In the future, I’m right: Letter from Aldous Huxley to George Orwell over 1984

[The Matrix Traveller]

Hi "NewTheories",

Regarding that word "Faith"...

You are sort of right, or at least on the right path.   

In the writings you are referring to, the word "Faith", is more correctly translated
as Trust and NOT Blind Faith, lacking the knowledge required.

First we need "Knowledge", then we can Trust in that "Knowledge".

"Trust" can either be put in Incorrect knowledge, or Trust can be put in knowledge,
which is Correct.

We might know how to walk to a door, and open it, but if we lack Trust
in the "knowledge" of How to walk to and open that door, we are unable to perform
the task.

And if we don't have the "knowledge" of How to walk, or open that door we can't.

If we trust in the knowledge of How to walk to that door, and open it, then we have the ability,
to carry out the procedure, if we desire to.

Blind "Faith", serves no purpose, but instead is foolishness.

No matter how much we believe, in faulty knowledge, "Belief"
Can NOT change the Truth no matter what extent we believe to.

Re the seed....

A "Seed" is a Component of the "Fruit" in many cases, and an offspring of the Plant.

The "Center" comes from the "Outer" as it is a Component of the "Outer".

Yet the "Center" having NO Shape or Size, being Non-dimensional,
is of the same Nature of what ALL has come from, in that it is Also Non-dimensional.

Religions have take some of this knowledge and presenting it in Parable "Form",
so only the "Center" of the Mind shall understand.

It is only the True Mind (The REAL You) which knows it exists.
The Flesh knows nothing at all, it doesn't even know it exists, as the Flesh
is only the "Story", that which is being experienced by the True Mind (Center).

[The Matrix Traveller]

To really understand what produces the "STORY" we experience i.e. This World, Humanity
and the Universe we need to discover what is producing this.
All are victims of this unfolding History including myself.

IF the human race was in "Control" of what we are experiencing then I suspect
this world would be much different or we would now Not exist.

So what is all this Confrontation really about?

Is it just one group trying to convince or control another or the masses.

Or is this world about something entirely different, not discussed by the human species?

Most ask at some point in their Lives "What the Hell is All this really about?"

And many spend their lives trying to find out only to pretend in the end they understand.
But this understanding is Human and is Only Guess work as The Human Species isn't holding
all the cards in their Hands.

Is it all controlled by Aliens then???

NO.

So what the Hell is producing this (All) and Why?

I do have some answers which the whole Situation has come out of.

There is a Basic theme in the Root of The All.
But Nothing "Religious" about the principals involved, and purely involves a change
in the "Processing Construct", All is experienced through.

Because the First of All things that existed apart from "Awareness" was The "OPPOSITES",
and all that exists is Constructed using the "Opposites".

This is both a good thing and a Bad thing (these 2 are also Opposites).

So "Awareness" or LIFE had to take action, that is  IF LIFE
was going to be without experiencing Pain, Suffering, and Death etc.

So this involves the "Construct", All experiences are Manifested through.

The human Species is only the Story we are experiencing, and NOT LIFE itself.

The Species & Universe is the "Experience" but "The REAL Self" is LIFE
or a "Partition" of LIFE, experiencing the Story or "Experience".

It is astounding how so few Know their "Real Selves" i.e. LIFE itself.

But thankfully some of us are Awakening to this "Knowledge".

[hobbit]

There is the experience we have... and there is the reason for the experience we have. (Total Experience)

So what is the REAL purpose for our experience?

I mean what is the real function for this "Program" we call Earth?


Is it really about human development?

Or is it something quite different, not even discussed by the human species?

And are people even "Aware" of the reason for experiencing this little world?

We are here to experience, and crave novelty.
Your physical body is akin to a vehicle that the real You inhabits.
Via dreaming that is enabled by DMT You connect to Yourself in alternate dimensions.

I have had three way conversations going on all at once with the various Me's.
I sure do know a lot, but not the Me in the here and now.
My physical body is mostly only interested in staying above ground.
I am totally comfortable with all of this, and we all get on fine.

hobbit

[rdunk]

Regarding "faith", as has been mentioned here, I accept what God says in His Word, in what is called the "Bible". Hebrews 11:1 says "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen".

That is a scripture that many have seen and heard quoted. The "evidence of things not seen" part does seem to directly imply "blind faith", but that is not in fact the way I see it. The only real basis for "spiritual faith" is God's Word, and "Word based faith" is definitely not "blind", but stands in the power of God.

