New Research Topic - The Airships of King Solomon

[A51Watcher]

Bacchus and Ariadne
by Luca Giordano circa 1670



Now there's some nice clouds. 

[ArMaP]

And? Are you assuming the artists/directors interpretation is wrong?

Unlike the people that assume they are an exact representation of what happened, I'm assuming nothing.

[Sinny]

So after all that, you have no opinion. 

[zorgon]

ArMaP is stuck between a Rock and a Hard Place... He is like Fox Mulder  He WANTS to believe but just can't quite get there

But hey  we have found a few he can't dismiss   

[zorgon]

Bacchus and Ariadne
by Luca Giordano circa 1670
Now there's some nice clouds. 

NICE! I did not have that one!!!

[ArMaP]

Hi all, I am enjoying the thread so far.

A disc like object pouring smoke; hovering over buildings has been found in a Romanian monastery wall painting thought to date from the 16th century.



It is very close to the depiction in the coin Z has posted.

That's an interesting find, but I wonder why the text appears to be in German, if it was found in a Romanian monastery wall.

[ArMaP]

So after all that, you have no opinion. 

I have an opinion, but that's not what I have been talking about, what I have been saying is that the paintings, being made centuries after the events and influenced by the time they were made, should not be considered a true representation of the events from biblical times, in the same way I don't think we should look at a painting representing Jesus as a Caucasian (or whatever) man as a true representation of what the real Jesus looked like.

[ArMaP]

ArMaP is stuck between a Rock and a Hard Place... He is like Fox Mulder  He WANTS to believe but just can't quite get there

I don't want to believe in any thing, I want to know.

[Somamech]

Revelation of the Holy Grail
By Chevalier Emerys



Revelation of the Holy Grail  By Chevalier Emerys

Relevant Clipping from Google Books

Hey dude do you have anything on the term "Shemanna" used in that article in reference to Spaceships?

The few searches I have done keep referring back to bread.  Now if that term is infact how good Bread is. Then why did people learn to make Bread all at a similar time whilst not being connected geographically.  That make no sense in the official Earth Tale.

Which means nothing as if I was to search how the Pyramids were built I would most likely find some dude with a long tree branch manipulating a pulley based system stating "I can lift a million tonne rock in my backyard.... Egypt Cracked" whilst omitting how he didn't make perfectly square and precise fitting rock's to make an actual pyramid... which then becomes fact because it suits modern human thought, which then becomes slobber for the web to be posted by every slobbering fool who has no inclination to challenge their 'Status Quo' in the story of Earth.

 

 

[burntheships]

That's an interesting find, but I wonder why the text appears to be in German, if it was found in a Romanian monastery wall.

Good question ArMap, I will try and find out more.

If you come up with anything, feel free to debunk it.

[zorgon]

Possible UFO discovered in an old wall painting in Romania
Posted by: Alejandro Rojas  June 18, 2014.

A UFO research organization in Israel has sent out a report regarding a wall painting in a 14th century church in Romania that may depict a UFO. It is similar to objects seen in paintings and coins ranging from the 4th century to the 17th century. One UFO investigator feels that the objects in the images may have an explanation that is more down to earth.
Gilli Schechter and Hannan Sabat of the Israeli Extraterrestrials and UFOs Research Organization (EURA), say they received a picture of the painting from Catalina Borta. Borta took the picture while visiting the Biserica Manastirii, or Church of the Dominican Monastery, in the town of Sighisoara. Sighisoara is believed to the birthplace of Vlad the Impaler, the inspiration for the legend of Dracula.

The Sighisoara wall painting. (Credit: Catalina Borta)

The wall painting depicts a disc-shaped object over a building that is emitting smoke. It also has a caption in German that reads "Israel, hoffe auf den HERRN," which translated means "Israel, put your hope in the Lord." EURA explains that this is a quote from Psalms song of ascents, c.130 v.7.

The painting appears to be very old, but it is hard to tell how old. According the Monastery's website, it was originally built in the 14th century, but was destroyed and rebuilt in the 17th century. The EURA report also notes that they are unsure who painted it and when. However, they point out that the caption in the painting probably dates it to after 1523, when the bible was translated into German.

