have the technology to take ET home"

The only proof I have ever seen that Bob was at Area51 was when he was outside the borders with Lear and Huff. The radiation contamination of Papoose makes it off limits for anything until its cleaned up and those documents were out years beforee Bobs story came out they  were going to try to have Papoose cleaned up by 1992 and I guess the time and cost was too much.

I have seen videos from Norio Hayakawa that were interesting and others but the video that Huff and Lazar show there's a major problem with the video and I can show what it is and I cant believe others have not picked up on this problem well actually I can. There was a deliberate attempt at deception with the famous video that Huff Lazar and Lear are present.

BigPappy51

[The Seeker]

I have been there several times...

WTH, don't violate any NDA's, oaths, or clearances,but we would like to hear about your visits to A51 if you can speak of them 

Seeker

[fansongecho]

Hi BigPappy, 

I am almost certain that it isn't a anti-ship missile in any of the 3 videos' released by the DOD -

https://coi.tothestarsacademy.com/2015-go-fast-footage/2018/3/9/2015-go-fast-footage

In the 3rd Video "Go Fast" there isn't evidence of a heat signature from the rear of the object and in the other video's there doesn't appear to be evidence of heat signatures either.

https://coi.tothestarsacademy.com/gimbal


https://coi.tothestarsacademy.com/2004-nimitz-flir1-video

In the above video's the F/A 18 Super Hornets are all around 20,000 - 25,000 Feet altitude and I believe performing a CAP (Combat Air Patrol) /  Fleet Protection Mission -

On the videos there is an explanation of the various readouts but they don't describe what the "Slave" mode is on the right hand side - Slave mode indicates the Raytheon ATFLIR Sensor is "slaved" to the Super Hornets very powerful AESA AN/APG-79 RADAR (in the nose) and we hear in one of the video's a WSO (weapon system operators) say "look at the ASA" simply meaning that what ever target the RADAR is tracking that data is automatically furnished to the ATFLIR sensor - reducing the WSO workload - why would they slave the ATFLIR to the main RADAR?.. because the RADAR's Acquisition and tracking range & field of view is greater than the ATFLIR POD Camera and IR sensor -100s of miles verses 50 - 60 miles.

The WSO still controls the FLIR/Electro-Optics on the ATFLIR, as we observe a number of times in the videos, when he changes the Zoom control on the Optical Camera and the white - 2 - black display on the FLIR display.

"SNIP"
The Super Hornet is equipped with a Raytheon AN/APG-79 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Radar, which is integrated with the aircraft's AN/ASQ-228 Advanced Targeting Forward Looking Infrared (ATFLIR) targeting pod from Raytheon; the Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System (JHMCS); the Multifunctional Information Distribution System
(MIDS); advanced high capacity computer system; and state-of-the-art cockpit.

Other systems on-board are the Raytheon AN/ALR-67(V)3 digital radar warning receiver (RWR), the BAE Systems/Exelis AN/ALQ-214 Integrated Defensive Countermeasures (IDECM), the BAE Systems AN/ALE-47 countermeasures dispenser, Raytheon AN/ALE-50 towed decoy, and the Rockwell Collins AN/ARC-210 VHF/UHF Airborne Communications System.

More recently, in January 2015, the U.S. Navy approved Lockheed Martin's IRST21 passive long-range sensor system for the F/A-18E/F. IRST21 uses infrared search and track technology to detect and track airborne threats. IRST21 is mounted on the nose section of the center fuel tank.
"SNIP"

- https://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/atflir

- http://www.fi-aeroweb.com/Defense/F-18-Super-Hornet.html

I dont know what the objects where, but I was curious when the WSO stated that the wind was 120Knots (approx 130mph) in one of the videos..  pretty windy! 

Cheers!

Fansongecho 

[WhatTheHey]

Let me just say that some of what flies through the skies at this area are clearly not craft that we have conceived.  The test flying of these craft have been

ongoing for so long, lets hope its not our design.    If it was, its time to scrap it....since it seems we cant fly it worth a dang.  lol Of course it could be there is a reason

for the unusual flight patterns.  Who knows?

   I do not work there, although I could very likely be of some help to them.  lol I'm part alien!  lol  Not!

But I was allowed to play games with the security guys,  like trac-an-tag.  Sort of a hide and seek game with vehicles. It was a bit scary, but they didn't do anything

to me.  They seem to avoid having any direct contact with me even when I'm at the gate.  Yep the front gate!  They flashed there head lights at me when its night.

But they never stopped me for some reason, even when my wife was with me.

   I would consider a holographic projection could be used to make an image in the sky.  However when you can see dust being kicked up and a ground reflection or

illumination.  It makes it harder to consider that its a projection.

  Its such a strange thing the way the military has boggled the information about area 51 and in the proses brought more interest from the very people they sot to

deceive.  Sometimes I wonder if this was done intentionally for some reason.

   Its a fun place to visit but I didn't like staying there.....lol

WhatTheHey

[A51Watcher]

Hey there WhatTheHey,

Don't you just love it when other people try to tell you what you saw? lol

It's the best! 


Thanks for sharing.

[astr0144]

Hi WTH..

Can you give some indication  how long ago or some estimates of the dates when you witnessed some of your sightings ?

Just wondering how the trip dates may have varied...

Were some closer to the late 80s early 90s and were any after year 2000 ?

Let me just say that some of what flies through the skies at this area are clearly not craft that we have conceived.  The test flying of these craft have been

ongoing for so long, lets hope its not our design.    If it was, its time to scrap it....since it seems we cant fly it worth a dang.  lol Of course it could be there is a reason

for the unusual flight patterns.  Who knows?

   I do not work there, although I could very likely be of some help to them.  lol I'm part alien!  lol  Not!

But I was allowed to play games with the security guys,  like trac-an-tag.  Sort of a hide and seek game with vehicles. It was a bit scary, but they didn't do anything

to me.  They seem to avoid having any direct contact with me even when I'm at the gate.  Yep the front gate!  They flashed there head lights at me when its night.

But they never stopped me for some reason, even when my wife was with me.

   I would consider a holographic projection could be used to make an image in the sky.  However when you can see dust being kicked up and a ground reflection or

illumination.  It makes it harder to consider that its a projection.

  Its such a strange thing the way the military has boggled the information about area 51 and in the proses brought more interest from the very people they sot to

deceive.  Sometimes I wonder if this was done intentionally for some reason.

   Its a fun place to visit but I didn't like staying there.....lol

WhatTheHey

[WhatTheHey]

      "Just wondering how the trip dates may have varied...   Were some closer to the late 80s early 90s and were any after year 2000 ?"

   Hmmmm........ it was in the mid to late 90s if I remember right...... Started about 94 or 95 to 2000.

WhatTheHey

[A51Watcher]

So does Michael Schratt have room to be critical of anybody?

What type of info does HE peddle at UFO conferences?

How about the J-rod story from Dan Burisch?

Michael makes a pretty decent living touring the UFO conference circuit pushing the Burisch story -




...who allegedly worked in the underground levels of S-4 and communicated  on a regular basis with an living Alien being.

All without ANY evidence or proof or corroboration.

So THIS guy is believable but Bob Lazar is NOT?? Hilarious! 


Michael also loves to show this animation based completely on Bob's information on S-4's location and layout, yet then totally embellishes it with Burisch's story of lower levels and Aliens.




Sounds like a Psyop misinformation agent and program to me.