Hebrews 11:2, while not seen or heard discussed that much, is the "rest of that story"!! For it simply says, "For by it (it meaning faith) the elders obtained a good report". Now what does "obtained a good report" mean to you? To me, it does not mean the elders receives a good grade, or a good score, nor kind thank you's. To me it means the elders saw come to pass what they had "faith'ed for" ie, the "unseen evidence" of what they had "hoped for" came to pass". That is the "good report"! Specific examples of these "good reports" are individually mentioned and discussed in Hebrews 11:4-following (if anyone is interested).

While we are here at Hebrews 11, one other point that has far reaching implications, for all of us, in our understandings, as are being discussed in this thread.  Hebrews 11:3 records a specific element of our faith to our "understanding", relative to all that we "see". Hebrews 11:3 " Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that is all "things which are seen" were not made of things which do appear. That is a very powerful statement, and, to me very telling relative to the vast differences of perceptional opinion, of the humans of this "world". If everything that we see was spoken into existence, then how confused can we get, in trying to understand it all, down to the atom level, and below??

God spoke it all into existence, yet, we go to enormous extents to try to define and understand every thing about this universe. We may be wasting a lot of time, for no gain, in the real scheme of things, but, yet, all of us seem to have a plethora of differences in opinions, about how it all gets connected.

Just a little FYI, and I'm "just say'in" what "He said"!

[The Matrix Traveller]

Hi "rdunk",

Yes, I do go along with much you have written.

Here is something that may be of Interest?


Much of the Unseen became visible to me.

It is "The True Mind" that sees, and Not the Flesh.

Everyone wants the Flesh to be LIFE.   

But the Flesh is only a "Story" in a "Program Book" out of "The True Minds" Libraries.

The flesh serves to gain nothing at all.

Remember those dry bones seen in the desert; Ezekiel 37?


But it is "Awareness" or the LIFE which gains, as it is able to experience the Flesh
again re Ezekiel 37.

The Children of Israel, are Not the Human Species but "Partitions" of LIFE.

As is written, "Woe unto them that call themselves Jews and are Not."

This is because a Jew in the Correct sense of the word "Jew"
is Not a Human or any other Species.

The Jewish people adopted the Name after the True Jew which is Not of
A' DAM & EVE but instead of LIFE, Not the Flesh.


Not one single part of the "Human Species" (Flesh or Body) knows anything.

Check out any "Component" of your Flesh, and see if it even knows it exists.   


Only "Awareness" is Aware, that is why it is called "Awareness".   

"The Real You" is "Awareness" i.e. a "Partition" of LIFE.


The "Flesh" is called Flesh and is Not called "Awareness".


The Children of Israel is Not referring to Israel, on the Earth as most think,
for what is Plainly in your Sight is ZION.

The Carpenter said, "Recognize what is in your Sight."


Israel in the middle East, was named after Israel which is a Component
of the "Processing Construct" of what some refer to as the Soul,
Not the Spirit.

The Soul and Spirit are 2 Different "Components".

The Spirit is the "Character" of LIFE which Lives in The Soul.

The "Soul" is a Body, i.e. The "Processing Construct" ALL is Manifested through.

"The WORD of God" is the Written ZION Language and Not Hebrew.

Many believe the bible is the word of God, but it isn't at all, it is a witness to "The WORD of God" in Parable form.

As is written in "The Gospel According to John" Ch. 1 verse 1 to 13.

Where the WORD is; G  O  D. or in Greek, the Letters "Gama Omega Delta"
(Not the Translation).

If we Convert these Letters to the ZION Language.

The "Gama" becomes a Square Frame (2 "Gama" one opposite
to the other superimposed on the first forming the Square.)

The "Omega" becomes like a Circle with 4 little diagonal bars
(2 "Omega" one opposite to the other)
and
The "Delta" becomes a 6 Pointed Star, (The Star of DAVID)
( 2 Delta one opposite and superimposed on the first to the other forming the Star.)

Put these together and we get a 6 Pointed Star ("The Star of DAVID") inside a Circle
with 4 little diagonal Lines, connected to the 4 Corners of a Square Frame
which these, the "Star" in the Circle  are inside.


This Language is "The Program Language" of "The True Mind" which is unspoken,
as it is a "Geometric Language".

Like "The washing of the hands and feet", in Greek, is "Nu Iota Zeta Omega",
the Same lettering as in "Zeta Iota Omega Nu", (ZION)
which since has been removed from the Greek Language by the Scribes.

The Carpenter said to Thomas, Quote;

39. Jesus said,
"The Pharisees and the Scribes

have taken THE KEYS of KNOWLEDGE
and HIDDEN THEM.

They themselves have NOT entered,
nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to.

You, however, be as wise as serpents
and as innocent as doves."

To understand, we First need to recognize the ZION Language
(Not the written Hebrew which is much much different)

Remember ZIN and Moses?

