Security of Infrastructure in America (Can apply to other countries as well)

[Pimander]

The intelligence infrastructure can put out something like Operation Bluebook to simply turn public opinion in a different direction which then affects the way serious researchers are perceived in the public realm.  It's about perception.

Precisely.  It is the perception of UFOs that has been manipulated.

the Panel suggested the Air Force should begin a "debunking" effort to reduce "public gullibility" and demystify UFO reports. The panel suggested a public relations campaign, using psychiatrists, astronomers and assorted celebrities to significantly reduce public interest in UFO's. It was also recommended that the mass media be used for the debunking, including influential media giants like Walt Disney Corporation.

Their formal recommendation stated "That the national security agencies take immediate steps to strip the Unidentified Flying Objects of the special status they have been given and the aura of mystery they have unfortunately acquired."

Also recommended that the government monitor civilian groups studying or researching UFO's "because of their potentially great influence on mass thinking ... the apparent irresponsibility and possible use of such groups for subversive purposes should be kept in mind."

http://www.nicap.org/waves/1953_robertson_panel.htm

The problem is that opinion has been manipulated is different directions for purposes other than the one intended in the Robertson report - in my deeply considered opinion.

[zorgon]

Honestly, I'm not invested in who he may have been, only what he had to say about life and "reality".

i am with you on that BUT knowing WHO he is/was is very important in this case. because the 'reality' may be that Sir Francis Bacon is an IMORTAL, one that also goes by the name of "the Professor", the Count de St germain" and several others.  It ois one of the projects I have been working on. It traces back to romanian and certain Mystery schools and was the basis that led to the Dracula stories

The "Professor" was one of the small group of men responsible for the creation of the USA. He along with Voltaire and Ben jamin frankling were the first conspirators to begin the process that led to the USA

The professor is also credited with being the man that made the 'Speech of the unknow" that hardened the Forefathers to sign that declaration. They were faltering until that speech ( I have all this on the website)

Sir Francis Bacon was in thick with the Elizabetahn Royal Court, and that he was Shakespeare has recently been almost 100% accepted.

He also editted the King James version of the Bible.

There is a Star Trek episode called the "Squire of Gothos" that pretty much covers the same theme. The Squire in Star Trek was Beethoven, Shakespeare and many other characters in history...  So the writers of Star Trek were following the same line of the search for the Immortal Cout St Germaine..

It has led me to many obscure and fasinating books, many of which I still need to work into the scheme of things

I am still seeking THIS book



SO!

Then in the way the Universe works for me Today I find a high resolution scan of this book

Woohoo!! Dragon power RULES!!!

[zorgon]

The Wyvern that Germain uses is also on my shield  And emblem I chose long before I heard of him

[zorgon]

Helena P. Blavatsky writes: 'Count St. Germain was certainly the greatest Oriental Adept Europe has seen during the last centuries. Madame Blavatsky mentions a "Cypher Rosicrucian Manuscript" in St. Germain's possession. The Triangular Book is such a manuscript of Solomonic magic, under the sigil of the Dragon. The Latin word draco is(dráken, gazer). The Triangular Book is just such a cypher manuscript, which opens with a Dragon emblem.





The Squire of Gothos.. Beethoven



I will move these posts to the Myustic Section later today as we got off topic

[Pimander]

He also editted the King James version of the Bible.

And you still get people basing their lives on the errors that they made today.

William Smedley exhibited remarkable insight into Bacon mind and objectives..... "...there was only one writer of the period [Francis Bacon] who was capable of turning the phrases with that matchless style which is the great charm of the Shakespeare plays.  Whoever that stylist was, it was to him that James handed over the manuscripts, which he received from the translators.  That man made havoc of much of the translation, but he produced a result which, on its literary merits, is without equal."
http://www.sirbacon.org/Mather_KJV/Bacon_KJV.html


The word genius is something you hear erroneously applied to many.  In the case of Franny Bacon not so.

[zorgon]

I will split this shortly but I am running down new leads Everytime I relook at a topic, I do get new info... like the triangle book that went online in 2012... ( I am going to print it on parchment and bind it in leather

Bacon & The Rose Cross
by James Phinney Baxter (1831-1921)
[From his book: "The Greatest of Literary Problems, the authorship of the Shakespeare Works; an exposition of all the points at issue, from their inception to the present moment" 1915]



http://www.crcsite.org/bacon.htm

[zorgon]

next book on my want list



http://www.sirbacon.org/mcompeer2.htm

This passage...

Esquire means Mr. So the name becomes Mr. N.N. Curiously on the original Rosicrucian Manifesto, N.N. is listed as one of the Rosicrucian Brothers. In any case, whoever N. N. was, the gentleman took great liberties with the text of Boccalini's work. He was particularly original in his treatment of the 77th Advertisement. Apollo selects a committee to devise a plan for the reformation of human society, and N.N. Esquire lists the secretary for Apollo's committee as Sir Francis Bacon. Obviously, Bacon's Freemason compeers were still quite active in England at this time.

Three publications appeared in Germany in 1614, 1615, and 1616 respectively. These are really the only evidence for the existence of the Rosicrucian Fraternity. All later writings about the Rosicrucian Fraternity were merely reactions to these original three publications. In fact, the 1616 pamphlet seems to have been in reaction also to the 1614 and 1615 publications. The three Rosicrucian publications were as follows:

1. A short pamphlet in German, published in Cassel, Germany in 1614 by Wilhelm Wessel (printer for prince Maurice, Landgrave of Hesse),entitled, Fame Fraternity, or a Discovery of The Most Noble Order of The Rosy Cross (hereafter referred to as The Fama).
2. Another short pamphlet published at the same place by the same printer in 1615, entitled The Confession of the Rosicrucian Fraternity (hereafter referred to as The Confession).

