Coming to a street near you, the lights that keep you awake and could make u ill

[robomont]

i dont need aj to tell me,i helped build the system.i came up with digital radio in 1980.my college professor laghed at me.i was in the eighth grade taking basic on a trs 80 with cassette.as im 12 hours from homelessness myself.im not going into more detail than this ,as i got to save my gig.for emergencies etc.
except its to slave us,theyve already got all the cash and assets,nothing left but slavery.for most.the big picture is easy to see but your eyes have to be wide open.
good luck to all who dont oppose me.ill check in when i can.

[ArMaP]

but he seems to also be one who does cover such issues in details that you you may not easily obtain elsewhere and make people aware of possibility of such things...

Do you really look for other sources for the stories/cases he talks about? I have seen many people talking about news "nobody else covers" while I see them on Euronews.

Maybe even if he is 50% right...that maybe seen as worth noting.. and  I would say that he could be educating us..

That's where that Sorcha Faal thing comes into play, as using partial truths to make people think the whole story is true is what Sorcha Faal does, and, to me, it's a sign of dishonesty.

But that's not to say that he could be working on behalf of such agendas if there is truth in what he describes to openly paint a scenerio to us of what fear the P.T.B want to install in us without being accused of directly doing so.

That was one of the methods used by the fascist regime in Portugal before the Carnation Revolution of 1974, if people are kept worrying about who may be  listening to what they say then they stop talking, and, if worried enough, even stop thinking about it, afraid of saying something they shouldn't just because they were thinking "bad thoughts".

That's why I don't like him.

It seems like he was right about such things as there being a Gender Identity issue by the Elites as I believe as being seen a major concern by the majority of us I would think.. They seem to have gone way too far IMO and in a very short time..

This gender identity issue, to me, looks more like something created by those that are between the elites and the common people, the middlemen of TPTB, those that "want to be elite when grown up". Those people, during the above mentioned fascist regime, were the ones spreading the fear, as it gave them power. Not as much as those of the elites, but enough for the common people to see them as superior to themselves and, accordingly, obey them.

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Do you mean the fan or the Cover ?

I only tried the Fan for 5 minutes to see if it works..and never noticed any strange smell during that time..It maybe a bit tall for Cats to do any business on the main fan itself  as its on a tall stand.. unless they were spraying from a high wall...

If I do use it ...I will have to be careful at least in the early stages with it being 2nd hand Electrical... as it may have damp in it..but I think it had only recently been put out the day before mainly due to the cover missing..where it  could be a danger .

the whole caboodle , did you give the plug a wholehearted sniff too ? never be to careful with things and the like , some fans aren't for tinkering with...

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[astr0144]

I am not clear on what you saying Robo. as to how you claim to have helped build the system..at College....Was that not just a college project that may have had some initial or earlier stages connected with certain related parts of it..

I thought that you said in a post a few weeks ago that you had to next year to raise $1500 to say in your home !

Your now indicating you on your final day..

i dont need aj to tell me,i helped build the system.i came up with digital radio in 1980.my college professor laghed at me.i was in the eighth grade taking basic on a trs 80 with cassette.as im 12 hours from homelessness myself.im not going into more detail than this ,as i got to save my gig.for emergencies etc.
except its to slave us,theyve already got all the cash and assets,nothing left but slavery.for most.the big picture is easy to see but your eyes have to be wide open.
good luck to all who dont oppose me.ill check in when i can.

[astr0144]

For most things initially to do with  things that may relate to the NWO type of topics , Initially I may look at Alex Jones as I have followed him a long time..but over the last year or two I have not followed him as much,part of that may have been to some discussions we have had on PRC..

I do have one or two others that I also follow who often refer to similar things... but it maybe that get their views from Alex Jones anyway..

But I can later look at other researchers..But I do not always  think that I have some main other experts to relate to on such topics that I would trust any more as most others maybe conspiracy related....some are who may have been on A.Js show...

Im not sure that there maybe that many other suggested experts that I am aware who may for eg give their opinions on say A.Js comments...who may offer other opinions or views on some of the things that he may be saying..

Most Science related experts maybe too busy to look into such conspiracies.. and even the Science experts can have differing views...s that makes it hard to make any opinions at times.

