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Confirmation – Tianjin was nuked

Started by this_is_who_we_are, August 26, 2015, 11:55:40 AM

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"While a layman like myself can recognise the overall similarity, it takes an expert to fully analyse the evidence contained in the pictures; luckily, at VT we have such an expert in the erstwhile Jeff Smith who provided the following analysis:

Normal people are not trained in what to look at so they simply ignore the obvious. However, once you see enough explosions like this you begin to spot the artefacts in the photos real fast. Unfortunately all of these people that know this stuff usually work for the government. Just like I did.

The big clue is in the ash produced and the exploding radiators on the cars. They show the radiation and the blast patterns the best. All melted rubber, glass, and aluminium but no melted steel? This tells you it is from radiation and not from a gasoline fire. Temps between 1500 degrees C for melting aluminium and less than 3,000 degrees C for melting steel. Everything organic ashes below 450 degrees C.

This had a plasma fireball that was over 4,000C! Only a nuke can do that. The clue is in the white ash leftover from the thermal blast."

"A. The fuel tanks did not explode.

B. The rubber tires were ashed not burned see the white powder residue around the cars.

C. The radiators are all gone; indicating Freon explosions.

D. All the glass is ashed or melted; also the the glass was blown out not in.

E. All new white cars show extreme effects from very high temperature heating. The paint is badly damaged due to a very high oxidation rate effect.

F. Silicone rubber tires ash at 500 degrees centigrade. Glass ashes at 1500 degrees centigrade. Gasoline at 250 degrees centigrade. Tires melted but no gas tank explosions; just like on 911.

G. Yellow Volkswagen Beetle cars untouched due to location indicating radiation shielding from a nearby building. Just like on 911....

H. Finally and most important is all of the nano particle sized ash on the ground everywhere. Purple haze in photo is an indication of toxic levels of the gases fluorine, chlorine and sodium.

Conclusion; The damage to the cars was produced by neutron radiation damage and not by conventional explosives or a fuel-air explosion. The distance from ground zero is too great for a standard blast to melt the glass and tires. Also the cars fuel tanks were shielded from the heat of the ignition source."

"So there you have it, the 'smoking gun' evidence of a nuke is to be found among the smoking wreckage of those incinerated cars. However, the pictures of burnt out cars contain more evidence to be analysed before we move on to the other evidence."


Read the full article here:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/08/25/confirmation-tianjin-was-nuked/

And a fullpage screencap here in case the article is disappeared:

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"The uninitiated perceive time with no appreciation of the beginning. And no understanding of the end. To them time is an infinite commodity. We know better and we will not waste a second of it. This is who we are."

ArMaP

Quote from: this_is_who_we_are on August 26, 2015, 11:55:40 AM
And a fullpage screencap here in case the article is disappeared:
I added the page to the Internet Archive's WayBack Machine. :)

I haven't look much into all that is said on that article, but it sounds like someone trying to sound technical and knowledgeable about something he doesn't really know, like saying that the temperature of the fire ball was above 4000º C because of the colour in the videos.

One thing I noticed many people saying is that only a nuclear explosion could create the "crater", but to me that looks more like a hole in an artificial ground, something that is common in port areas to create more space than the port originally had by creating huge slabs of concrete supported by columns that go down to the bottom of the port.

Gigas

Quote from: ArMaP on August 26, 2015, 03:46:59 PM
I added the page to the Internet Archive's WayBack Machine. :)

I haven't look much into all that is said on that article, but it sounds like someone trying to sound technical and knowledgeable about something he doesn't really know, like saying that the temperature of the fire ball was above 4000º C because of the colour in the videos.

One thing I noticed many people saying is that only a nuclear explosion could create the "crater", but to me that looks more like a hole in an artificial ground, something that is common in port areas to create more space than the port originally had by creating huge slabs of concrete supported by columns that go down to the bottom of the port.


So now your an expert to. How's that you know so much about this not being a nuke. You some kinda scientist, a technically trained bomb expert, you know this was a bomb blast and not a nuke blast, so you throw chops at any one suggesting the facts.

Your not helping with getting the story straight by your small thinking. 
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ArMaP

Quote from: Gigas on August 26, 2015, 06:23:59 PM
So now your an expert to.
No, just someone with an opinion, like everyone else. :)

QuoteHow's that you know so much about this not being a nuke. You some kinda scientist, a technically trained bomb expert, you know this was a bomb blast and not a nuke blast, so you throw chops at any one suggesting the facts.
First of all, facts do not need to be suggested, facts they are just that, facts. I don't have any problems with suggestions, but presenting an opinion (it was a nuclear explosion) as if it was a fact is not a suggestion.

QuoteYour not helping with getting the story straight by your small thinking.
And since when presenting theories as if they were facts helps?
Verifiable facts is what we need to get the story straight, so we can look at the facts and create a theory that fits the facts, not trying to fit the facts to the most popular theories.

ArMaP

Some things present on that article that I find suspicious, and why:

QuoteThe fact that the fireball was whited out or clipped indicates that the colour temperature was over 4,000 degrees C.
Not true, specially in cameras with automatic correction, like those on cell phones. When filming a scene with a specific light level the camera will adjust the image for that light level, but when something like an explosion suddenly appears the camera needs to readjust the light levels and, while it's doing it, it will show an image brighter than it should be. I suppose it's possible to get an idea of the temperature of an explosion captured on a video, but for that we would need to know the exact characteristics of the sensor used and how the camera reacts to light changes.

