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Started by astr0144, May 11, 2016, 06:19:01 AM

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ArMaP

Quote from: funbox on May 17, 2016, 01:40:24 AM
how ironic, by your own admission you narrow your field of vision by not paying attention to the fields around you, how are you supposed to see the weave , if your staring at one small patterning of the rug
It's impossible to give full attention to all the topics that may be related to extraterrestrial presence on Earth, specially when some people use the extraterrestrial excuse as an explanation to all the things they do not understand. :)

Is it possible? Yes.
Is it likely that unknown beings from an unknown planet that do not leave any real sign of their presence are the responsible? I don't think so.

funbox

Quote from: ArMaP on May 17, 2016, 09:19:07 AM
It's impossible to give full attention to all the topics that may be related to extraterrestrial presence on Earth, specially when some people use the extraterrestrial excuse as an explanation to all the things they do not understand. :)

Is it possible? Yes.
Is it likely that unknown beings from an unknown planet that do not leave any real sign of their presence are the responsible? I don't think so.

well if you spent less time refuting speculations and more time researching such topics , you be able to argue your point from a solid position of understanding,

funbox

Dyna

ArMaP
QuoteI find it funny that some people like to point out that people should "think outside the box" (I never liked that expression) but appear to see only one explanation for whatever they see they cannot explain.

funbox
"I never liked that expression either'

I like the expression, it makes me think of walls which have been put in place on the thinking especially of our scientists. They are taught to think withing the perimeters of accepted science conclusions only.
Outside the box describes very well what it takes to remove oneself from this narrow forced view and see the rest of the picture.

This is an interesting article on the subject
QuoteTowards the end of the 1950s, Isaac Asimov was invited to participate in an MIT creative team, commissioned by the Government of the United States. Their motto was "think outside the box" about the Arms Race that at the time was being fought by the world's two superpowers: the United States and the USSR.  The writer attended some of the meetings, but soon after decided to depart because he was not comfortable with possessing classified information. Asimov, however, established his participation in a short essay that was published this year by his friend Arthur Obermayer, who invited him to the "brainstorming" sessions in the first place.
http://www.faena.com/aleph/articles/isaac-asimov-suggests-how-to-nurture-creativity/

On the other hand I simply hate when people use and repeat repetitive terms for everything instead of using their own creative terms and descriptions.... :)

So I also am trying to think outside the melon  ;D
When the debate is lost,
slander becomes the tool of the loser.
Socrates

funbox

QuoteI like the expression, it makes me think of walls which have been put in place on the thinking especially of our scientists. They are taught to think withing the perimeters of accepted science conclusions only.
Outside the box describes very well what it takes to remove oneself from this narrow forced view and see the rest of the picture.

its a shame for some of them , they never got to that important destruction of ones ego, and are mostly then chained in the standing of others, which leaves them vulnerable to the likes of the royal society, and other such bodies or collaborative institutionalised mind rape gangs as I've fondly come to think of them.

Charles fort books delve into some of the scientific characters of yore, their dogmatic approach to the new and unusual is cleverly unearthed by him, which got him some serious backlash back in the day :D

but nevertheless , he exposed them for what they were

funbox


robomont

armap may have his faults but if ever i was in a court,i would want his well balanced mind as judge.never have i found a more even keel.shout out to ArMaP!
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

ArMaP

Quote from: funbox on May 17, 2016, 10:13:21 AM
well if you spent less time refuting speculations and more time researching such topics , you be able to argue your point from a solid position of understanding
How can anyone get a solid position if they don't separate the good data from the bad?

Is it better to spend years studying something just to learn at the end that it was based on flawed data or to spend some days studying the validity of the data?

funbox

Quote from: ArMaP on May 17, 2016, 09:40:19 PM
How can anyone get a solid position if they don't separate the good data from the bad?

Is it better to spend years studying something just to learn at the end that it was based on flawed data or to spend some days studying the validity of the data?

in this instance you wouldn't know to give each their labels :D
but anyway

hip hip ... hip hip

funbox

Dyna

Quote from: robomont on May 17, 2016, 09:04:23 PM
armap may have his faults but if ever i was in a court,i would want his well balanced mind as judge.never have i found a more even keel.shout out to ArMaP!
Unless some court evidence was presented by video only!! :D ;D :D ;D ???
When the debate is lost,
slander becomes the tool of the loser.
Socrates

ArMaP

Quote from: Dyna on May 17, 2016, 07:05:12 PM
I like the expression, it makes me think of walls which have been put in place on the thinking especially of our scientists. They are taught to think withing the perimeters of accepted science conclusions only.
I don't know any scientists, but my elder sister knows at least two, and they don't think like that.

ArMaP

Quote from: robomont on May 17, 2016, 09:04:23 PM
armap may have his faults but if ever i was in a court,i would want his well balanced mind as judge.never have i found a more even keel.shout out to ArMaP!
Thanks. :)

ArMaP

Quote from: funbox on May 17, 2016, 09:44:07 PM
in this instance you wouldn't know to give each their labels :D
Sorry, I don't understand what that means. ???

funbox

Quote from: Dyna on May 17, 2016, 09:48:32 PM
Unless some court evidence was presented by video only!! :D ;D :D ;D ???

*swarms of mfb's guffaw in unison*

funbox

ArMaP

Quote from: Dyna on May 17, 2016, 09:48:32 PM
Unless some court evidence was presented by video only!! :D ;D :D ;D ???
Touché!

I do watch videos, if I think they will be worth the time, the problem is that most videos we see on the Internet today are either made as if they were part of a TV show from the History channel (too much romancing around just a few facts) or made from static images (and many times those images were photos with a resolution much higher than the video).

Video is a tool, if used in a good way it helps, but if used wrongly it's just a waste of time, and time is more important than money, as you can get people to give you some money but there isn't a way of getting some extra time.

funbox

QuoteVideo is a tool, if used in a good way it helps, but if used wrongly it's just a waste of time, and time is more important than money, as you can get people to give you some money but there isn't a way of getting some extra time.

so what was so bad about the video's I posted, the first one *a strange harvest * was one of the first video documentary to be released on the animal mutilation phenomena , I figured it was an easy way to introduce you to a fascinating/ intriguing subject , you claimed you new nothing really of

you could have just told me you was burying your head instead

ill see if I can find it in screenplay format :D

funbox

ArMaP

Quote from: funbox on May 17, 2016, 10:18:23 PM
so what was so bad about the video's I posted
The length. I have to have a strong reason to spend 1 hour watching videos.

Quoteyou claimed you new nothing really of
I didn't say that, I said that "I never looked much into that subject". :)

Quoteyou could have just told me you was burying your head instead
I didn't say that because it's not true, I just don't find this specifc subject interesting enough.

Quoteill see if I can find it in screenplay format :D
I doubt it, but it would be great, as the thing I hate the most about videos is that they force people to spend the time in the way they want. Unlike reading, that I can do at different speeds and still absorb the content, when we fast forward a video it's easy to lose part of the video and we (usually) lose the sound, so the amount of data is reduced.

PS: sometimes I download YouTube videos to be able to watch them with Media Player Classic or Avidemux, as those allow me better control of the speed at which I watch them.