I am not sure I trust the general media any more ...but there maybe some that are more trustworthy...

Do you have any egs that you recommend ?

IN REF to these Street Lights....A.J has said quite a lot about them in the past....BUT I AM NOT SURE if he has actually found someone to prove what he has said..

for eg he says there are various surviellence things installed in the modern Electrical devices..such as our televisions as an eg.. where he suggested they have installed cameras that can watch us and work even when switched off from the mains..maybe by a wifi type of system...

BUT he has not as yet has any expert take a TV apart and show us ! on one of his videos as far as I am aware..

Its the same with the Street Lights .. I will need to see proof of some sort to really believe it...


Its hard to say with the Smart meters..

ive seen other experts claims on it other than A.Js connections and they do concern me that they may well be as A.J described..which if so... then I do think what he is telling us would probably be correct in ref to such an agenda..

Do you really look for other sources for the stories/cases he talks about? I have seen many people talking about news "nobody else covers" while I see them on Euronews.

Its a difficult one, as some facts maybe truth and those that are can be a concern alone...

but no doubt it can be hard to know the true or whole facts..
If one is able to do the research or find  a trusted source who may offer them,,, then that maybe the only way to make any opinions on such things..

That's where that Sorcha Faal thing comes into play, as using partial truths to make people think the whole story is true is what Sorcha Faal does, and, to me, it's a sign of dishonesty.

In many a case the true facts are not known  or covered up or things are created to mislead..or hide the truth..

I think that there seems few things that we can trust.. that there is always missing parts to any story or conspiracy related topics.

and we can always find fault in what ever any so called expert may suggest.

That was one of the methods used by the fascist regime in Portugal before the Carnation Revolution of 1974, if people are kept worrying about who may be  listening to what they say then they stop talking, and, if worried enough, even stop thinking about it, afraid of saying something they shouldn't just because they were thinking "bad thoughts".

That's why I don't like him.

I think if the NWO or there are some in power who want to create problems...that it is very possible that they have been trying to alter our Identities or gender levels..if not fully physically, maybe more mentally...

It was suggested that Hitler was aiming to do this ! so why stop after WW2....

It may now become unstoppable while they maybe putting hormonal change substances in our food and water...

it would weaken us a more if that is their aim..

This gender identity issue, to me, looks more like something created by those that are between the elites and the common people, the middlemen of TPTB, those that "want to be elite when grown up". Those people, during the above mentioned fascist regime, were the ones spreading the fear, as it gave them power. Not as much as those of the elites, but enough for the common people to see them as superior to themselves and, accordingly, obey them.

[ArMaP]

I am not sure I trust the general media any more ...but there maybe some that are more trustworthy...

Do you have any egs that you recommend ?

I only watch Euronews, while taking breakfast. It doesn't look much biased, although sometimes I can see that they are more suggesting something than reporting the news.

Besides that I listen to the news on the radio, so not much from that either.

BUT he has not as yet has any expert take a TV apart and show us ! on one of his videos as far as I am aware..

And that is something easily done, as there are thousands of people that know how to do it.

Its hard to say with the Smart meters..

ive seen other experts claims on it other than A.Js connections and they do concern me that they may well be as A.J described..which if so... then I do think what he is telling us would probably be correct in ref to such an agenda..

I have a smart meter at home, they replaced the old one some two months ago, what concerns are there about them?

In many a case the true facts are not known  or covered up or things are created to mislead..or hide the truth..

That's one thing I don't like in the "conspiracy theory" area, when things do not appear to show that some theory is then there's always the old excuse of being "covered up", with no need for any evidence of that.

I think if the NWO or there are some in power who want to create problems...that it is very possible that they have been trying to alter our Identities or gender levels..if not fully physically, maybe more mentally...

Why?

It was suggested that Hitler was aiming to do this ! so why stop after WW2....

See the problem with those type of sentences? You said "it was suggested that Hitler was aiming to do this", so it's not something confirmed, but your "why stop after WW2" suggests that it was a fact, so what started as suggestion is now talked about as a fact.

it would weaken us a more if that is their aim..

If.