ZIN is a Part of the word ZION. (Leave out the "Omega" written here,
as "O" and we get ZIN)   


The upper case Lettering used in the Original Greek text actually represents
the "Geometric Language" and to understand the writings, we need to know
this Language. (ZION)

The Greek ION Language, was a new Language which used some of the "Glyphs"
(Sometimes Half the original "Glyph" form) from the ZION Language.

Hence the 2 Languages;

1.    ZION
and
2.    ION

Note in the Title ION the "Z" has been Dropped...

Z or "Zeta" in ZION; means LIFE.

This is why The Carpenter was shown in ancient Mosaics as having the Letter "Z"
on His Gown.

"Zeta Alpha Omega" in ION Greek means LIFE.
as well as "Zeta Omega Omega means" LIFE too.

Perhaps the Scribes at that time had a hand in doing this to indicate that LIFE
was Left out, of the written ION Greek Language?

But it is important to remember these writings are a Parable
for "The True Mind" and Not the Flesh as the Flesh is already dead.

As the Carpenter said "Let the Dead bury the Dead."

He also was reported to say to Thomas, Quote;

49. Jesus said,

"Blessed are the Solitary and Elect,
for you will find The Kingdom.

For you are from it, and to it you will return."

50. Jesus said,

If they say to you, "Where did you come from?"

say to them,

"We came  from The Light, the place where The Light came into being on Its own accord
and established Itself and became manifest through their Image."

If they say to you, "Is it you?"

say, "We are its children, and we are the elect of The Living Father."

If they ask you, "What is the sign of your Father in you?"

say to them, "It is Movement and Repose."

and

56. Jesus said,

"Whoever has come to understand the World has found only a corpse,

and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the World."[/b]

And Lastly Quote;

84. Jesus said,
"When you See your likeness, you rejoice.

But when you See Your Images which came into being Before You,

and which neither DIE nor become manifest,

how much you will have to Bear!"

[NewTheories]

Hi "rdunk",

And Lastly Quote;

84. Jesus said,
"When you See your likeness, you rejoice.

But when you See Your Images which came into being Before You,

and which neither DIE nor become manifest,

how much you will have to Bear!"

Is that saying without the Soul Metamorphosis, that would be the case?.

[undo11]

Now modern preachers will tell you that is just an analogy meaning you should have faith...

No he meant it LITERALLY, because here is another quote from Mathew

Matthew 21:
18
     When he was going back to the city in the morning, he was hungry.
19
    Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went over to it, but found nothing on it except leaves. And he said to it, "May no fruit ever come from you again." And immediately the fig tree withered.
20
    When the disciples saw this, they were amazed and said, "How was it that the fig tree withered immediately?"
21
    17 Jesus said to them in reply, "Amen, I say to you, if you have faith and do not waver, not only will you do what has been done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, 'Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,' it will be done.
22
    Whatever you ask for in prayer with faith, you will receive."

if the application is only literal this means just having enough clout to screw people over is the same thing.  let's say you want to do the wild thang with some hot babe, and she isn't interested.  you could have her forcibly sterilized and call it faith.  you could have her breasts removed and force her into early menopause (they do that to female christians in africa, to keep them from reproducing).  that tree dries up in a hurry.

no, i think it's more than literal.  if you could pronounce curses and blessings on whomever and have them happen instantly, as in the literal sense of giving someone a hysterectomy, lobotomy or castration, how does that differ in the least, from just going around poking people in the eye, shooting them in the foot, or hanging them till dead,  when you don't like them?

why would he (jesus) spend so much time talking about how important love was, and then suddenly, and out of nowhere, claim you could abuse anything just because.... you can.  it doesn't make a bit of sense to me to suggest it is a literal interpretation.  too many people are more than happy to disenfranchise each other of their worldly or bodily possessions, to suggest it is some big spiritual secret.

i mean, if you have some rationale for how it would differ, even remotely, let me know, cause from this vantage point, it reads the same old same old as just going out and hacking people up with chainsaws or beheadings.

to me it just sounds like he's saying that trees produce fruit spiritually as well as physically.  a tree that doesn't produce spiritual fruit is not the same thing as a tree that doesn't produce eggs or sperm or some hormone.   compleeeeetely different thing.  least, i think so, just based on the rest of his info.   and that passage sounds like it's saying if the tree doesn't produce spiritual fruit, it doesn't feed anyone.  if it doesn't feed anyone, it's not a spiritual tree.  ya know?  and by feed, it doesn't mean literal food but spiritual food. 

