BREAKING NEWS - Physicist claims Bob Lazar DID work at Los Alamos As A PHYSICIST

[Sinny]

I know that you have referred to Dr Beter for some time...I have not as yet looked into him in relevant detail to make any judgement. I will try to do so.

That's reason why I haven't shut up about him hahaha.

All these dubious 'whistle blowers' mentioned on this site, there is NOTHING dubious about Dr. Beter XD

[Sinny]

In response to the rest of your post Astro, Dr  ever made NO mention of aliens or entities.  He stuck to verifiable facts only due to his social status... but there is no question that he with held certain information from us, he toed the line with his life and it cost him in the end.

The entities I am referring to specifically are Ra and The Awareness.
I believe there are more to, but I need to double check my facts before laying them down in text.

I am doubtful of ETH but I do believe in EDH.

[astr0144]

On my initial very quick look so far..It seems he wrote or recorded a lot of material on various topics.

Do you recall ones or website links  that may relate more towards the UFO connection...that would save me hours of trying to go thru his material.

This is an above top secret thread on him.

Ever Heard of Dr. Peter Beter? No? Well Here Is Why!! Please Read W/Open Mind.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread717298/pg1

this website goes really deep into the rabbit hole ..

http://www.auricmedia.net/organic-robotoids-are-real-by-dr-peter-beter-clones-and-synthetic-people/

That's reason why I haven't shut up about him hahaha.

All these dubious 'whistle blowers' mentioned on this site, there is NOTHING dubious about Dr. Beter XD

[astr0144]

Its all very disturbing what has happened to some of the researchers and Scientist that we refer to..

So you mainly think that what some may think of as Alien type (Non Earth/ from other parts of the Universe who may visit our planet) ETs as being Inter-dimensional..

and the Ra / awareness maybe connected to this ?

If so is that just the beings or the Craft as well ?

The entities I am referring to specifically are Ra and The Awareness.
I believe there are more to, but I need to double check my facts before laying them down in text.

I am doubtful of ETH but I do believe in EDH.

[A51Watcher]

Yes my mind / memory would be in a very poor state or mind controlled if I did not recall your excellent Image analysis videos..

That strengthened my belief by a large % in Bobs / your story. Until its proven otherwise I believe what you and Bob have described and shown.

I very much look forward to seeing your other videos  if you are good enough to share them !

Although I still suspect some are either still unsure as yet and maybe over time in their further research they MAY get to really appreciate what you have created and shown us...Generally I am not sure that you have been given as much credit as you should have...maybe some people have not as yet clicked or understood the realities or what you have obtained....sometimes people need more time and further repeated reminders to get them to understand things to a relevant  level of appreciation...

or some will  still question or appreciate / understand the consequences of it. no matter how good something maybe..

I am not well enough qualified to attempt to do so..but from what I have seen.. its the best footage I have as yet to come by and so far no one has convinced me not to believe you or Bobs story.

That's good to hear.

As to holograms, I have to agree with Armap. The physical realities of projection preclude that from being the culprit in this case.

[A51Watcher]

Let's not forget Mr. Knapp in all this too. He was pushing Corbell heavily, calling him 'The UFO Road Warrior' and defending him at every turn. I've saved all our convos with Knapp and Corbell from Facebook. The two are tied together. I had Knapp come on John's page to defend his good buddy when I called out Corbell on the release of Immaculate Deception. Hence not a peep outta either one. I thought of Knapp only in terms of the Lazar story, someone reporting on an extraordinary story, but after this experience with Corbell, everything he says is suspect. Including the Lazar story.
IMO

Rock

Sarge - George has been friends with John for a long time, long before Jeremy showed up.

I doubt he has any knowledge of his sketchy actions and would not approve if he found out.

Don't go painting George with the same brush until you get some proof he knows about it.

[zorgon]

Is a Doctorate a PHD ?

Yes

If he did work 14 yrs in the industry... I am not sure why you suggest he had a failed career...

Graduated in 1956  got into UFO's 1958, started full time lecture circuit by 1967

YOU do the math

Was he continually being sacked as he was not upto the required standards ? or was he sacked later on in his career and decided to change to a UFO career ?

Don't know if he was sacked It says all his jobs were cancelled People don't usually list being sacked ina resume

Maybe at the time it seemed a good alternative...
and maybe has been a better choice long term..

Maybe  maybe not... but the money is good> I guess Nuclear Physics is a sad paying Job  I mean look at Bob Lazars paystub 

It is really very simple,,, the ONE REASON that UFO research is NOT being taken seriously is because ALL the whistle blowers, researches,  supposed insiders, charlatans, etc etc all call each other frauds. If they would have all gotten together and pooled resources,, all for one and one for all MAYBE we would get somewhere  But they are all busy touting themselves as being the only truth while calling the other guy frauds and liars.

