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Started by astr0144, December 11, 2015, 12:08:16 AM

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astr0144

#30
That could be an interesting theory..

With Trump.. I was unsure if he is / was someone who was deciding to oppose the existing system or if hes part of it..

Again IF Alex Jones is a Schill.. and they have slowly led to a series of events between them or maybe many others who we are not sure about.. then that does make it very hard to try to work out whats really going on..

With Trump being a High profiled Businessman...I considered that he maybe someone who overall was Honest and maybe was really concerned that the System was getting out of hand and that he decided to challenge it..

or...
Are all the MAIN Candidates  (Obama/Bush/Clinton/Trump) all in on this and acting it out in some way I wonder ?

and is the system so corrupt that NO one dare challenge it..
It seems it maybe a risk if anyone really ever considered it...
and may change ones views on many past theories..

or is the system what we all should accept and its honest and we should all be happy with !  ???

Its also disturbing and depressing..

Is there anyone who maybe really opposing anything in reality ?

or just one big whole drama to keep the masses in the belief someones challenging it..



ArMaP
QuoteMostly yes.

From what I have seen in recent years, it looks like the presidential candidates in the US are chosen for what they may represent to the public instead of what they propose to do. For example, the choice between Obama and Hilary Clinton looked like a test to see if what some people said (that the US will elect a black president before electing a woman) was true.

Also, their politics, regardless of political side, look too close for people to have a real choice, so they use people that can be chosen for other reasons.

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on December 13, 2015, 02:40:44 AM
Again IF Alex Jones is a Schill.. and they have slowly led to a series of events between them or maybe many others who we are not sure about.. then that does make it very hard to try to work out whats really going on..
I do think Alex Jones is a schil, someone like him is in a very good position for that, and if he was bad for TPTB they would have shut him up a long time ago, there are many simple ways of doing that without attracting attentions.

QuoteWith Trump being a High profiled Businessman...I considered that he maybe someone who overall was Honest and maybe was really concerned that the System was getting out of hand and that he decided to challenge it..
I don't think that "high profile businessman" and "honest" should be on the same sentence.  :P

QuoteAre all the MAIN Candidates  (Obama/Bush/Clinton/Trump) all in on this and acting it out in some way I wonder ?
The main candidates are all from just two political parties, so the only thing that is needed is that both political parties have some kind of agreement or are just acting in the name of another, unknown, power. Judging by how politics in the US are the result of lobbying, I think that a hidden lobbying power could be behind this, choosing which candidate appears to have the higher public acceptance and presenting that one as the next president, so people do not suspect when he/she wins the elections.

Quoteand is the system so corrupt that NO one dare challenge it..
It's easy, no one challenges it because they are all part of it, why kill their chicken (or goose, I don't remember the story ;D) that lays the golden eggs?

Quoteor is the system what we all should accept and its honest and we should all be happy with !  ???
Nobody should accept it, but in this kind of things most Americans appear to be blind, accepting things as they are instead of asking for a more direct election.

QuoteIs there anyone who maybe really opposing anything in reality ?
As things are, I don't think there is, as people are happy in their ignorance and as long as they let them have their guns they will let the government and other political powers to do whatever they want.
(I think this whole talk about gun rights may be just another way of making people look the other way)

Quoteor just one big whole drama to keep the masses in the belief someones challenging it..
Yes, that's the easiest way of doing things: create your own "enemy", one you control, and present it as an active danger when you see people are disliking what you want, as then you will appear as a co-victim of the actions of the "enemy" and people will support you.

That's one of the reasons I think Obama has been doing all these late actions that make him lose support, to make it easier for him to be replaced by the next dummy.

rdunk

FWIW!! I believe that Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, and Ben Carson are individually crusading for what they think is best for we the people, and for the United States of America. And many many of the electorate of this country are making it clear in the "polls" (for what polls are worth??) that they are supporting and agreeing with these candidate's on the severe change specifics they are continuing to express.

Even before Obama, this country was going down the road of government over-reach, and that such has been highlighted to the extreme with the current administration, even taking it outside Constitutional law. The voices of the people have begun to "cry out in the wilderness", and FINALLY their voices are being heard. There is so much that needs to be done to get this country back on the standard track of American values and way of life in a land of and by and for the people - not "FOR" the government.

The World of today is rapidly changing, and right now this change is not being well managed, particularly not being "managed" in the normal fashion thru the strength and greatness of the United States. I believe Trump and/or Cruz are fully capable of leading this country in every area of needed change/correction. I also believe Ted Cruz to be the candidate with the strongest evidence of being a true conservative in thought and action.

It will be the votes of the people that give light to the truth of this matter!!! :)

zorgon

Canada Will Welcome 25,000 Refugees, But No Single Straight Men

Canada is allowing Syrian refugees in. Seems they are hand picked and funded PRIVATELY by undisclosed people

However Canada is also banning SINGLE MALES  (like the ones we see all over the news stirring up the trouble)  So Trump isn't the only one sending a harsh message


Displaced people from the minority Yazidi sect, fleeing violence from forces loyal to the Islamic State in Sinjar town, walk towards the Syrian border, near the border town of Elierbeh of Al-Hasakah Governorate, August 11, 2014. RODE SAID/REUTERS

QuoteCanadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced on Tuesday that the country will go ahead with its plan to resettle 25,000 Syrian refugees, moving the deadline from the end of the year to February 2016.

Earlier reports by CBC News had refugee advocates worried, citing an unnamed source who said Canada would only accept families, lone women or children because single men are considered too much of a security risk. On Tuesday, government officials said single gay men—a group often targeted by the Islamic state militant group ISIS—would still be welcome.