3. A third, much longer publication of quite a different type, published in Strasburg, Germany in 1616, entitled The ChemicalWedding of Christian Rosy Cross (hereafter referred to as The Chemical Wedding).

That book, the Chemical Wedding... it basically THE source manefesto for the modern chapter of the rosicrucians (as opposed to the Traditional Egyptian beggining.  So it seems the bacon wrote that one too

[zorgon]

THE CHILD'S OWN LOSSES
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/01archives/ChildsOwnLosses.html

Signing the Declaration of Independence
The Speech of the Unknown
http://www.reversespins.com/signthatdocument.html

[Pimander]

Bacon was allegedly Queen Elizabeth "The Virgin Queen"'s Son. 

http://www.sirbacon.org/links/parentage.htm

Here is Mum to be in a maternity dress in a portrait at Hampton Court.


ETA:  Yes split the thread. This is way off topic even for peggy. The other members probably think we are crazy.  LOL

[spacemaverick]

I think it did creep off topic but it has been interesting.  Sometimes rabbit trails turn into interesting subjects.

[RUSSO]

Okay
so  show me one document that confirms aliens

Just ONE there are hundreds of thousands on UFO's but a UFO can be a garbage bag

So show me the ones that are NOT circumstantial and veryfy aliens

Thanks in advance

You ask for confirmation, but I ask you, what is confirmation for you?

An official military document from a foreign country is enough confirmation?

Military reports addressed to Brig. Gervasio Duncan and Gen.  Moacyr Uchoa describing UFOs flight and landing in the states of Rio Grande  do Sul and Rio de Janeiro, including a UFO chasing aircraft and sightings of  2-meter tall beings beside their spacecraft in the city of Belo Horizonte (MG).

Report from the Division of Security Information of the 2nd Air Zone Command on the spotting of UFOs by radars in the region of Varginha (MG). It also contains an official report sent to the Air Force Command on the sighting of a large flying saucer with several windows over Presidente Dutra highway.

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/Brazil/CENDOC_ENVELOPE_02_1971.pdf

Or maybe you should listen to this men(that i have the honor to meet before his supposed "suicide"):

The Colares flap refers to an outbreak of UFO sightings that occurred in 1977 on the Brazilian Island of Corales. During the outbreak, the UFOs allegedly attacked the citizens with intense beams of radiation that left burn marks and puncture wounds. These sightings led to the Brazilian government dispatching a team to investigate under the codename Operation Saucer (Portuguese: Operação Prato), but the government later recalled the team and classified the files until the late 1990s.

UFO Photographed by Military Personnel during "Operation Prato"


http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/MUFON/Pratt/prato.pdf

Some examples of the official documents:





A "Vampire" UFO victim:

"Above are the reconstitution of the cylindrical object commonly called Chupa-chupa. We described the presence of two figures similar to sighted humans through a window. In detail: the same photo, 1978, without mount."

illustrations drawn by Hollanda depicting the Alien entity

You can read a very good summary, with links, pictures, draws of the official documents here: http://ufo-blogg.blogspot.com.br/2012/04/colares-brazil-ufo-invasion-1977.html

Its not just circumstantial, to me this IS proof.

But hey, documents are not from USA government so i think you will dismiss it right?

[RUSSO]

But all those files are just stories  i DO notice that since they are sequentially numbered reports, there are a lot of numbers in the series  So I would ASSUME that all those government released files from around the world are pretty much useless because they didn't release the good stuff

More good suff:

One of the most important footages about UFOs in Brazil, with public declarations of high rank military officials confirming they spotted, chased and were chased by UFOs for many hours.

The recordings, which were confidential in the Air Force for 30 years, show the dialogues between the tower in Sao Jose dos Campos, the towers of Sao Paulo and Brasilia and Air Defense. The official Air Force report found that the objects were real and had an "intelligent behavior."

Its all in portuguese but here is the link anyways:http://www.vigilia.com.br/brasilia-boa-noite-bem-vindo-ao-festival-dos-discos-voadores/


Just stories huh? To some of those pilots Im sure its THE story of their lifes.

[Irene]

Zorgon,

Didn't see your post of the 24th/25th right away.

Thanks for the explanation. Very interesting!   

[ArMaP]

An official military document from a foreign country is enough confirmation?

The problem with all those documents is that they fail to point to a known source of the UFOs, so we are still left without knowing if they are from terrestrial, extraterrestrial, extradimensional, etc.

[RUSSO]

The problem with all those documents is that they fail to point to a known source of the UFOs, so we are still left without knowing if they are from terrestrial, extraterrestrial, extradimensional, etc.

According to Uyrange Hollanda they watched, amazed, the presence of gigantic aircraft with all certainty, not-terrestrial executing incredible maneuvers to its front, as it was itself a show of particular exhibition. Two agents of the National Service of Information (SNI- Sistema Nacional de Informação) witnessed most magnificent of these  "demonstrations" with giant objects being involved.

Add to that the draws he made of the beings (he actually got an implant in one of his arms which accompanied him until his death)



I have no doubts about what happened in Colares in 1977, I was lucky enough to be able to hear the story from his own mouth.(there are four VHS footage of the crafts that Air force command confiscated from him. Two he paid from his own pocket and he never could get it back. If only we could get those tapes... )