[astr0144]

It maybe a case that even before I came across A.J I had read a book that made a lot of ref to similar related things that I did think was quite possible....so maybe many of my own views also relate to those beliefs...and my impression over the years is that much of what he claimed may well be correct..(He was a Scientist)

Some of the things he warned about was Govt Control over numerous things..media being one of them...as well as things like the health services and Drug companies..and many govt related systems..

So I am not sure that I believe many medias, but I do think some maybe better than others in what they tell us...

But maybe Id prefer what I think maybe more experts in such things like Scientists...but its hard as some of them work for Govts..and have swayed opinions..could be that they risk loosing their cred and job if they speak truth...

Govt may have too much control over too many things..

It just happens that a LOT of what A.J says relates to what I read in this book..

I have considered since that the book I read was wrote by the illuminati....even though it claims its against it..and claims to expose it...

but I could well imagine that it could be correct..

I only watch Euronews, while taking breakfast. It doesn't look much biased, although sometimes I can see that they are more suggesting something than reporting the news.

Besides that I listen to the news on the radio, so not much from that either.

If I could contact A.J..this is the main thing that I would ask him to prove ! in ref to such related things.

And that is something easily done, as there are thousands of people that know how to do it.

Maybe you did not read past threads /  posts about them..theres a few on PRC...

I have not reread to check their content..and there are videos that you would need to watch.. which you say you wont..

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=4977.0

I have a smart meter at home, they replaced the old one some two months ago, what concerns are there about them?

Don't think there is any easy answers to such things especially the complex ones...also it maybe that ones knowledge or  Intelligence for most / the majority may not be up to trying to determine the really complex things..thats a problem for nearly all of us..

Many of the Elite / high Govt are the top persons that's why they are in control...

That's one thing I don't like in the "conspiracy theory" area, when things do not appear to show that some theory is then there's always the old excuse of being "covered up", with no need for any evidence of that.

Somethings one may not have easy answers to..

I can only refer to things that I have heard the likes of A.J refer to if you did not watch his videos about it..

Some of the Elite either like to experiment with our DNA or they do it to make us weaker and give into them..by altering our hormones in males as an eg..to make us more feminised...we are no longer the agressive males we may once have been..ie so we are weakened..(some (Females) may suggest it may have advantages, depends upon ones view !)

The OTHER MAIN REASON is POPULATION CONTROL ...

TO REDUCE the male sperm count and stop us having too many children and alter our DNA of any future children..

By making the population Homosexual  there will be less children..

They have already reduced the likes of some European countries populations by economic means and now they are bringing in all the immigrants as the Euro populations are lower...

To someone who has seen this happen in ones lifetime... and is aware less children are now born.... and our own are now being replaced by other nations...some may suggest thats what is happening and that do now realize what has been going on..and may well dispise it..

I think if the NWO or there are some in power who want to create problems...that it is very possible that they have been trying to alter our Identities or gender levels..if not fully physically, maybe more mentally...
Why?

I do think its very possible Hitler may well of considered such a thing..and I do think that I did see something that referred to him doing so or his plans to do so...which was to find ways to target the enemies water supply and drop female hormones into it..

If A.Js  theories are correct .. he suggested that the Elite NWO brought Hitler into power and that wars are created for their financial gain...and WW2 was just one of their agendas..

Since Nukes were developed such wars no long occur so they now have other ways to create issues and new technology could offer then ultimate control...without war..

there are too many numerous possibilities to this that would be easy to try and determine if correct or not..

It was suggested that Hitler was aiming to do this ! so why stop after WW2....
See the problem with those type of sentences? You said "it was suggested that Hitler was aiming to do this", so it's not something confirmed, but your "why stop after WW2" suggests that it was a fact, so what started as suggestion is now talked about as a fact.

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In many a case the true facts are not known  or covered up or things are created to mislead..or hide the truth..


That's one thing I don't like in the "conspiracy theory" area, when things do not appear to show that some theory is then there's always the old excuse of being "covered up", with no need for any evidence of that.

sounds plausibly denied ArMaP , are you familiar with the term ?

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[astr0144]

They have now replaced the lighting in the back alley from where I live.. and at the moment it seems very much darker by far...and the lights appear as bright as they are on the streets..

I do not see them on that basis as being any better that the prior lamps...at the moment..

I know there were some photos posted to compare.....