According to CBC News, Canadian authorities have started processing hopefuls, screening around 100 refugees a day in Lebanon in order to reach the government's self-imposed target.

http://www.newsweek.com/canada-will-welcome-25000-refugees-no-single-straight-men-398045

zorgon

#34
Great Words... Time to REMEMBER THEM












easynow

#35
Trumps is going to win.


Here's the CNN video from this morning
Link - http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/13/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-state-of-the-union/index.html






post edited to be nicer :P

ArMaP

Quote from: easynow on December 13, 2015, 09:29:39 PM
Trumps is going to win.
We will see about that when the time comes, but I don't think he will.

space otter



are YOU registered to vote?

this many folk may be deciding the next pres
126,144,000
..be afraid..be very afraid   ::)





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                  Voter Registration Statistics Data

Total number of Americans eligible to vote 218,959,000

Total number of Americans registered to vote 146,311,000

Total number of Americans who voted in the 2012 Presidential election 126,144,000

Percent of Americans who voted in the 2012 Presidential election 57.5 %

State with the highest voter turnout rate (Minnesota) 75 %

State with the lowest voter turnout rate (Utah) 53.1 %

Voter Registration by Demographics Percent

astr0144

Hi ArMaP,

I probably should try initially to answer your comments in a certain way first..and may have to come back to that..

but something sometimes just pops in my mind.. so I write it when it does....but I may get back to your other comments later if I can.

What you say could possibly be correct IF that is how it really is ! and your comments may make good sense.

Its possibly a good description and explanation.

But I am now thinking could there be another side to this !
as much as I am sure there could be numerous possibilities.

What Id like to know is this..

IF the overall system is corrupt..ran by a manipulative criminals..

One assumes there is also a Group of similar Persons who MAY Oppose them / the System..who are also in Powerful positions.

It maybe a question as WHO is the most Powerful...Would that be down to Numbers, money.. Intellect, mental strength, Brawn...High Testorone...breed or what ever..I am not entirely sure..

But if there was such a Elitest Group...Is there a reason to let the Corrupt ones appear to be running the World ?

Or Could they Take Over if they desired and change things ?

If they attempted to take over.. they may still be subject to being targeted by the other Groups..

So do they stay in the Shadows and do they have other ways that may effect what goes on I wonder..

With regards to A.J... yes they could shut him down...in many ways... if he was legit in terms of being who he claims to be..as a type of Revolutionist..

If they did I am not sure how this would effect things or the masses who may follow him..

Butt it could just be that one day he has been found deceased in a Car crash or something..and most people may not overall know what to think as much as his followers may always suspect fowl play..

We see the likes of the Bond Movies and are led to believe Bonds side is the good guys and hes opposing the bad ones...

But those of us who have tried to investigate some of this stuff are aware that likes of the Secret Services work for the system..
be it Govts or whoever ...

You / maybe I would had thought that there could be such a Elite group that could be able to oppose things...But one wonders what it is they maybe doing about it..

QuoteI do think Alex Jones is a schil, someone like him is in a very good position for that, and if he was bad for TPTB they would have shut him up a long time ago, there are many simple ways of doing that without attracting attentions.

astr0144

#39
If they say they will only accept Gay males..One assumes its down to the populations control issues or maybe that they are seen also as less a threat..

I wonder how they would be 100% certain that the males they accept would be 100% Gay. 

Do they have a way of knowing who is Gay ?
What if Straight males claim to be Gay !

As that's what may happen if they are desperate to get in !


QuoteCanada Will Welcome 25,000 Refugees, But No Single Straight Men

Canada is allowing Syrian refugees in. Seems they are hand picked and funded PRIVATELY by undisclosed people

However Canada is also banning SINGLE MALES  (like the ones we see all over the news stirring up the trouble)  So Trump isn't the only one sending a harsh message

zorgon

Quote from: astr0144 on December 14, 2015, 02:07:55 AM
If they say they will only accept Gay males..One assumes its down to the populations control issues or maybe that they are seen also as less a threat..
I wonder how they would be 100% certain that the males they accept would be 100% Gay. 
Do they have a way of knowing who is Gay ?
What if Straight males claim to be Gay !
As that's what may happen if they are desperate to get in !

We are talking Muslim here  To them being Gay is punishable by death or worse

::)


astr0144

Now you clarify that "Z".. I see your point..

I had initially also considered that some Countries only accept certain people.. not just down to ones Sexuality...so I was thinking also in terms that some of the male population may want to get into Canada and are being denied.. in this case because they are Straight..

Is that being Biased ? or right ?

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on December 14, 2015, 02:00:19 AM
IF the overall system is corrupt..ran by a manipulative criminals..

One assumes there is also a Group of similar Persons who MAY Oppose them / the System..who are also in Powerful positions.
Why? ???

QuoteWith regards to A.J... yes they could shut him down...in many ways... if he was legit in terms of being who he claims to be..as a type of Revolutionist..

If they did I am not sure how this would effect things or the masses who may follow him..

Butt it could just be that one day he has been found deceased in a Car crash or something..and most people may not overall know what to think as much as his followers may always suspect fowl play..
It's much easier to create some case about him that makes him look bad and then, as we say in Portugal, "put it on the shelve", meaning that he would get a contract with some company but wouldn't do any work.

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on December 14, 2015, 12:18:52 PM
Is that being Biased ? or right ?
I think it's just stupid.

If their idea is to accept gay men because they (theoretically) would be persecuted by ISIS and so are not terrorists, how are they going to know if they are gay or not? Ask them?

zorgon

Quote from: ArMaP on December 14, 2015, 09:25:30 PM
I think it's just stupid.

If their idea is to accept gay men because they (theoretically) would be persecuted by ISIS and so are not terrorists, how are they going to know if they are gay or not? Ask them?

Either that or they know that no gay Muslim would openly admit it so they can just ban all young single males but make it look like they care :P