Says on his bio  "He has provided written testimony to Congressional Hearings," That means Steven Greers "Disclosure Project"  You that is added credibility right there

It is no wonder that real insiders do not come forward other than cryptic hints via private letters. I don't blame them... because if the TRUTH from a real insider flies in the face of the latest popular BELIEF, he will be stoned and ridiculed and called a shill.

The only solution is look three times at EVERYTHING  keep the things that fit and turn up from various sources and shove all the rest in the trash bin. Only when the puzzle pieces fit the big picture do they have value... the rest is fluff and distraction.

And with just a little dogged research, it is easy to tell which puzzle pieces are part of the true picture

[Sinny]

Its all very disturbing what has happened to some of the researchers and Scientist that we refer to..

So you mainly think that what some may think of as Alien type (Non Earth/ from other parts of the Universe who may visit our planet) ETs as being Inter-dimensional..

and the Ra / awareness maybe connected to this ?

If so is that just the beings or the Craft as well ?

That's a correct assessment and yes I think they account for the non terrestrial craft we witness, along side critters.

Google 'FIRE FROM THE SKY BATTLE OF HARVEST MOON' for info on the tech I am making reference to. It's a compilation of Beters relevant work composed by Calvin.... the name escapes me.... Barkun? ?

To expand further, and I am just repeating myself, obviously I believe in non terrestrial UFO'S,  I just remain verrry skeptical of nuts n bolts grey invasions haha.

No doubt the sort of people Z talks to know full well what I'm referring to, but I'm not privileged enough to have them discuss that business with me. I have been trying to trace more credible sources who have continued Beters work from their own angles but pickings are in short supply, and the leads I do find don't come in the English language. I have little to no faith in anyone participating in these UFO circuits, for reasons s explained by Carrion and Zorgon.

Time will always tell, lucky for me I still have at least 50 years of natural age left to see me through. Neeeneeeneeennaa

[A51Watcher]

Well actually it DOES compute if you look at Bob's story..

Well I still don't see the payoff for them.

A rogue element wanting disclosure perhaps, but certainly not officially sanctioned.

Speaking of missing time, John discusses in an interview how Bob told him about an incident where he was inside a powered up craft for 20 minutes tops and when he came out something like 6 hours had gone by.

John said he had forgotten all about that until the interviewer had brought it up.

[A51Watcher]

Now a thought about Stanton Friedman

On his own website in his own biography Stanton says he never got a doctorate in Nuclear Physics and he only worked in the filed a few short years on projects that were all closed (or he was fired? )  In any case not an illustrius career. He gave it up to SELL UFO's yet has admitted he NEVER saw one...

His claim to 'fame' is the Bob Lazar story. No matter where he goes people who respect him 'because he is a nuclear scientist' ALWAYS ask "What about Bob?"

Stanton would be a failed nobody if he didn't ride Bob's coat tails.

Whether or not you believe Bob's entire story... why would Stanton know ANYTHING? Just because he is a 'nuclear scientist' (failed career)?  Seem there is more money on the UFO circuit than there is in Nuclear Physics

Even today, on Stanton front page you see the BASH BOB thread

I spoke to Stanton briefly at the conference. He had a heart attack last year and didn't remember me at all.

He didn't look well but I hope he continues to recover.

In one of the most recent interviews I have seen with him he seems a bit more contrite, and chooses his words more carefully now like "I never said his story is not true, I just have not seen any evidence to support it".



   

[zorgon]

Well I still don't see the payoff for them.

Not saying he was but the evidence says it is a possibility. The payoff? Well that would be the same as the Avro Saucer story.

I was in Canada at the time the story was still fresh. The news media had gotten wind that Canada and the USA was working on a secret base on the Alberta USA border on NAZI saucer technology captures in Europe. There were even maps of flight paths that showed a possible source of the Kenneth Arnold Saucer... It was this story that got me seriously into UFO'S when I was a kid...

So because too many looky loos were heading to Alberta... they released the Avro Car... and the Press and most everyone else went away laughing at the joke that was the Avro...

That completely removed the threat of curious onlookers at the time... So what do they have to gain?

Well Area 51 had the same situation... so give them what they want   sorta.  Area 51 is now a tourist hotspot but we see nothing new since Bob's et all videos

So like the Avro story the real work carries on elswhere

Speaking of missing time, John discusses in an interview how Bob told him about an incident where he was inside a powered up craft for 20 minutes tops and when he came out something like 6 hours had gone by.

That is one part that makes it on my 'likely true" list

John said he had forgotten all about that until the interviewer had brought it up.