QuoteAll melted rubber, glass, and aluminium but no melted steel?
I didn't see any melted glass.

QuoteTemps between 1500 degrees C for melting aluminium and less than 3,000 degrees C for melting steel.
Aluminium melts around 700º C, steel at 1500º C.

QuoteC. The radiators are all gone; indicating Freon explosions.
Not true, there are many photos of cars burned without exploded radiators.
A doubt, do cars really use freon on the radiators? I thought it was used on air conditioning only, and that it was forbidden some years ago.

QuoteD. All the glass is ashed or melted; also the the glass was blown out not in.
If the glass was ashed (does glass really turn into ash?) or melted, how was it blown out, not in?
And not all cars have the glass missing, as seen here.

QuoteF. Silicone rubber tires ash at 500 degrees centigrade.
Silicone tires? Do they really exist?

QuoteGlass ashes at 1500 degrees centigrade.
Glass ashes at 1500º C?  That's the melting temperature.

QuoteGasoline at 250 degrees centigrade.
I suppose that means the temperature at which gasoline ignites, not the temperature at which it "ashes".

QuoteTires melted but no gas tank explosions; just like on 911.
The tires burned, didn't melt, we can see the ashes of the tires and the melted aluminium of the wheels.

Ellirium113


Senduko

Quotenano particle sized ash

I'm no expert, but how can one conclude the size of the ash from low res images?
QuoteG. Yellow Volkswagen Beetle cars untouched due to location indicating radiation shielding from a nearby building. Just like on 911....
Wouldn't radiation penetrate the building? Unless it was specifically designed to withstand such things, which seems unlikely.

QuoteH. ...Purple haze in photo is an indication of toxic levels of the gases fluorine, chlorine and sodium.
If the materials where nuked sort of speak, wouldn't they lose all their toxic elements? ( like a real question here )

What this expert isn't talking about is, if this was a nuke.. Where is this effect in the photo's?

And finally, no I really don't believe this was a nuke.

ShotInTheDark

#7
That's absolutely scary how come there's no deaths ? The place was leveled I read about 700 injuries someone had to be vaporized... That was insane !!!

zorgon

Seems there was a THIRD Chemical explosion in China

QuoteChinese authorities "seed the clouds" to make rain to help put out massive chemical fire!
A giant explosion of a chemical tank at Rizhao Port last month saw local authorities seed the clouds in the area to make it rain and help douse the dangerous inferno.



QuoteThe tank, containing liquid hydrogen, caught fire in the Lanbei part of the port.
The city sent more than 50 fire engines and about 300 firemen to put out the fire.
As of 4.30pm local time, the fire had still not been put out.
Citizens living near the explosion site have been evacuated while Rizhao Steel, which is also near the site, has suspended operation and evacuated workers.

http://www.thebigwobble.org/2015/08/one-accident-is-coincidence-two-is-bad.html

zorgon

Japan US Military Base Explosion: Multiple Blasts Reported At United States Army Facility In Sagamihara


A major explosion has been reported at a U.S. military base in Japan. Above, Smoke rises from a fire at a factory after an earthquake and tsunami struck Shiogama City in Miyagi Prefecture in northern Japan March 12, 2011. REUTERS/Kyodo

QuoteUPDATE, 2:46 p.m. EDT: Officials at the Pentagon said they were aware of reports of an explosion at a U.S. military base in Sagamihara, Japan, but said they could not confirm the blast occurred on the base. "We're aware of the report, but we don't have confirmation that the explosion occurred on the base," Pentagon spokesman U.S. Navy Commander Bill Urban said, according to Reuters.

Original story below.

QuoteMultiple explosions hit at an American military base in Japan, local media outlets reported Sunday. Early reports indicate a warehouse on the base remained burning as emergency vehicles responded to the blasts.

The explosions occurred at the Sagami General Depot, a U.S. Army base in Sagamihara, about 25 miles from Tokyo. Petroleum products and ammunition are stored at there, [url+http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/08/23/explosion-reported-at-us-military-facility-in-japan/]Fox News reported[/url].

QuoteThe city's fire department said the blasts occurred shortly before 1 a.m., local time, the Russian RT news network reported, citing Japanese news sources. More than 10 fire trucks were dispatched to the site, and a helicopter reportedly was heard circling above.

Videos and photos were shared on social media showing the site of the explosion on fire with smoke rising. Several blasts are audible in the videos. No injuries have yet been reported and the residents in nearby areas have not been evacuated.

http://www.ibtimes.com/japan-us-military-base-explosion-multiple-blasts-reported-united-states-army-facility-2064691




Gigas

Quote from: ArMaP on August 26, 2015, 07:12:12 PM
No, just someone with an opinion, like everyone else. :)
First of all, facts do not need to be suggested, facts they are just that, facts. I don't have any problems with suggestions, but presenting an opinion (it was a nuclear explosion) as if it was a fact is not a suggestion.
And since when presenting theories as if they were facts helps?
Verifiable facts is what we need to get the story straight, so we can look at the facts and create a theory that fits the facts, not trying to fit the facts to the most popular theories.

Guy, your a serial thread killer.

You have to learn to stop stepping on peoples stuff.
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