Its hard to say if they were altered the image or photos light effects in the one showing the new LED lighting or to know if maybe they had increased the brightness  at  the time of the photo..

[Ellirium113]

All depends on the type of LEDs used. Some are a LOT brighter than others. Also depends on the pattern and type of beam they project.

[astr0144]

Yes I would think that there could be many variations of such LED lights of various brightness and design.

I suspect that they have a set of standards that they have to keep with certain limits for what ever environment / area that they are
inserted..

What I see at the moment with the ones just put in the back of the house is that the light does not spread out....it mainly is directed down into the Entry (back Alley isle)

The other lights shined onto the other houses opposite and into my back yard...

now most of that is or appears very dark..

To me at the moment it would be more of a attraction to burglars...

I may contact them tomorrow and discuss it..

Since they have been installed I will say that I have struggled to sleep and I have pains in my neck..and sometime head aches..
which Ive not had for some time..

So I have to hope they are not capable to doing some of the other things Alex Jones has talked about... such as if they do have cameras and can see thru a persons clothing similar to he described in the Airport scanners (where he says that they radiate people) I hope these are not doing something similar...

Im not sure if they did , how far or at what sort of distances the effects could occur..but it may be getting thru two House walls..from an estimated ditance between 50 to 100 feet away, which I would think unlikely..


In the Black Goo thread, I refer to someone whom I have been following in relation to that and some other connected things..

and he talks about many a person being Targeted in certain ways that effects there health / mind and mental state...and he refers to some people who have exposed many a related thing as having some very serious problems and being attacked on a regular basis.. maybe thru a microwave or radiation form...

So I do believe such things to be possible..

All depends on the type of LEDs used. Some are a LOT brighter than others. Also depends on the pattern and type of beam they project.

[Ellirium113]

Yes I would think that there could be many variations of such LED lights of various brightness and design.

I suspect that they have a set of standards that they have to keep with certain limits for what ever environment / area that they are
inserted..

I would think it has more to do with the budget they have to buy the lights

What I see at the moment with the ones just put in the back of the house is that the light does not spread out....it mainly is directed down into the Entry (back Alley isle)

The other lights shined onto the other houses opposite and into my back yard...

now most of that is or appears very dark..

To me at the moment it would be more of a attraction to burglars...

I may contact them tomorrow and discuss it..

This sounds like they just picked the wrong type of light for the area. This sounds like a spot light and not a wide area light.

Since they have been installed I will say that I have struggled to sleep and I have pains in my neck..and sometime head aches..
which Ive not had for some time..

Some LED lights emit more EMF than others...these might be excessive enough to affect you somehow.

So I have to hope they are not capable to doing some of the other things Alex Jones has talked about... such as if they do have cameras and can see thru a persons clothing similar to he described in the Airport scanners (where he says that they radiate people) I hope these are not doing something similar...

For one thing, any street light that has a camera will have the camera plainly visible. A stationary camera on a streetlight is pretty useless for tracking people. The cameras you are referring to in the airports are completely different. They are BIOMETRIC SCANNERS not simply cameras. These take your temperature, look in your clothing etc. A bit too pricey to throw on every street corner so you don't need to fear that.

Im not sure if they did , how far or at what sort of distances the effects could occur..but it may be getting thru two House walls..from an estimated ditance between 50 to 100 feet away, which I would think unlikely..

EMF is like wireless radiation...it is not affected much by walls unless it is concrete and lots of it.

In the Black Goo thread, I refer to someone whom I have been following in relation to that and some other connected things..

and he talks about many a person being Targeted in certain ways that effects there health / mind and mental state...and he refers to some people who have exposed many a related thing as having some very serious problems and being attacked on a regular basis.. maybe thru a microwave or radiation form...

So I do believe such things to be possible..

Yes pshychotronic warfare is quite real. I cover some of this here... http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=6818.0. There IS NO NEED to enhance street lights to have capability to mind control etc. The reason is they can already do all of this via HAARP, ELF towers and a variety of other methods including your cell phone.

[astr0144]

I think both design for the areas they install them may have to be considered....ie what type of housing areas, how close together they maybe as well as you would think cost considerations.