[The Matrix Traveller]

Hi NewTheories

84. Jesus said,
"When you See your likeness, you rejoice.

But when you See Your Images which came into being Before You,

and which neither DIE nor become manifest,

how much you will have to Bear!"

The Images which came into being, before the "Human Species" or any other "Species"
in this Program, (Universe/s) refers to what was before any worlds other than
"The Main Frame Construct" Produced by "The Real You" (a "Partition" of LIFE,
or "The All".) i.e. LIFE and NOT Flesh which is the "Story", LIFE Experiences.

LIFE is the Most Precious of ALL as without LIFE we can do nothing at all.

If we LOVE LIFE we will never do harm to ourselves, anyone else.

When we withdraw from this Program, (universe) we discover that our experience was a "Story",
and we discover once again, WHAT "The Real Self" really is, as the Images
of the Universe fades, and the Images we then see, are of the "Construct"
some refer to as the Soul, (NOT the Interpretation as understood today)
LIFE Resides or Dwells IN.

I am NOT guessing about these things, as I was reported by medical staff
to be "Brain Dead" for more than 30 minutes in August 1973, but to me
I was more alive during this period, (30 minutes +) than I had ever been before.

From that day I was no longer a member of any religious order, no longer having to adopt
blind belief, but rather have trust in what I had discovered, and recognize
what these ancient writings were really about.

This is much different, than what is taught by any religious groups today.

[NewTheories]

I was a bit confused with that verse, but your reply cleared it up.

In a way Jesus could have actually been meaning in a good way then as well, when he says "how much you will have to Bear".

Because it is a Plus not a Negative to be back in the "Matrix" or "The Main Frame Construct", kind of like going home or a "home from home".

[The Matrix Traveller]

Hi "NewTheories",

In a way Jesus could have actually been meaning in a good way then as well,
when he says "how much you will have to Bear".

Now you are onto it... 

To bear refers to how much we will have to Contain! A huge amount 

Through the Human Species we always seem to FEAR the Worst.

But the "Flesh" is as though the Opposite to LIFE.

In tat the "Flesh" is The Story and "The Real You" i.e. LIFE
is the One experiencing the "Flesh", or "Story".

[rdunk]

if the application is only literal this means just having enough clout to screw people over is the same thing.  let's say you want to do the wild thang with some hot babe, and she isn't interested.  you could have her forcibly sterilized and call it faith.  you could have her breasts removed and force her into early menopause (they do that to female Christians in Africa, to keep them from reproducing).  that tree dries up in a hurry.

no, i think it's more than literal.  if you could pronounce curses and blessings on whomever and have them happen instantly, as in the literal sense of giving someone a hysterectomy, lobotomy or castration, how does that differ in the least, from just going around poking people in the eye, shooting them in the foot, or hanging them till dead,  when you don't like them?

why would he (Jesus) spend so much time talking about how important love was, and then suddenly, and out of nowhere, claim you could abuse anything just because.... you can.  it doesn't make a bit of sense to me to suggest it is a literal interpretation.  too many people are more than happy to disenfranchise each other of their worldly or bodily possessions, to suggest it is some big spiritual secret.

i mean, if you have some rationale for how it would differ, even remotely, let me know, cause from this vantage point, it reads the same old same old as just going out and hacking people up with chainsaws or beheadings.

...
undo11, the possible actions you mentioned relative to "screwing people over" are acts of the "flesh", and thus are not "acts of faith". The resulting reality of an act of faith is by definition a "spiritual event", brought about by believing that God will act in accordance with what he says/promises in his word. 

Not understanding the real basis of faith makes it difficult for most people to truly apply the faith Jesus was teaching, relative to the fig tree. Think of God's word as being "the helm of faith" (my term). Move the helm, the ship turns. If we don't move the helm, nothing happens. God's words are the "helm moving tools". It is faith, in God's word, that "moves the helm"!

Now consider this - yes, Gods word is made up of all of the scriptures in the book we call the Bible. But that is just the printed word. God is a Spirit, and his words are spiritual, and are any and everywhere, just like the oxygen we breath. Just one scripture to substantiate this as fact is Hebrews 4:12:

New International Version (NIV)
12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

"The word of God is alive", and active! When asked, God said "I am". Well, his word "is"! And God does intend for his words to "dwell in us". Our faith (in his words) is the substance of things hoped for, our and faith (in his words) is the evidence of things not seen. (Heb 11:1) Spiritual faith has "substance", and spiritual faith has "evidence".

What that simply means is, speak to whatever "the mountain is", and tell it what to do, on the basis of God's word, and "know in faith", it is going to move.

Undo11, I am no "expert" on this, but God is! I have tried to help you with your questions and thoughts as plainly as I could.. I hope this helps you a little!