Seems to be a lot of lost memory around UFO's... I wonder if there are any studies on memory effects under strong energy fields?

10 Things an Electromagnetic Field Can Do to Your Brain
http://io9.com/5851828/10-things-an-electromagnetic-field-can-do-to-your-brain

THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS
http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=19990303201129

References to "Mag Lag" also known as the subtle effect on cognitive processes of MRI machine operators who sometimes have to go into the scanner room to check the patients and deal with issues that occur during the scan could suggest a link between magnetic fields and consciousness. Memory loss and delays in information processing have been reported, in some cases several hours after exposure. [23]

One hypothesis is that magnetic fields in the 0.5-9 Tesla range can affect the ion permeability of neural membranes, in fact this could account for a lot of the issues seen as this would affect many different brain functions.

And those are relatively WEAK fields... there are no studies available on the effects of standing near a gGravitron

[zorgon]

"I never said his story is not true, I just have not seen any evidence to support it".

Now THAT is interesting indeed

[zorgon]

On a different note...

Will MUFON and CSI take the UFO Best Evidence Challenge?

Well we were not invited to the party

The challenge will begin when crowdfunding has reached the $100,000.00 mark. MUFON will have a four month period to present its best evidence and CSI will have a four month period to produce its analytical report. The panel of judges will have two weeks to deliberate before presenting a winner with a check for $100,000.00.

After MUFON and CSI have publicly accepted the challenge I will set up a crowdfunding website for donations at tilt.com. The cool thing about this crowdfunding site is that those who pledge will not be charged unless the $100,000.00 level is first met. So if the whole $100,000.00 cannot be publicly raised than no one loses a dime.

The question is will MUFON and CSI take the UFO Best Evidence Challenge, or will they just pay lip service to their mission statements? The gauntlet has been thrown and I sincerely hope MUFON and CSI pick it up and embrace their raison d'être as nonprofits and more importantly allow the public to see real science at work – not the mockery of science that we are fed by the media machine. In the process may the best science win!

100,000.00  My my...

Rest of the story here..
http://www.theufochronicles.com/2015/08/will-mufon-and-csi-take-ufo-best.html

[A51Watcher]

This is one of the issues I was going to raise.  I'm of the belief that Bob  did have a brief work history at said locations but that he was CHOSEN to be the 'leak'. I doubt it was his own free will, whether he's aware of that or not. I found A51s Snowden analogy to be accurate, but for different reasons to A51.

Look, the payoff for releasing details on the most secret project and technology in our possession would have to be HUGE.

I don't see the payoff anywhere. How would you pitch such an idea to your boss?

If it was planned release as Z says, why didn't they allow Bob to continue to take John and his friends out there to see the test flights and continue to work there? 

I still disagree with A51 ' s statements that we couldn't build our own 'UFO'S'. I don't believe them to be piloted tho. Some are, but not the ones that break the conventional laws of physics.

Because fans on batteries ain't gonna getcha there.

No reason why not piloted. Evidence shows them to react individually to stimuli such as radar and approaching aircraft.

I saw them react to alarm flares. So humans CAN survive such speeds and maneuvers, but it requires a special field.

Bob saw one in contact by human voice radio with control center and react to orders.

There is also a huge jump between lazar and Roswell, one that has not been satisfactorily demonstrated as far as I'm concerned.

The connection is simple - even to this day nobody in the world is doing 15k and 90 degree turns piloted or not.

The craft out there certainly do, and as amazing as it is to watch... it is old news.

This technology has been demonstrated since Roswell and continues to this day.

That's the connection.


Military scientists even took into consideration Atomic powered craft from another nation as a possible source, and quite rightly reported that such technology was beyond the grasp of any nation on earth at that time. Atomic craft may sound impressive by name, but in reality what do you do with such power. Fan blades?

A good read on what German Atomic scientists were actually up to and what level they had secretly achieved during the war is the recently declassified White Hall recordings that were secretly made of the detained scientists while they were being held incommunicado for many months after the war.   

Much closer than we have been led to believe.

Close, but no cigar.

[A51Watcher]

Yes weapons based platforms as described by Dr Peter Beter.
Even discarnate entities have gave us in depth descriptions of these craft.

Therefore I want to know why A51 keeps dismissing these other accounts from his version of events.

And the facts are, no one knows anything about the 'Roswell' type craft, not in the depths of the Lazar sports model anyway. The two cases are leaps and bounds from each other.

Actually I put together a collection of just the speeds and maneuvers reported in 1947 and posted it in the Roswell thread.

I got a good laugh while doing it because I recognized all the speeds and maneuvers reported, as the same ones I had seen out there.

Same exact stuff. So capability is the same.

Not many modes of travel can account for that.