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ExoMars mission: Suspected failure of probe

Started by Pimander, October 19, 2016, 06:04:27 PM

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RUSSO

Quote from: zorgon on October 21, 2016, 03:32:37 AM

Considering that we should have all this Alien Technolgy since Roswell you would thing SOMEONE would have a good spaceship by now, huh?

How can you be so sure there isn't? :P
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

RUSSO

Quote from: ArMaP on October 21, 2016, 01:21:40 PM
That was a failure of the marine launching the drone, the second attempt worked. :)

PS: that navy base is some 2 km from my home. :)

They should have practiced a bit more before call the press. That was the bigger fail imo.

Can you see the ocean from your house? That is my goal after my retirement. :)
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

zorgon

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Quote from: RUSSO on October 21, 2016, 07:23:34 PM
How can you be so sure there isn't? :P

Because...
1) none of my sources in Space Command are flying them :P They are still working with rockets at Vanedenburg etc.

2) IF the military has a superior power source or propulsin system, they would damn well be using it NOW. It has historically ALWAYS been the military that used new secret technolgy first. Even the common security system motion detectors were top secret military years before relesed to the public use.  There is NO WAY the military would NOT use any new power source and continue seeking jet fuel from seawater and there is no way they wouldn't use any new spacecraft teck rather than mess around with invisible space planes

3) With all the tons of data being leaked or stolen from the NSA and other agencies, with all the supposed Wikileak mail stuff... not ONE SINGLE piece of evidence supporting free energy or alien spacecraft  :P  NOT ONE

(The podesta emails are a joke really... If HE in his position, cannot get the answers... then maybe the answers do not exist

If people like Bob Lazar and A51 can go film 'secret' tests at A51 and people like IgnoreTheFacts can work on 'painting' invisible coatings onto non existing space planes and LSWONE peek over a wall and not go to prison :P  Then I can assume that there is really nothing beyound secret airplanes to worry about :P

Prove me wrong :P

zorgon

Quote from: RUSSO on October 21, 2016, 07:23:49 PM
They should have practiced a bit more before call the press. That was the bigger fail imo.

That is a NASA specialty :P Make a major announcement that you are on the verge of a major life changing announcement, then wait weeks to make the actual announcement  and watch it turn out to be "Much to do about NOTHING" :P

ArMaP

Quote from: RUSSO on October 21, 2016, 07:23:49 PM
Can you see the ocean from your house? That is my goal after my retirement. :)
No, I'm some 10 km from the ocean. Before they have built some buildings behind the building where I live I could see a part of the Tagus (Tejo in Portuguese) river.

RUSSO

Quote from: zorgon on October 21, 2016, 08:27:41 PM
That is a NASA specialty :P Make a major announcement that you are on the verge of a major life changing announcement, then wait weeks to make the actual announcement  and watch it turn out to be "Much to do about NOTHING" :P

Water found again, and again and again ;D
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

RUSSO

Quote from: zorgon on October 21, 2016, 08:26:04 PM
Because...
1) none of my sources in Space Command are flying them :P
:D :P

Quote2) IF the military has a superior power source or propulsin system, they would damn well be using it NOW. It has historically ALWAYS been the military that used new secret technolgy first. Even the common security system motion detectors were top secret military years before relesed to the public use.  There is NO WAY the military would NOT use any new power source and continue seeking jet fuel from seawater and there is no way they wouldn't use any new spacecraft teck rather than mess around with invisible space planes

Just because you dont see it it does not mean it does not exist ;) Why would they ruin the surprise effect advantage they have?

Quote3) With all the tons of data being leaked or stolen from the NSA and other agencies, with all the supposed Wikileak mail stuff... not ONE SINGLE piece of evidence supporting free energy or alien spacecraft  :P  NOT ONE

Again, i qill quote my other post...

You should expect it would be the most protected info on the planet. Not so easy to leak. You probably can't even find the smoking gun documents in government archives anymore.

Quote(The podesta emails are a joke really... If HE in his position, cannot get the answers... then maybe the answers do not exist

How many times I heard from you that people like him has a "no need to know" position. Not even the POTUS have it according to you!

Interisting story:

Donald Rumsfeld and the "Need to Know"

QuoteHe actually knew Rumsfeld. He said that they chatted about this and that in Rumsfeld's office and then he said. "I turned to him and I said, Don I have to ask you something. I have been in this for years looking at the UFO phenomena. I feel like at this point in my life I am in a position of "need to know" what you know or what some agency might know that I don't know. I have a 'need to know' I feel."

He said that Rumsfeld stood up and pointed a finger at him and said, "You have no 'need to know' and then sat down again. That was the end of it.
http://www.presidentialufo.com/gerald-ford/90-donald-rumsfeld-and-the-qneed-to-knowq

QuoteIf people like Bob Lazar and A51 can go film 'secret' tests at A51 and people like IgnoreTheFacts can work on 'painting' invisible coatings onto non existing space planes and LSWONE peek over a wall and not go to prison :P  Then I can assume that there is really nothing beyound secret airplanes to worry about :P

Prove me wrong :P

Plausible deniability!  :P

A parallel for you:

QuoteTraining files of the CIA's covert "Operation PBSUCCESS," for the 1954 coup in Guatemala. According to the National Security Archive: "Among the documents found in the training files of Operation PBSUCCESS and declassified by the Agency is a CIA document titled 'A Study of Assassination.' A how-to guide book in the art of political killing, the 19-page manual offers detailed descriptions of the procedures, instruments, and implementation of assassination." The manual states that to provide plausible denial, "no assassination instructions should ever be written or recorded."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability
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"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."