If they are being installed for genuine reasons to save money then as long as they are doing no one harm, I am ok with that..as long as they do what they should be designed to do...without loosing out on things such as the right amount of light and how that light is directed...and if it was to also include wifi..

But if there are found other issues that have been raised.. then that's a problem..

The question for me is how does one go about finding out for sure ?

I am trying to find some engineer who was initially opposed to them...to raise such concerns..to see if he maybe able to comment on such a thing..

I did call the department that deals with Street Lighting and asked did they warn the residents prior... and they said no we only warn you if it say effects utilities..such as Gas or Electric / water  or Roads...

I personally think they should have.. I think they started about 2 months ago in some other nearby localized area..

It maybe that they have installed the wrong lights...(Possibly more so in what maybe the more narrower alleys) at the rear sides to the houses..(although the roads at the front are 2 to 3 times wider than the back alleys) it maybe the actual distances between both the front and rear of two opposing houses is actually similar distances.. as they have longer back yards than the garden areas at the front..

So they may only have to change the Alley lights..if they should be a different design...in each alley.. (rather than all that would have included the front street lights as well.)

But I suspect highly that they wont..as that also will be quite an expense in labor..

If they have installed the wrong ones over a wide area...over 2 months... that would be expensive.. but Im surprised that they have not got it right after testing an initial similar area...unless they accidentally selected the wrong lights on this occasion.

I would think it has more to do with the budget they have to buy the lights.
This sounds like they just picked the wrong type of light for the area. This sounds like a spot light and not a wide area light.

On the EMF spectrum... Light is included...but Im not sure how LED may emit more unless in the more ultra violet side to it..

As Micowaves would appear have a lower EMF penetration and are said to be used to target peoples brains.... it would seem also Light can be..as it seems to have more penetration strength if that's the right term..

Thinking more about things.... on one wall it has  a large Glass window...so I suspect maybe more easily to penetrate...

then one main wall between where I usually reside in the house made of brick...I think two layers close together..with both sides plastered...but there is a front door (with some glass panels)then one wood door into the room I am usually in..

So it maybe that the EMF could maybe easily pass just two layers of wood ...

so you may be right..

Some LED lights emit more EMF than others...these might be excessive enough to affect you somehow.EMF is like wireless radiation...it is not affected much by walls unless it is concrete and lots of it.

I think that you would be right in what you say .. unless they have since or always had other forms of similar things built within the lighting that they installed..

It maybe possible that they have minute birds eye cameras within that can just observe. but maybe also there maybe a device that could create forms of radiation that could deliberately target our minds or health from a far...if within a set distance..   but so far I cannot see any thing obvious that shows any camera as such..or any other types of device.....

For one thing, any street light that has a camera will have the camera plainly visible. A stationary camera on a streetlight is pretty useless for tracking people. The cameras you are referring to in the airports are completely different. They are BIOMETRIC SCANNERS not simply cameras. These take your temperature, look in your clothing etc. A bit too pricey to throw on every street corner so you don't need to fear that.

I recall Jessie Ventura's conspiracy theory where some expert demonstrates a small device that he claimed effected his mind that I think was related to the Harrp episode...

I was not sure if it could actually make him do things he did not have control over ..or if it could really read his mind..

I think from a quick browse on your Monarch thread, that some of your posted articles suggest it can read ones mind..

I am not sure from what sort of distances...or how well..

if it can do it from most places and in detail... that is really a worst nightmare.

I would not know what to make of it...it would seem we are total slaves to them if they choose..

Yes pshychotronic warfare is quite real. I cover some of this here... http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=6818.0. There IS NO NEED to enhance street lights to have capability to mind control etc. The reason is they can already do all of this via HAARP, ELF towers and a variety of other methods including your cell phone.

I may try to obtain some form of leaflets or technical details about the lights..or even try to ask if I can see inside one at the depot if say that they have a broken one..

I really would like to see inside one to put my mind at ease and question about the possibilities of being effected by any form of radiation from them..

[ArMaP]

sounds plausibly denied ArMaP , are you familiar with the term ?

I am.

[ArMaP]

All depends on the type of LEDs used. Some are a LOT brighter than others. Also depends on the pattern and type of beam they project.

It also depends on the current that passes through the LEDs.