a martian oddbox

[ArMaP]

have you been reading Carnegie books again ?

Carnegie books? Never heard about them.

you want me to lie straight off the bat ? ill not be ever sorry, for asking a question to an employee that publicly displays there email and besides it comes across cheesy

No, I don't want you to lie, I hate lies, I wrote what I would say, and I always apologise for taking people's time, as time is the most precious thing we have, we haven't found a way of getting it back once we use it.

no no no , I have query about what's been speculated about the fog and its corresponding environment
the only doubt I have is the pdf guys ability to use a crayon

In my example I would start by saying what work was related to my query, as many scientists change the type of work they do, so a work done some years ago may not be related to what they are doing now and they might not remember exactly what we are talking about.

I think that's what happened with Jim Garvin, he asked me what PDF I was talking about, as just my description wasn't enough for him to remember what it was about.

almost the same as mine , but mines short and to the point

To your point, but when you are talking with other people you should think about them, not about yourself.

I suppose that's why I get answers and other people do not.

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ok ok let me have another try
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most revered and astute Nasa employee, creator and manipulator of Quazi.
I hope not to indulge in your time to much and humbly bring my stupid intellect and a question  to your magnificent fatherly/motherly guidance

let me tarry no further and ask if there's life under the fog you took a picture of on mars? and burden you not with , I fear, a cloud of of ignorant stupidity , surely the most dangerous of clouds

yours, with sincerest gratitude for wasting your lunch break and hoping my question does not cause to much indigestion

FuNbOx
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I think that's what happened with Jim Garvin, he asked me what PDF I was talking about, as just my description wasn't enough for him to remember what it was about.

I tend to struggle remembering back to the 'hand print picture days' too

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[ArMaP]

I suppose diplomacy is not your strongest point.

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I suppose diplomacy is not your strongest point.

I suppose your right, but then I don't wont to ask NASA, I thought I was asking initially , what your thought were on " whats potentially could be under the fog

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[ArMaP]

I suppose under the fog are the same things that are there when there's no fog, rocks and sand.

One thing that PDF showed me was something I didn't know, the difference in temperature on those lower areas, and, apparently, the temperatures are lower. I suppose that the difference in altitude also creates higher atmospheric pressures, so while those higher pressures may make it easier for water to exist in liquid state, the lower temperatures make it harder.

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I suppose under the fog are the same things that are there when there's no fog, rocks and sand.

One thing that PDF showed me was something I didn't know, the difference in temperature on those lower areas, and, apparently, the temperatures are lower. I suppose that the difference in altitude also creates higher atmospheric pressures, so while those higher pressures may make it easier for water to exist in liquid state, the lower temperatures make it harder.

are there any pictures of this detail, without the fog covering ?  if the fog ever clears, that is

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[ArMaP]

are there any pictures of this detail, without the fog covering ?  if the fog ever clears, that is

I went looking for photos of that specific area of Valles Marineris here and found that, apparently, Mars Express photos show the fog, photos from other missions do not. 

Also, I found this page talking about a "dust haze" instead of "fog", and they are talking about the same photo.

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and now 'dust haze' to add to the list

why is it they're having difficulty in deciding what the clouds are comprised of?

can I add whipped cream to the growing list of confusion ?

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[ArMaP]

can I add whipped cream to the growing list of confusion ?

Please do.

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Please do.

but seriously what type of white dust gathers in such a way, if its dust why is it's transiency, season dependant ?

I don't buy it

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[ArMaP]

Yes, there's something strange about it, both reports can't be correct (if I understood them right).

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Yes, there's something strange about it, both reports can't be correct (if I understood them right).

the quality of the pdf presentation tells me something isn't right

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[ArMaP]

the quality of the pdf presentation tells me something isn't right

The quality of the presentation may not be directly proportional to the quality of the data and the conclusions.

[Dyna]

I would say it in a slightly different way.

Something like this:

"Hello Nasa Employee
First of all, sorry for taking your time. I read your work about XXXX and have some doubts, is the difference in environment enough to give better chances for the persistence of surface water? If yes, in which regions is that more likely to happen? And what consequences for the potential of a life supporting environment?

Thanks in advance."

What about persistence of water directly below the surface. The same thing as surface water really as any creature living there would have developed the means to penetrate it.


Tons of posts throughout the years angry at even the suggestion of surface water "IMPOSSIBLE" water cannot remain even for moments on the surface under mars conditions! Oh yes this does not include water moisture coating the rovers but of course that is gone in seconds it is not persistent.

So persistent was added along the way after impossible for ANY water was proved wrong.

The presence of subsurface water has long been suspected but required the appearance of strange layered craters to confirm.

http://www.space.com/17048-water-on-mars.html

Nice page here 
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Mars_Blue_Bird_Water_04.html

[Dyna]

ok ok let me have another try
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most revered and astute Nasa employee, creator and manipulator of Quazi.
I hope not to indulge in your time to much and humbly bring my stupid intellect and a question  to your magnificent fatherly/motherly guidance

let me tarry no further and ask if there's life under the fog you took a picture of on mars? and burden you not with , I fear, a cloud of of ignorant stupidity , surely the most dangerous of clouds

yours, with sincerest gratitude for wasting your lunch break and hoping my question does not cause to much indigestion

FuNbOx
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I tend to struggle remembering back to the 'hand print picture days' too

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Oh I am laughing out loud 
Yours truly...sincerely... maybe.