Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!

Started by astr0144, June 18, 2016, 03:51:24 PM

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astr0144

Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!

This I think may be hard to believe if true..and to many..it may seem totally unacceptable..

or are they  suggesting,  we been led to believe it to be wrong to sexualise children in the last 100 years or what ever.. as it no doubt would have gone on in past generations when there was no such laws..

It may however be incorrect as its wrote by what seems a Jewish news website..


Booklets from a subsidiary of the German government's Ministry for Family Affairs encourage parents to sexually massage their children as young as 1 to 3 years of age. Two 40-page booklets entitled "Love, Body and Playing Doctor" by the German Federal Health Education Center (Bundeszentrale für gesundheitliche Aufklärung – BZgA) are aimed at parents – the first addressing children from 1-3 and the other children from 4-6 years of age.



"Fathers do not devote enough attention to the clitoris and vagina of their daughters. Their caresses too seldom pertain to these regions, while this is the only way the girls can develop a sense of pride in their sex," reads the booklet regarding 1-3 year olds. The authors rationalize, "The child touches all parts of their father's body, sometimes arousing him. The father should do the same."

Why do some people still vote for these scumbags? Next time we must all vote our local NATIONALIST (extreme right) Political Party to restore normality.
Canadian author and public speaker Michael O'Brien who has written and spoken extensively about the crisis of culture in the West spoke to LifeSiteNews.com about the shocking and extremely disturbing phenomenon. It is, he said, "State-encouraged incest, which in most civilized societies is a crime." The development is, he suggests, a natural outcome of the rejection of the Judeo-Christian moral order.

"The imposed social revolution that has swept the western world is moving to a new stage as it works out the logical consequences of its view of man's value," said O'Brien. "It is merely obeying its strictly materialist philosophy of man. If man is no more than a creature created for pleasure or power. If he is no more than a cell in the social organism, then no moral standards, no psychological truths, no spiritual truths can refute the 'will to power' and the 'will to pleasure'."

The pamphlet advises parents to permit young children "unlimited masturbation" except where physical injury becomes apparent. It advises: "Children should learn that there is no such thing as shameful parts of the body. The body

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2015/11/28/germany-and-eu-to-legalize-pedophilia-and-with-it-child-pornography-as-well/

Eighthman

I think this sort of horror is inevitable if corrupt neoliberalism continues in the West - and it will be encouraged by the 1% many of whom enjoy molesting children.  They are hollow soulless people and have nothing else.

Maybe it's for the best that the birthrate in these nations is so low.  They may not deserve children !

ArMaP

Old story, even from your link, as that's from last year. That November 2015 article has as source another article from October 2015, that has as source an eutimes.net article from 2009, about something that happened in 2007, as this spiegel.de article says, and, apparently, the booklet was published in 2001.

Not one of the articles in the whole series of sources of sources of sources points to any place where we can see as proof of Germany and EU legalizing paedophilia.

It's just the typical "big bad X is going to do Y, be afraid".

Eighthman

So you are saying that the German government ACTUALLY published a booklet that contains the paragraph beginning with the word, "Fathers......."

If true, I find your reply simply astounding.  I would hardly know how to reply tactfully.

Dyna


QuoteNot one of the articles in the whole series of sources of sources of sources points to any place where we can see as proof of Germany and EU legalizing paedophilia.

It's just the typical "big bad X is going to do Y, be afraid".

From your link
QuoteThe Federal Ministry for Family Affairs has removed the brochure "Body, Love, Doctor games" from his repertoire. At the Cologne public prosecutor had previously received an indication - the applicant finds the advice ambiguous and doubtful.
[/quote]
Quotethroughout Germany a total of 650,000 books were distributed, they went to nursery schools, family education centers, pediatricians - and are there well today. In addition, the Guides were countless times from the BZgA websites downloaded. Because of the criticism but was agreed with the Ministry of the Family, not to spread the PDFs of the guide on.


The fact is that child molestation crushed the soul. Many even where the actions are so accepted like
Hollywood, commit suicide. The people who don't care about the innocent children will someday get what they deserve and anyone who feels that this is ok is a monster in my book.
When the debate is lost,
slander becomes the tool of the loser.
Socrates

astr0144

I think that is the 1st article that I have ever come across to suggest such a extreme thing..be it recent or past..

Had anyone or many come across such a thing in the past I wonder ?

Its a good observation and bit of research you made ArMaP ...

I had not managed to do such checks at the time it was posted..

I am surprised  your investigation related to 2007 or 2001...

If so had much been suggested in the past that maybe we had not been aware about... or is it just fake info..

Do you speak German ? ...as the article that your link goes to seems to be so  unless one has a translation option.

I have to agree it would seem unlikely to be true and extreme if they had or have or aim to bring it in..

but then again we are seeing so many things lately that seem hard to accept or believe.. that we have been or are slowly being fed.. that the next extreme thing, may then not seem as concerning as maybe it should be....we are seeing quite a few things either in the media or as conspiracies that relate to certain sexual things..or pedophilia ...that we may never have imagined. or believed. Jimmy Saville as an eg..or the LGTB toilet issues ...

so I would not count such a thing out if there are truths to some of the things that the likes of David Ikce and Alex Jones have talked about.. yes some of their conspiracies have become true Facts. or appear to have done so...trust them or not !