EURA also notes that the painting is not often referenced in UFO research regarding depictions of UFOs in art. However, the image does look similar to other paintings and coins which are commonly believed by UFO researchers to depict aerial anomalies.

One such image is from the Prodigiorum Liber, which was an account of mysterious occurrence in early Rome written by Julius Obsequens. The image in question is supposed to depict a round object that was seen at sunset with a "large beam of fire" to the right. This sighting is supposed to have taken place in 98 B.C.

Image from the Prodigiorum Liber.

There are also French coins from the 17th century with a similar round object. Some researchers believe these to be depictions of Ezekiel's wheel. However, Marc Dantonio, Chief Photo/Video Analyst for the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON), has another explanation. He says the shield-shaped object in these images is just that, a military shield.
Dantonio came to this conclusion by researching France in the late 1600s. He found the shields of that period did appear just like the images depicted in the coins. Furthermore, there was a civil war in France in 1680, in which the territorial aristocracy was replaced by the absolute monarch of Louis XIV. He believes the shields were placed on the coins to illustrate King Louis' strength.

Coins from France called Jetons. These depict the shield images that are often believed to be UFOs.


Images provided by Marc Dantonio of a couple of shields from antiquity whose designs look similar to those in the "UFO" art.

He points out that on another coin, arrows can be seen raining down onto the shield as in an archer's attack. He also notes that in some cases a line can be seen coming from the center of the shield, which is often mistaken for a ray of light coming from the craft. However, Dantonio explains this is actually a piece of metal that is attached to the shield to deflect arrows.

Although, Dantonio says the object is a shield, he admits that it is still a mystery as to why they are in the sky or coming out of the clouds. He writes:
"One story is that this particular coin is showing Jupiter's Shield falling to Earth to aid Numa Pompilius, the second Roman king. The shield it said led them to victory during desperate times. But even so, it is still interesting that the shield was bestowed from on high. Was there some otherworldly influence rooted in their culture that prompted putting the shield in the sky? Protection or technology from above perhaps? That's still a mystery."

http://www.openminds.tv/possible-ufo-discovered-old-wall-painting-romania/28362

[zorgon]

So... the German inscription  "Israel, hoffe auf den HERRN," which translated means "Israel, put your hope in the Lord." means that this object was intended to portray protection from God.

That ties in to the same version as the coins being a Shield sent from Jupiter.

Seems pretty clear in meaning to me

[zorgon]

Hey dude do you have anything on the term "Shemanna" used in that article in reference to Spaceships?

The few searches I have done keep referring back to bread.  Now if that term is infact how good Bread is. Then why did people learn to make Bread all at a similar time whilst not being connected geographically.  That make no sense in the official Earth Tale.

Actually it comes back as Shem-an-na so far

The truly astonishing fact about the enigmatic white powder of high-spin gold and platinum group metals is that it is not actually a new discovery. The ancient Mesopotamians called it shem-an-na and the Egyptians described it as mfkzt (vowels are omitted in the hieroglyph translation), while the Alexandrians venerated it as a gift from Paradise and later chemists such as Nicolas Flamel called it the Philosophers' Stone.

I am going to assume he made an error because from Lawrence Gardiner we get THIS

The Shadow of Solomon: The Lost Secret of the Freemasons ...
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1578634040
Laurence Gardner - 2007 - ?Social Science
The point has been made that because gravity determines space-time, then elements ... this magical powder of projection was also called shem-an-na, abbreviated in ... Although attached as a Chapter to the 3rd degree of the Craft, Royal Arch  ...

[burntheships]

Great information, thank you Zorgon!

I am going with Ezekials wheel as an explanation.
That does not look like a "typical" military shield.
Perhaps Ezekials wheel was some type of both,
a flying craft, and supernatural protection?

Very very interesting!

[Senduko]

Awesome Thread, did some googling and found some other cool paintings from him.





It almost looks like the guy was obsessed with ufo's.


The first painting clearly shows that the "stars" where painted as if they where spinning.