They have also said on numerous occasions that many in the establishments are involved in Pedophilia..before and after Saville..

So based upon their exposure of Saville , I would not count out them being wrong !... along with much of the corruption that they appear to have exposed..be it 9/11 or the corrupt banking systems.. that I do think I agree with..as well as the present issues arising with migration ...

That they seem to be using to replace many existing European populations for cheaper labor..(or to replace those euro workers who will not accept some of the lower paid work) or that it may be reducing wages.. or replacing even many a professional qualified positions with some of the more qualified migrants..there are so many positions in the Television media alone now becoming a coloured or other race..

It maybe more difficult for the original white races to easily accept..and seen as an increasing threat..

and will be if we go into any further recession and less jobs..


That I am sure we have many of our own good existing  people being replaced..It is making competition even more extreme.. than it need have been..for all initial  existing populace at all levels..

(But at the same time..in other ways that's not to say they do not make benefits ) but upon watching a program about it the other day.. the Govt admitted some of it was to replace jobs original populace would not accept to keep the taxes coming in..
(That admittedly we all benefit from)


The person who I obtained the article from has had some others comment and someone posted another article..

but even if this suggest the opposite, we may not really know for sure..

http://www.snopes.com/exploitation-nation/

QuoteCLAIM:Germany and the rest of the European Union are legalizing pedophilia.


FALSE
EXAMPLE: [Collected via email, November 2015]

I just saw something incredibly alarming claiming Germany and some other EU countries are going to legalize pedophilia--is this possible?

ORIGINS: In the 1980s, Germany's Green Party co-leader, Jürgen Trittin, released an election pamphlet lobbying to legalize sex between children and adults.  It also actively promoted the agenda of pedophile groups.  The support for legalized pedophilia officially ended in 1990, and Green Party officials, by all accounts, tried to permanently distance themselves from it.

Trittin has said that his party's stance on pedophilia was intended to shock and push back against Germany's criminalization of homosexuality (Paragraph 175, which was ended in 1994.)   He told members of the press in 2013,

"In the founding phase of the Greens, gay and lesbian groups were campaigning to reverse discrimination of a kind you can hardly imagine today.

The impetus for liberalisation and decriminalisation overshot its target. And it overshot, because there was the fiction that - beyond violence and the abuse of a relationship of trust — there could be sexual relations between adults and children."

The story has been in headlines in recent months after an internal investigation by Germany's Green Party concluded that the group, in the 1980s, did, in fact, support the country's "pedosexual movement," which advocated for "consensual relations" between adults and children (not dissimilar to other groups in Europe and North America, such as the North American Man/Boy Love Association, or NAMBLA, which still has a high-profile presence in the United States.) Members of the Green Party apologized to victims of past sexual abuse for trivializing their experiences.

An unrelated pamphlet, first published in 2001, has been cited as evidence that Germany is legalizing pedophilia, as it advocates, among other things, that parents "tickle, caress, and kiss the child in various places while it is being cleaned."  In fact, it was part of a push for early childhood sex education.  The pamphlet was written by Ina-Marie Phillips and distributed by Germany's Federal Center for Health Education (BZgA). 

The offending passages, argue supporters, have been taken out of context and are an attempt to help parents and children identify the difference between normal touches and cuddling and sexual abuse.  However, the pamphlet was out of print as of 2007.

It is worth noting that Germany today has some of the most groundbreaking treatment for pedophiles in the world, with its national "Don't Offend" network and campaign.  Its treatment is aimed at active prevention of child sex abuse rather than punishment after the fact, giving potential abusers therapy and support.


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QuoteOld story, even from your link, as that's from last year. That November 2015 article has as source another article from October 2015, that has as source an eutimes.net article from 2009, about something that happened in 2007, as this spiegel.de article says, and, apparently, the booklet was published in 2001.

Not one of the articles in the whole series of sources of sources of sources points to any place where we can see as proof of Germany and EU legalizing paedophilia.

It's just the typical "big bad X is going to do Y, be afraid".


ArMaP

Quote from: Eighthman on June 18, 2016, 06:45:33 PM
So you are saying that the German government ACTUALLY published a booklet that contains the paragraph beginning with the word, "Fathers......."
I don't know if you are addressing me, but I can guarantee you that the booklet didn't have that English sentence, and that, apparently, was part of the problem, as it's easy to manipulate a translation to sound like we want it to and present it as something different.

astr0144

This is maybe another related article..

But later seems to deny there is truth to it..I think ..

We cannot prove having sex with Children does them any harm..says deranged liberal Scumbag Free patriot post..


https://lockerdome.com/freepatriotpost/8811992521683732

EVIDENCE has emerged that the views of the Pedophile Information Exchange influenced policy-making at the National Council for Civil Liberties when it was run by former Labor Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt.

PIE members were lobbying NCCL officials for the age of consent to be reduced and campaigning for "paedophile love".Their view that children were not harmed by having sex with adults appears to have been adopted by those at the top of the civil liberties group.
Today we publish extracts from an NCCL report written for the Criminal Law Revision Committee in 1976 when Mrs Hewitt was general secretary.



It says: "Where both partners are aged 10 or over, but under 14, a consenting sexual act should not be an offence. As the age of consent is arbitrary, we propose an overlap of two years on either side of 14.

"Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult result in no identifiable damage.

"The Criminal Law Commission should be prepared to accept the evidence from follow-up research on child 'victims' which show there is little subsequent effect after a child has been 'molested'.



"The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of paedophilia result in lasting damage.

"The present legal penalties are too high and reinforce the misinformation and prejudice. The duty of the court should be to inquire into all the relevant circumstances with the intention, not of meting out severe punishment, but of determining the best solution in the interests of both child and paedophile."

Mrs Hewitt, 65, was general secretary between 1974 and 1983. After days of intense pressure, the former Labour MP for Leicester West finally admitted last week the NCCL was "naive and wrong" over its ties to PIE


She said: "Any suggestion that I supported or condoned the vile crimes of child abusers is completely untrue."As the NCCL archives demonstrate, I consistently distinguished between consenting relationships between homosexual men, on the one hand, and the abuse of children on the other.
"When Jack Dromey, as NCCL chairman in 1976, vigorously opposed PIE at the NCCL AGM, he did so with the full support of the executive committee and myself as general secretary."

However Labour MP Dromey's opposition to PIE has been questioned by its former chairman, convicted paedophile Tom O'Carroll, who claims he felt "welcome" at NCCL meetings where he sat on the gay rights sub-committee.


Mr O'Carroll said: "While they did not like PIE and did nothing to support our objectives, they were afraid of appearing insufficiently 'right on'.

"Consequently they were nothing like as strenuous and public in their efforts to distance themselves from PIE as they are now claiming.

"Dromey is quoted as saying 'I was at the forefront of repeated public condemnations of PIE and their despicable views'. That's news to me. Maybe by 'public' he meant imprecations muttered to cronies at his local pub."

Dromey's wife Harriet Harman, deputy leader of the Labour party, was legal officer at the NCCL between 1978 and 1982. She has expressed her "regret" over the NCCL's involvement with PIE but has pointedly declined to apologize.

http://extremelynewsworthy.com/archives/127199

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on June 18, 2016, 10:03:40 PM
This is maybe another related article..
If it's about a situation in the UK then it's not related, as that booklet was distributed in Germany and Switzerland.

astr0144

The article may relate to the booklet,

but also the title of the tread also relates to the EU as well as  Germany..


QuoteIf it's about a situation in the UK then it's not related, as that booklet was distributed in Germany and Switzerland.

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on June 18, 2016, 10:22:14 PM
The article may relate to the booklet,

but also the title of the tread also relates to the EU as well as  Germany..
The title is a hoax, there are no signs of either Germany or the EU legalizing paedophilia, much less child pornography.

Eighthman

The responses given to this story appear to be stunningly qualified and lacking a full explanation for something shocking.  It begins with 'no effort to LEGALIZE pedophilia' as opposed to an apparent effort to get acceptance for it!  i can imagine a criminal saying, 'the charges are false, I didn't murder anyone at that time or place............"

It is difficult to imagine how inaccurate translation could account for the 'Fathers' comment.  I think it's gonna have to be a complete fraud, a fake outright .  Comments made from Greens sound  rankly disingenuous.

It is similarly hard for me to imagine how any professional or public figure can espouse opinions in favor of pedophilia without having their careers justly ruined - but then again, starting pointless wars and concealing massive sexual assaults in parts of Europe don't seem much bother either. 

astr0144

I just hope that you are right..

But as mentioned by myself and Eighthman in our further comments... there maybe reasons to suggest that it maybe or may become possible..

and we may wonder how far they may be trying to push us or get us to accept..


Quote from: ArMaP on June 18, 2016, 10:27:45 PM
The title is a hoax, there are no signs of either Germany or the EU legalizing paedophilia, much less child pornography.

ArMaP

Quote from: Eighthman on June 18, 2016, 10:28:26 PM
The responses given to this story appear to be stunningly qualified and lacking a full explanation for something shocking.  It begins with 'no effort to LEGALIZE pedophilia' as opposed to an apparent effort to get acceptance for it!  i can imagine a criminal saying, 'the charges are false, I didn't murder anyone at that time or place............"
There was no effort to get acceptance for paedophilia. The booklet was removed because it had parts that were "misleading (or unclear) and ambiguous" (all the translators I used gave me that), and some people thought it could be used as an excuse for paedophile actions.

QuoteIt is difficult to imagine how inaccurate translation could account for the 'Fathers' comment.  I think it's gonna have to be a complete fraud, a fake outright .  Comments made from Greens sound  rankly disingenuous.
Are you used to make translations? If you are you know what I'm talking about.

QuoteIt is similarly hard for me to imagine how any professional or public figure can espouse opinions in favor of pedophilia without having their careers justly ruined - but then again, starting pointless wars and concealing massive sexual assaults in parts of Europe don't seem much bother either.
Probably because nobody was espousing opinions in favour of paedophilia.